[Sabertooth]

Earlier this month, a group of conservative Republicans said it would push a ballot measure to bring back some of those limits in a fashion the courts could uphold, and to block lawmakers from granting licenses to undocumented drivers.

Schwarzenegger said Tuesday that while he had not studied the plan, it did not sound like something he would want to support.

"We should find ways to work together rather than to find ways of going the other way," he said.

At the same time, the governor said he will continue to insist that any driver's license state lawmakers vote to extend to undocumented workers be different from licenses issued to citizens - in part because of concerns that the state cannot trust the legitimacy of Mexican identification cards that would be used to verify applicants' identities.

And yet people still doubt that Arnold supports CDLs for Illegals.

[Southack]

"At the same time, the governor said he will continue to insist that any driver's license state lawmakers vote to extend to undocumented workers be different from licenses issued to citizens - in part because of concerns that the state cannot trust the legitimacy of Mexican identification cards that would be used to verify applicants' identities."

Arnold has already won this fight by shaping the terms of the debate *after* killing the real California Driver's licenses for Illegals that was law under Gray Davis.

Contrary to what La Raza wants, Arnold now has California legislators focused on creating a *different* driver's license for illegals.

Now we can hoot an holler about what nonsense it is to create a legal document for illegals, but that misses the point.

La Raza doesn't want driver's licenses. That's not what this is about. La Raza wants illegals to have the same documentation as legal residents so that illegals can't be differentiated from legals. Heck, Mexican driver's licenses are *already* valid in California...illegals have no "driving need" for a new California license. What they want, however, is a convenient document that opens all of the doors for illegals that are currently open to legal residents, and the California Driver's License is merely an excuse for getting that document.

But Arnold has used their own words against them. After repealing their valid driver's licenses for illegals, he's now got the Legislature talking about a new, *different* kind of driving license.

With that new license, illegals will gain nothing. Worse, for La Raza at least, illegals would have to *register* with the state government to obtain this redundant driver's license (remember, their Mexican driver's license is already valid, so a new California license is redundant). But after registering with the state for this new license, it will still be possible to differentiate between legals and illegals.

Illegals will have Arnold's new, *different* driver's license (which will function no differently than their current Mexican Driver's License). Legal residents, on the other hand, will still have California's traditional driver's license.

This is political jujitsu at its finest. California Dems get to pass a driver's license law for illegals, yet the new document is worth no more to illegals than their old Mexican license.

What we *don't* want is for California to reinstate Gray Davis' real driver's license for illegals law. That law was giving illegal aliens the *same* driver's license that every legal resident in California possesses. That's unacceptable.

A *different* driver's license, however, is not only acceptable, it is a thing of beauty. Illegals have to register with the government to get it, have to show proof of insurance to get it, have to pay taxes to get it, and it gives them *nothing* more than they already get with their Mexican driver's licenses.

Same California license for illegals = Bad.
Different California license for illegals = Brilliant.

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

[Tamzee]

A year later and you McClintock supporters are still trying to ping folks into flamewars?

Our beef was that Davis' giving illegals regular DL's would give them cover to vote in our elections. The left had pushed hard not to have the DL's indicate in any fashion that the bearer was not legally a U.S. and California citizen.

Not only would Schwarzenegger's limits prevent this from happening, but illegals would be forced to register and identify themselves to authorities. Works for me...

[broadsword]

Well, my friends, this is what happens when folks elect a RINO on good looks and fame... just because HE CAN WIN!

In the end, WE ALL LOSE!