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China Rapidly Modernizes for War With U.S.
NewsMax ^ | Aug. 10, 2004 | Alexandr Nemets

Posted on 08/11/2004 9:11:47 AM PDT by JOAT

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1 posted on 08/11/2004 9:11:56 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: Jeff Head

ping


2 posted on 08/11/2004 9:13:12 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: JOAT

We can thank the Klintoon Administration for allowing the sale of teh "5-axis" milling machine necessary for the manufacture of advanced aerospace body designs. It was on the Pentagon and State Dept's DO NOT EXPORT list but what the hell, what's National Security to Bubba in comparison to "donations".


3 posted on 08/11/2004 9:14:30 AM PDT by gunnygail (John F Kerry sure can "parlez vous a HUMMA HUMMA!")
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To: gunnygail
Clinton-the-Impeached Traitor also gave all
US Patent pending applications with the weapons technology
to the Chinese.
Not bad for a few shekels of silver to the DNC
4 posted on 08/11/2004 9:20:47 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: JOAT

Any questions as to why we need an anti-ballistic missile system?


5 posted on 08/11/2004 9:21:02 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: JOAT

They fail to realize that their country will be vaporized by the Trident submarine force if they do a first strike scenerio .


6 posted on 08/11/2004 9:21:15 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: JOAT
The Rising Sea Dragon in Asia

Shades of :


THE DRAGON'S FURY SERIES

A techno-thriller series about America and Modern World War

7 posted on 08/11/2004 9:24:19 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Quix

Seen this?


8 posted on 08/11/2004 9:26:20 AM PDT by opus86
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To: JOAT
Is the USA really serious about protecting Taiwan? Everything sounds good on paper ... until Tsum Chai Neese decides to call our bluff. Are we really willing to risk one soldier - or nuclear war - to defend an island 8000 miles away? More relevantly, is the President (Bush? Kerry? Hillary?) willing to?

Just asking ... and not liking the likely answer.

9 posted on 08/11/2004 9:33:07 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: opus86

Sobering.

Thanks.


10 posted on 08/11/2004 9:38:09 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: JOAT

A BIG thank you to that worthless NIXON


11 posted on 08/11/2004 9:46:45 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: ctdonath2
I think we already know the answer.

We will NOT protect Taiwan from Chinese aggression if they do not attack a carrier group first.

That being said, I think it is safe to assume we will use naval power as a show of force leading up to any invasion, and China may 'sunburn' a carrier group. That would certainly alter our stance and force us into war with China.

Thanks to Bubba and the current wave of 'outsourcing,' the Chinese have advanced so rapidly that they will be a problem, if not now, then within 5 years certainly.

12 posted on 08/11/2004 9:47:50 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: JOAT

Irresponsible speculation of a very low order. Not quite in the tin-foil category, but close.


13 posted on 08/11/2004 9:48:48 AM PDT by beckett
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To: uncbob
A BIG thank you to that worthless NIXON

Nixon helped the cause of globalism tremendously. He took us off a real standard for our currency and started the process of bringing China out of its insulated, isolationist stance. Not to mention creating a crisis that degraded the office of the presidency.

14 posted on 08/11/2004 9:52:30 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: ctdonath2
I believe that war over Taiwan is inevitable.

Should the US allow a democratic country such as Taiwan to be taken over? No, IMHO.

China would then have control over the 9th largest economy in the world (not including Hong Kong), China would have control over 90% of the Pacific trade rim, China would therefore be in a position to take over Japan and Guam.

We know a battle is coming, we need to face up to these people and let them know that we will deal with what we have to.

Let us not forget that Communism cannot exist side-by-side with democracy. The goal of communism is world domination. China will be in position to take control of literally over half the world if they take back Taiwan.

We should not betray the trust that the Taiwanese have in us.

