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POLLING THE SWIFTVETS AD
The Corner blog posting (NationalReview.com) ^ | August 11 2004 | Katherine Lopez (KJL)

Posted on 08/11/2004 11:16:47 AM PDT by plushaye

August 11, 2004

Release of: Fabrizio, McLaughlin & Associates 703-684-4510

“Swift Boat “controversy” gets Voters’ attention and nicks Kerry”

ALEXANDRIA, VA – Fabrizio, McLaughlin & Associates (FMA), a Republican polling and strategic consulting firm based in Alexandria, VA, has just completed their second likely voter survey with interviews conducted ONLY in the 19 battleground states. The battleground states are defined as those in which the Bush and Kerry campaigns have been focusing their paid media efforts throughout the campaign.

Nearly 6 in 10 likely voters claim that they that they recently saw, read or heard something about the TV ad “Swift Boat Veterans for Truth” released and began airing in several key battleground states questioning the truthfulness of Senator Kerry’s Vietnam War record. Among those who claimed to have seen, read or heard something about the ad, a majority overall and among undecided voters said it would not impact their vote either way. However to the extent it did impact voting intentions, it was a negative for Sen. Kerry by as much as nearly a 3 to 1 margin.

“Make no mistake -- controversy surrounding potential “dirty laundry” still sells in American politics and this is a sterling example of it. But most surprising is that despite Sen. McCain’s swift and very public repudiation of this ad and the lingering questions on the veracity of the charges, it still ends up being a net negative for Kerry – especially among crucial undecided voters. In a close race where every little bit counts, Kerry can’t afford to sustain too many minor hits like this.” said Tony Fabrizio, who served as chief pollster for Bob Dole’s ’96 Presidential campaign.

“Recently, have you seen, read or heard anything about a TV ad being aired by a group of Vietnam Veterans who question the truthfulness of Sen. John Kerry’s Vietnam War record?”

Overall 2 Way Undecided 3 Way Undecided Yes 57.6% 48.5% 38.3% No 35.4 42.1 45.1 DK/Refused 7.0 9.4 16.6

ASKED ONLY OF THOSE AWARE: “And did what you saw, read or heard make you MORE likely or LESS likely to vote for John Kerry for President? If it didn’t impact how you would vote, just say so.”

Overall 2 Way Undecided 3 Way Undecided More Likely 19.4% 10.9% 9.5% No Impact 50.8 51.1 56.2 Less Likely 27.1 29.9 24.1 DK/Refused 2.7 8.0 10.3 Net +/- -7.7% -19.0% -14.6%

About the Poll

The telephone survey was conducted in the 19 battleground states in which the Bush and Kerry campaigns have focused their paid media efforts to this point. The sample of 1,000 likely Presidential voters was conducted on August 8-9, 2004 and has a margin of error of +/-3.1% at the 95% confidence interval. Respondent selection was at random within predetermined geographic units to reflect actual electoral vote allotment to each state. The battleground states used for the survey were AR, AZ, CO, FL, IA, LA, ME, MI, MN, MO, NH, NM, NV, OH, OR, PA, WA, WI, WV.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; elections; polls; swiftboats; swiftboatveterans; swiftvets
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First idea of how the Swift Boat Vets ads are being received by the general public. Keep in mind, though, this polling agency has some Republican bias, but interesting and encouraging results anyway.
1 posted on 08/11/2004 11:16:48 AM PDT by plushaye
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No wonder they want to kill it. Dont believe the hype that the backlash will hurt Bush. The swiftvets are credible and kerry is not


2 posted on 08/11/2004 11:18:41 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: plushaye
despite Sen. McCain’s swift and very public repudiation of this ad and the lingering questions on the veracity of the charges, it still ends up being a net negative for Kerry

Who do they think McCain is? I never thought he had that much pull with the American public.

3 posted on 08/11/2004 11:20:12 AM PDT by gilliam
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To: plushaye

The ad is getting heard and it is having impact. So far the SBVT have been more effective than anything the Bush campaign has tried.


4 posted on 08/11/2004 11:23:29 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: plushaye

I don't think a vague knowledge of the ad has the same impact of actually seeing it. The Swifties need to get the ad itself to voters. (And yes, I have sent a contribution)


5 posted on 08/11/2004 11:24:40 AM PDT by Spok
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To: gilliam
Who do they think McCain is? I never thought he had that much pull with the American public.

