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To: NYer

I can never quite figure out why couples feel the need to have "their own" baby in circumstances like the Epolites when there are so many children in need of adoption.


5 posted on 08/11/2004 6:47:33 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: freeangel

May God help you all. What a sad state of affairs and misrepresentation of the IVF process. I'm currently in my home office, with the product of two successful IVF procedures stomping around outside with our adopted daughter. My wife is a successful software consultant who left work to stay home with the kids. She had health issues in traditional conception that prevented us from conceiving without IVF.

The point the Catholic church and the rest of you miss is that the process of eggs not implanting is natural and occurs in every woman engaged in conjugal conception. We did not do a "reduction", nor did we freeze any eggs. All eggs were implanted in each case. The actual success rate for IVF in these circumstances is much higher than the article states. I'm pro-life, but my wife left the Catholic church over this issue.

Now, those who oppose IVF and cherish life so dearly, what would you have me do with my children?


14 posted on 08/11/2004 6:55:35 AM PDT by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: freeangel

Such a statement begs the question, how many adopted children do you have?


15 posted on 08/11/2004 6:58:19 AM PDT by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: freeangel
I can never quite figure out why couples feel the need to have "their own" baby in circumstances like the Epolites when there are so many children in need of adoption.

Domestically, undoubtedly due in part to the prevalence of abortion, there are an average of 3.5 adoptive families for every adoptable child according to Census figures.

This is one of the reasons that my wife and I are adopting from Russia - theres thousands of children over there languishing in orphanages, because adoption is still not terribly socially accepted as I understand it.

184 posted on 08/12/2004 8:01:07 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: freeangel
I can never quite figure out why couples feel the need to have "their own" baby in circumstances like the Epolites when there are so many children in need of adoption.

Building a family is one of the most personal and emotional undertakings that a couple can undergo, and that is magnified when you're faced with infertility.

We wind up going through the five stages of grief, essentially grieving the loss of the blood descendants we'll never have. It's not quite the same thing as losing a child you already had, but it's a very difficult and painful thing to accept even so. We still had dreams and hopes for the future of our biological children, even if they don't exist yet.

The couple in this article spent $25,000 and two years in Stage 1 - Denial. It's certainly a blessing that they were ultimately able to concieve, but my wife and I had to work through the rest of the stages of grieving when we got through Stage 1 and decided that fertility treatments and the risks to her health were obstacles we no longer wanted to try to overcome. We've been married for 11 years now.

185 posted on 08/12/2004 8:35:51 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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