Agree? Disagree?
15 posted on 08/11/2004 9:57:00 AM PDT by baltodog (There are three kinds of people: Those who can count, and those who can't.)
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To: JOAT

Its alot like the lead up to WWII...we gave so much away to the Japs just to have it come back and bite us in the end. Some folks are slow learners.


16 posted on 08/11/2004 10:00:37 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: gunnygail
Yes...this is the big ticket for China and Russia

Both are in need of tooling up....I imagine details of contracts with Euro machinery/computer software etc will show up on the net..a hint to what degree they are putting funds to this.

Still...In Russias case..they make way more easy U.S. Dollars on the oil/gas thingy.
The need to do weapons sales is not a competition track..unless Putin really has some dark side..and is hoodwinking U.S. intel.
China may go the foreign weapons sale route.....several reasons for this in the insecure circles of the Court of Heaven in Bejing.

Russia continues to run its heavy lift Rocket/Satillite program...lots of tech perks as they continue to have a good reliable launch schedule.

China is said to be using Russian Space facilities in *Star City for EVA training and other Astronaut[Taikonaut] training.

Clearly both nations can sell weapons if they desire..several possible candidate nations...one being Saudi Arabia who is rumored to be parting company with the U.S...and may from a stronger Geostrategic projection with China.

17 posted on 08/11/2004 10:03:05 AM PDT by Light Speed
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To: JOAT

This is my battle plan for the invasion of Taiwan. The war with China will be fought everywhere but the Straits of Formosa.

The weapons of choice will be bags of money under the table, liberal use of PR firms, lawyers and lobbyists and political pressure groups. Strategic targeting and coopting of think tanks. In this way they can prepare the ground politically in Washington, New York and Brussels so that, when they move on Taiwan, there will be key people in key positions who will deliver impassioned speaches decrying the loss of Taiwan, followed by senate investigations to determine who to blame for it, but no US forces will enter the fray.

The second step is to encourage investment in the Chinese economy. Someone who has a billion dollar investment on the Chinese mainland isn't going to risk it by supporting Taiwanese independence, and this includes Taiwanese industrialists just as surely as it includes Americans and EU bankers.

The third step will be to support anti-US forces in the Americas so as to restrict US freedom of action in our own region, and preferably to tie us down in a guerrilla action here. This combined with anti-US muslim insurgencies will split our force and make any effective help to Taiwan difficult, even if we want to. More importantly though it would give effective political cover to excuse whoever happens to be in the White House when it happens. The present occupation of Iraq, which requires the lion's share of our force, would be the perfect situation from China's point of view, we couldn't do much to help Taiwan and no one would blame the president for not helping.

Obviously, a president who insists on UN approval before launching military action would be even better for Chinese purposes, as by the time a Chinese veto was overridden on the Security Council, the war would be over.

Fourthly, China needs to make sure that her neighbors are sufficiently intimidated that they would deny us basing for any anti-China military action. That won't be hard.

And lastly, they need to modernize their force, while denying Taiwan access to modern weaponry. If they can defeat Taiwan quickly, their previous political preparations will keep Taiwan's allies from getting involved, if it doesn't drag on for a long time.

But Iraq should have taught them a great deal about the power of money and preferential contracts to undermine alliances and international institutions. No one will risk billion dollar contracts, or the loss of billions of dollars of industrial assets, and pass up a twenty million dollar deposit to a personal bank account, just to risk political suicide and military defeat in a war with China.


18 posted on 08/11/2004 10:14:46 AM PDT by marron
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Why is Red China so hot to trot to recapture Taiwan? Because they are an economic powerhouse? How has Hong Kong done under Red Rule?


19 posted on 08/11/2004 10:30:11 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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Taiwan is not worth millions of lives. To hell with Taiwan. That's like spending $10,000 to collect 1 Cent.

We waited too damn long to do anything. Hell, way back when we should have let Gen. Patton hit Russia like he wanted and our position today would have been much better with China.

Also, if we used an ICBM with China that would be the begining of the end.


20 posted on 08/11/2004 10:36:09 AM PDT by SQUID
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