I guess they see McCain has having some pull with swing voters, which may be true.

6 posted on 08/11/2004 11:25:23 AM PDT by Always Right
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"despite Sen. McCain’s swift and very public repudiation "

I never could understand McCain.

He's a man who fought and suffered in a camp in Vietnam for his country. And yet, his views are closer to his captives than to his countries.

McCain/Feingold is more of a 'socialist' policy than a 'republic(an)' one.

Maybe there is something to be said for 'brainwashing' that quite possibly it's effects are never truely reversed.

(Torture by the Vietcong definately is brainwashing, even if you are determined that it won't be. It can't help but change your attitude.)

I still admire McCain for his service and surviving his trauma though.




7 posted on 08/11/2004 11:25:37 AM PDT by Bigh4u2
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With these kind of numbers, expect the Kerry campaign to go nuclear real soon. The attacks against the SBVT will be stepped up, big time.


8 posted on 08/11/2004 11:27:09 AM PDT by Always Right
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>>despite Sen. McCain’s swift and very public repudiation of this ad and the lingering questions on the veracity of the charges, it still ends up being a net negative for Kerry <<

Maybe because the democrats are really, really, really, overrating what conservatives think about "John McCain-Feigold" and his opinion on anything!


9 posted on 08/11/2004 11:27:23 AM PDT by hushpad
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"However to the extent it did impact voting intentions, it was a negative for Sen. Kerry by as much as nearly a 3 to 1 margin"

Those are the ones that it is going to matter the most. If it didn't change anybody elses mind, it probably wouldn't have anyway.
10 posted on 08/11/2004 11:33:41 AM PDT by Txslady
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"I still admire McCain for his service and surviving his trauma though.'

why? There are 50,000 who died for their country in Vietnam. McCain’s one of the lucky ones who made it back.
11 posted on 08/11/2004 11:34:46 AM PDT by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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All campaigns are dirty. This high road stuff is BS nonsense. You have to point out the faults and shortcomings of an opponent. People will gripe and complain about it sure. They will say we must talk about the "issues" from atop their high horse. But in the end, its politics as usual. Since when is exposing the facts about an opponent dirty anyways? The Swift Vets are bringing FACTS to light.


12 posted on 08/11/2004 11:37:12 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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Because the SwiftVets are telling the truth that Kerry is a phony, Bush does "feel good" ads.

Negative ads work, and we should use them to unmask the essence of JFK.


13 posted on 08/11/2004 11:37:23 AM PDT by tomahawk
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To: Txslady

That means I am going to have to dig down into my pocket and send them another contribution.


14 posted on 08/11/2004 11:38:56 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: plushaye
it still ends up being a net negative for Kerry – especially among crucial undecided voters. In a close race where every little bit counts

Bottom line, MOST of the people who said it might change their mind said it reflects poorly on Kerry.

If this race is as close as the pollsters say, Even a 2% switch of undecideds ruins Kerry's chances.

15 posted on 08/11/2004 11:38:57 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Negative ads work, and we should use them to unmask the essence of JFK.

Absolutely. The majority of Kerry's base are those who hate Bush for one reason or another, not who actually like Kerry.

16 posted on 08/11/2004 11:41:07 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: plushaye

What is nice is that the "Christmas in Cambodia" issue does not depend on the Swifties, and hasn't really begun to play. There is no one for Kerry to smear, save perhaps for whomever transcribes the Congressional Record.


17 posted on 08/11/2004 11:41:35 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Txslady

I hope someone steps up so the SBVs can double the buy.


18 posted on 08/11/2004 11:42:34 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: Always Right

The other reason why the RATS are panicked is that these ads give traction and credibility for what is coming next: his anti-war activities; and the assault on his liberal record from the Bush campaign.


19 posted on 08/11/2004 11:43:40 AM PDT by mwl1
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It almost doesn't matter how the Swift Boat Veterans' ad "polls."

Even if people polled were to claim they were "disgusted" by the ad (expect to see some Dim polls proclaiming this very thing --soon), that wouldn't mean the ad wasn't having its desired effect.

People claim all the time to pollsters that they hate negative ads. Yet those very negative ads, generally, have very positive impact.

20 posted on 08/11/2004 11:47:23 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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