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To: Mr. Silverback

My problem is you're wasting money and effort on a lost cause.

There's a presidential election and about a dozen other senate races that could either be won or lost by the Republican candidate. That's where I am putting my money/effort.

Tom Coburn of OK is a good strong conservative man who can actually WIN his senate race.


19 posted on 08/10/2004 1:03:17 PM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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To: ambrose

Fine, we're talking about Illinois, and we need to work with Alan Keyes here and build the base. If we do, we just might win. Don't rain on our parade, thanks.


20 posted on 08/10/2004 1:06:38 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: ambrose
Tom Coburn of OK is a good strong conservative man who can actually WIN his senate race.

No offense, but you're not even thinking two-dimensionally, much less three dimensionally.

Obama is a rock star at this point in time. If the GOP had put up some twit, he would have spent most of his time campaigning for Dems in tight races all over the country, helping them and firming up his own presidential ambitions. Now he has to stay in Illinois and fight, but ONLY if Keyes has some money.

If we force the Dems to spend money here, it helps the rest of you, and if we just concede this seat to a socialist, we're wimps. You don't have to help us, but at least quit whining about Illinois conservatives wanting to stand for limited govt, American sovereignty and the right to life. We're fighting!

27 posted on 08/10/2004 1:18:18 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Don't miss your chance to be a goon: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: ambrose; unspun
>> Tom Coburn of OK is a good strong conservative man who can actually WIN his senate race.

Ambrose,

I’m sure Alan Keyes is considered an unelectable extremist nutjob by the RINO infested California “Republican” voters (what did he get there, like 3% of your primary vote?) Of course, just about anyone to the right of Governor Red Doofus is considered an far right-wing NAZI in California.

Over here in Illinois where we pick actual REPUBLICANS in our primaries, Keyes’ platform is more in line with another “unelectable” conservative:


U.S. Senator Peter G. Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Elected: 11/03/98
Party: Republican

According to Project Vote Smart:

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League 0% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the National Right to Life Committee, 100% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of Americans for Tax Reform, 95% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the National Tax Limitation Committee, 94% of the time

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the Concord Coalition, 96% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of National Federation of Independent Business, 100% of the time

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the American Civil Liberties Union, 0% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the Americans for the Arts 0% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the Eagle Forum 87% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the Christian Coalition 100% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the American Conservative Union 91% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the Republican Liberty Caucus 77% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the Center for Reclaiming America 100% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the National Education Association 0% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the Sierra Club 20% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the Family Research Council 100% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of Citizens for Global Solutions 6% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the American Security Council 75% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of Council for a Livable World 0% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of PeacePac 0% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the Council for Government Reform 77% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the American Immigration Lawyers Association 0% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the AFL-CIO 0% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of Americans for Democratic Action 5% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of the CATO Trade Policy 93% of the time.

Fitzgerald voted the preferred position of The American Legion 100% of the time.

According to the National Journal - Conservative on Foreign Policy's calculations, in 2001, Senator Fitzgerald voted more conservative on foreign policy issues than 72% of the Senators.

According to the National Journal - Composite Conservative Score's calculations, in 2002, Senator Fitzgerald voted more conservative on defense issues than 68% of the Senators.

According to the National Journal - Conservative on Social Policy's calculations, in 2002, Senator Fitzgerald voted more conservative on social policy issues than 62% of the Senators.

65 posted on 08/10/2004 3:19:57 PM PDT by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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