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Latest Kerry "Self-Proclaiming Hero" Problems! Swift Boat Rescue Story Springs Another Leak!
2 reporter friends in DC | MB26

Posted on 08/09/2004 9:12:32 AM PDT by MindBender26

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To: KellyAdmirer
One of the sailors lost his footing and fell off the boat. To his credit, Kerry turned around and came back and picked the guy up - apparently he isn't a complete coward - but there was another boat right there to pick up Rassman or whatever his name is if Kerry hadn't got him

He was an Army Special Forces officer, not a sailor, who was with a group of South Vietnames troops that the boats were ferrying.

61 posted on 08/09/2004 10:19:50 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Old Sarge

Thanks for the picture of Audie Murphy, the most decorated military during WW2. Who is that other creepy looking guy?


62 posted on 08/09/2004 10:21:18 AM PDT by jslade (People who are easily offended, OFFEND ME!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I'm thinking it maybe Rasputin but I think he died sometime earlier. Just Kidding. I really would like to know because usually front rows are reserved for advisers.


63 posted on 08/09/2004 10:21:31 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: tophat9000; blake6900
According to radio interviews with the Swifties, there WAS NO enemy fire at this time, nor later.

Only the single mine explosion. (So an person sitting on the deck eating C-rat's isn't too surprising.)

The other boats stayed to help - though they clearly expected an ambush after the mine.

Kerry's boat bugged out of the area.

His "injury" was from a rifle grenade "attack" that Kerry shot at an unarmed sampan earlier that day after he threw the civilians out of the sampan. (That grenade threw rice back at Kerry, which is why he got cuts in his bottom.)
64 posted on 08/09/2004 10:22:11 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly ... But Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS press corpse lies every day.)
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To: Paul Atreides
One of the sailors lost his footing and fell off the boat. To his credit, Kerry turned around and came back and picked the guy up - apparently he isn't a complete coward - but there was another boat right there to pick up Rassman or whatever his name is if Kerry hadn't got him

And you left out one the biggest, the next previous Dem resident at 1600 Pennsylvania, Lyndon Baines Johnson. Another guy who married well. Which brings thing nicely full circle, since it was LBJ that sent Kerry, and a few million others, to Vietnam. However LBJ's SECDEF, and much of the rest of his adminstration, was a left over JF Kennedy type, Robert Strange MacNamara, which of course also brings us to Kerry again because he was a protege of Ted Kennedy.

65 posted on 08/09/2004 10:24:50 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

"Mr. Rassman: answer the question! Were you, or were you not, eating a cooke at the time you fell overboard!"


66 posted on 08/09/2004 10:25:13 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

"Mr. Rassman: answer the question! Were you, or were you not, eating a cookie at the time you fell overboard!"


67 posted on 08/09/2004 10:25:30 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: adam_az
See?

Even Rassman's account indicates that Kerry was "pulling back" OUT OF THE FIRE FIGHT when he picked up Rassman. "Rassmann, a first lieutenant in the Army special forces, was eating a chocolate chip cookie on Kerry’s patrol boat as it pulled back from a fire fight when a nearby boat hit a mine.

What's controversial is how Kerry got his wound - During those few minutes right around the mine explosion, or when he blew up the civilian's sampan earlier....

68 posted on 08/09/2004 10:25:56 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly ... But Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS press corpse lies every day.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Very good.


69 posted on 08/09/2004 10:26:18 AM PDT by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: Cboldt

Kerry wrote an article for the Boston Herald on October 14, 1979:

"I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."


70 posted on 08/09/2004 10:27:28 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: All

Wouldn't it be funny if a false statement Kerry made about Nixon brought him down. In a perfect world the media would bring Kerry down for this. Of course the media doesn't care and isn't going to do anything about this.


71 posted on 08/09/2004 10:27:55 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's floats, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: MindBender26
"Nightline Daily E-Mail
August 9, 2004
TONIGHT'S FOCUS: Service in the Vietnam War, or lack of service, has become an issue in this election. John Kerry is running on his service record, the President is still dogged by questions about his service in the National Guard. Now there are veterans for Kerry, and veterans against him."

