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by ExSoldier Invaluable Tips:
This is just the first step to being secure. IMHO.
518 posted on 08/03/2004 5:47:15 PM CDT

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WARNING:

I do not advocate folks get firearms training from any other than a certified instructor (like me) or from a book, neither would I feel real great about having somebody try something I described on the thread and
getting killed for their effort. I know exactly what to do if I'm grabbed from behind, but the response is inculcated to the point of instinctual reaction and difficult to "explain." Therefore we need to keep it so simple, it can be done in "one move." But before we get to "moves" we
have to start with :

"ATTITUDE!"

Be aware -

See life as a series of threat levels - think of them like a stoplight: Green, Yellow, Red.
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A. Green means "GO" and 99% of the population (except FREEPERS!) is stuck in this mode. They go through life with their eyes down, thinking of everything but their own safety. They wonder what's on tv; who phoned while they were out; what's for dinner; does he or she really love me;
etc. Everything but what matters.

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B. Yellow means "caution." You must be aware of your surroundings in a 360 degree perimeter for about a forty foot radius. You should be "aware" of every moving object and living thing in that area. How do you keep track of what's behind you?

If you're walking down a sidewalk and a car passes near you on the road, you can tell by the sound of it's tires how fast it's moving and the wind pressure against your body.

You can hear when it slows down by the engine noise and brakes.

If you approach your car in a parking lot, be sure to not only check the back seat, but also under the car before you even get close.

Moving perimeter____

You are aware of things and allow your little onboard "voice" that everyone has and never listens to....to let you know something is strange.

What about the guy who looks drunk and is stumbling towards you? Is he only faking being drunk, are his feet moving in a coordinated fashion but his body seems to sway and stumble?

Can you see his hands? Look around. Do you see anybody reacting to your specific presence, for example some guy crosses the street to your side for no apparent reason? Let's say you glance across the street and become aware that another man seems to be moving in concert with the first.

Now what?

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Insert a color here to the Traffic light model----ORANGE ALERT--

is a heightened alert specific to a given situation. It means you are aware of a specific threat to your person. You must assess and then decide how to act and whether to raise an alrm as it were, or disengage and get the heck out of there or finally (and only if you're qualified to
do so) to engage. The key is assessment!

ASSESS, ASSESS, ASSESS!

Look for a weapon or the possibility of a weapon.

Look for backup buddies out to the wings or in a vehicle.

Assess!

Then...DECIDE. From the second of actual decision, you must instantly do one of two things:

ENGAGE or DISENGAGE.

I always recommend to disengage! Unless you're judicial meanz. Or somebody trained and experienced in this kind of action.
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CONDITION RED. This is quite simply, COMBAT. Slapping leather going for the draw, whatever.

IMPORTANT NOTE:

Condition green invites victimization.

Condition Orange can't be maintained for very long, you'll tire quickly.

But Condition YELLOW can be maintained forever without effort. You can live, eat and sleep in Yellow. It's very easy to take somebody in condition green. It's might well be impossible to take anybody in "yellow."

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FOOTNOTES:

When grabbed from behind: "Pinch" the skin on the inner part of the thigh (pant material is thinner here) and just twist the crap outta it!

You can try this on yourself and be aware of the sensation without maiming yourself in the process. The idea here is to make the person LET GO in a shock reaction. After that, you may have to follow up with some other strike or just haul A$$.
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One more important technique!

It only works at night or in some really dark area like a parking garage, but for folks especially living behind enemy lines in a gun oppressed area get a SureFire Flashlight of at least two lithium cells in strength. Their 6P model is a fine choice but if you can afford bigger by all means, as long as you can carry it well.

The beam of one of these lights is easily enough to temporarily blind/stun an attacker when he doesn't know it's coming. They are tail switch activated and some can be had with a bezel ring adjuster that is jagged and useful as a striking weapon. I'm never without mine, even when I'm armed. Maybe especially when I'm armed.

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* $20 in quarters in a sock to beat the snot outta criminal.

* Take a section of newspaper and roll it up like you were going to swat a fly. Then bend it double and hold it in your fist. It should allow your fingers to close all the way around it. Where the crease appears there will be a number of small points or knobs. That is the striking
surface. You'll find that the paper is now a sturdy club capable of literally splitting skulls.

* A variation or should I say an evolution of the Kubaton is called the Kerambit. It's an innocous looking little piece of plastic that looks like it's shaped into a broad "L" shape with a hole in one end. Use it
correctly and you can take anyone any size at anytime.


9 posted on 08/10/2004 1:24:37 AM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: Honestly; knak; Domestic Church; Don Joe; Labyrinthos; judicial meanz; All

FOR FEMALES by Honestly
546 posted on 08/03/2004 6:16:50 PM CDT

I learned in a YMCA self-defense for women class several years ago:

1) If grabbed from behind, take a deep breath and don't freeze up - this will surprise the attacker and he may loosen his grip.

2) If grabbed from behind, put your chin to your chest and throw your head back hard to either knock the wind out of him or smash his nose or throat depending on the height of you and the attacker. Use your elbows as weapons.

3) If face to face, knee to groin first. Then take the sole of your hand and smash their nose upwards and in as hard as you can. The instructor said this can actually kill someone. If keys aren't handy, two fingers in the eyes may help you get away.

4) If attacked from the side, kick the knee and run your shoe down their shin as hard as you can. Stomp as hard as you can on the top of their foot.

5) A purse can be a lethal weapon if swung really hard.

You've got one chance to get away, so give it all you've got.

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TIP by knak
556 posted on 08/03/2004 6:34:02 PM CDT

I posted a link at #481. Do a site search for Impact Kerambit. It's only $9. But I would recommend the video that you can also get. Maybe another $12.

My dad sent me a safety tips for women kind of article a while back and it says the elbow is the strongest bone in the body....use it!
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TIP by Domestic Church
638 posted on 08/03/2004 9:16:57 PM CDT

"What to do if approached from behind "

I was taught for starters to jab into the person with elbow(other hand over fist pushing back)followed by a kick straight back (with high heels of course) and then slam down on the instep. Do this as rapid and as forcefully as you can.
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TIP by Don Joe
813 posted on 08/04/2004 6:39:38 AM CDT

To drop someone, you want to kick the knee sideways, because it only takes about 12 lbs or so to tear the ligament that holds it all together.
(The front-back connections are very strong, but the sideways ligaments are apparently very weak, not designed to withstand much trouble.)
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TIP by Labyrinthos
311 posted on 08/03/2004 11:08:30 AM CDT

A sharp blow to the point of the nose with the palm of the hand also works well. There are nerve bundles between the shoulder joint and base of the neck, which if struck firmly will cause temporary paralysis.

There are also nerve bundles on the mound of the forearm just below the elbow that if struck firmly will temporarily immobilize the arm.

The top of the foot near the leg bone is also a painfull spot.

One of the best carry on weapons is a belt with a heavy metal buckle.

Always carry a sharp pen and a key ring so that the ring fits into your palm when you make a fist and the longest key sticks out between your index and middle finger.

The key is to focus and to size up your potential opponent before you have to act so that you have a plan of attack if the need arises.
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TIPS by by judicial meanz
439 posted on 08/03/2004 4:18:42 PM CDT
496 posted on 08/03/2004 5:32:34 PM CDT

1) Always carry a rat-tail comb, and keep it close at hand. Use it to gouge out an attackers eyes. Dont be squeamish-they wont be, and its better than being dead. The attacker cannot hurt you if they cannot see you.

2) Wind your keys in your fingers, and use them to hit the person in the face around the eyes. If they cant see you, they cant hurt you.

3) A kick to the groin is cliche. Most men expect it to come and shield for it instinctively. Kick for the knees instead, and aim the kick to knock the knee backwards for maximum injury effect. If they cant walk, they cant chase you and hurt you.

4) If you are grabbed from behind, reach down there and grab a handful of groin ( I wont name it, but you know what I am referring to). Twist that thing right off if you have to. Use maximum force and twist your hand while you pull. They cant rape if they cant use it.

5) Drive your heels into their shins as hard as you can while you do the "vending machine pull" on the groin. That will make them involuntarily throw up, hopefully.

6) If they are close enough to grab you, you have the upper hand because you can react before they act ( if you are prepared). If they are two arm lengths away, you do not have the advantage. Always draw them in close to hurt them, and act quickly.

* Use a tube sock and put either a bar of soap or something else with a little oomph into it. Then beat the snot out of the terrorist.

Criminals use this little trick all the time in jails te even scores.

Some of them end up in critical condition from sock/soap attacks.


10 posted on 08/10/2004 1:33:37 AM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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ping


20 posted on 08/10/2004 1:41:33 AM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: JustPiper
Thanks for the ping JP and I'm humbly honored you felt my tips worth including at the start of the new thread.
53 posted on 08/10/2004 4:25:55 AM PDT by ExSoldier (M1A: Any mission. Any conditions. Any foe. At any range.)
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To: JustPiper; HipShot; judicial meanz; All
One more thing before I have to go offline. Today is the first Teacher Planning day of four for the rest of this week. NEXT week the kids come back. So my summer is over and now it's back to the grind. This will necessitate that my time here on the thread will be severely limited compared to the summer. I'll try to keep up as well as I can. But I'm still here! So if you need my input please ping me and I'll get to it as soon as I can.
55 posted on 08/10/2004 4:43:09 AM PDT by ExSoldier (M1A: Any mission. Any conditions. Any foe. At any range.)
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