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72 posted on 08/09/2004 10:28:15 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Bob Novak On UNFIT FOR COMMAND.com)
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To: js1138
You are correct about the Senate speech, i.e., Kerry infers the Nixon connection. However, Kerry has linked Nixon directly to his being in Cambodia in his interviews with the Boston Globe for their multipart series on him last year. They were written by Kranish and Eason.

In a TV interview conducted by Greta Van Susteren earlier this year with Michael Kranish and Nina Eason of the Boston Globe, the following interchange occurred, which mentioned Kerry's oft stated contention that he spent XMAS Eve in Cambodia in 1968:

VAN SUSTEREN: Michael, did he cooperate at all with this or participate or sit down for interviews?

MICHAEL KRANISH, KERRY BIOGRAPHER: Well, sure. We did a series last year. It was a seven part series that ran 14 pages in the newspaper and he sat down for about ten hours of interviews for this series.

The book was written during the time when he was still running for the nomination right at the height of the Super Tuesday primaries and so forth, so our material for interviews was from the series.

To go back to your question you asked Nina, you know, he's also a skeptic of government. So, you ask why does he go, some people say flip- flop, other people would say why does he question things the way that he does?

A very short anecdote, he was in Vietnam and he was in Cambodia as part of a mission. I don't know if he intended to go but that's where he was but the government that was running the war knew that troops were in Cambodia but Nixon, President Nixon at the time was telling the American public, "We're not in Cambodia."

So, from a very early time, John Kerry is skeptical of government and he came back to protest the war that he participated in, so this is where some of this inner belief comes from. He does -- he did serve but he also questioned.

In a 1992 interview with John Diamond of the AP Kerry again makes the statement that he was sent to Cambodia. Here is an excerpt:

"But for Kerry, who spent six violent months commanding a patrol boat on the Mekong River, there's always been a ring of truth to allegations of abandoned Americans. By Christmas 1968, part of Kerry's patrol extended across the border of South Vietnam into Cambodia.

"We were told, `Just go up there and do your patrol. Everybody was over there (in Cambodia). Nobody thought twice about it," Kerry said. One of the missions, which Kerry, at the time, was ordered not to discuss, involved taking CIA operatives into Cambodia to search for enemy enclaves.

"I can remember wondering, `If you're going to go, what happens to you,"' Kerry said.

73 posted on 08/09/2004 10:28:22 AM PDT by kabar
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To: tobyhill

I wish I knew. I'm sure it's one of the war protest icons of the day. I can't recall who.


74 posted on 08/09/2004 10:30:01 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (They are where you least expect. Look around and you'll see them too.)
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To: MindBender26

I saw one Swift Boat Vet, I think his name was Van O'Dell, on Hannity. He seems to be more upset that Kerry proclaimed that HE ALONE went back to save fellow vets. Kerry has dissed all others there that day becasue he said they all ran away but he came back to help Rassman. O'Dell said that there were other boats that went back for other soldiers. O'Dell was on a boat that pulled a guy out of the water.


75 posted on 08/09/2004 10:30:07 AM PDT by Republican Red (Is that a classified document in your pants Sandy or are you just glad to see me?)
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To: tobyhill; Conspiracy Guy

That is Kerry's classmate and lifetime pal from Yale. He was in the DNC bio propaganda flick.


76 posted on 08/09/2004 10:31:25 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John lies!)
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To: El Gato

LBJ also got a phony Silver Star for riding as a passenger in a plane that never got into the combat area.


77 posted on 08/09/2004 10:31:29 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Paul Atreides
The problem isn't their picks....the problem is the sheeple elect them.

Everyone...of those guys ( sans Dean...) were elected by American's. Maybe some dead American's...but American's nevertheless.

78 posted on 08/09/2004 10:32:55 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Never shoot to kill. ALWAYS shoot to live..!!)
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To: El Gato; BushisTheMan
You folks are right to correct me on the details and I appreciate it, I don't want anyone claiming we are stacking the deck against Kerry in our comments. The absolute truth is bad enough.

As I said in another thread, John Kerry is to Ronald Reagan as Major Frank Burns is to General Patton.

79 posted on 08/09/2004 10:34:51 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Jaded

I felt his true story needed to get out there.


80 posted on 08/09/2004 10:35:18 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (They are where you least expect. Look around and you'll see them too.)
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