Posted on 08/07/2004 7:25:09 PM PDT by Steven W.
"I believe in my heart of hearts and in my gut that this president fails that test in Iraq. And I know this because I, personally, and others were deeply involved in the effort with other countries to bring them to the table. I met with the Security Council of the United Nations in the week preceding the vote in the Senate."
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
Meanwhile, back in Iowa, over the weekend, three likely 2004 Democratic presidential candidates aired their differences over President Bush's policy on Iraq.
Senators John Kerry and John Edwards, whom you saw here a little earlier, and Vermont Governor Howard Dean gave their views on the issue at a Democratic party fund raiser.
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John Kerry was very critical, Howard Dean was very critical
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John Kerry was very critical, also, but he never said he wouldn't vote against the resolution when it came up this week. I think if he does vote for the resolution, and as some people who were at the dinner say tonight, wondering where that came from. Because he indicated no reasons to support Bush. All he highlighted -- much like, to some extent, a variation on Edwards -- all he highlighted was his criticism of the president, not the possibility that he could end up supporting the use of force.
thanx...the 5th & 6th was a weekend, so those days are probably out.
Thanks!
Thank you for that one.
Congressman James Abourezk was also going to Iraq to meet with Tariq Aziz.
I don't remember Biden having made that particular comment, but, as quite often is the case, I miss what Matthews' guests have said because I'm too busy laughing out loud at Matthews and what he had just said.
I've said it umpteen times, meant it every time, and will say it again: Karl Rove is luckier than he will ever be good.
OK .. I think I found what I was thinking of and it looks like I'm off on the time frame
Dang .. I need a chart to keep up with this all
http://www.vote-smart.org/speech_detail.php?speech_id=32140&keyword=&phrase=&contain=
Speaker: Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. (DE)
Title: MSNBC Hardball - Transcript
Location: Unknown
Date: 03/16/2004
MATTHEWS: What is the carrot or the stick to bring the Security Council members in with us, so it's not just a U.S. force behind the new government over there?
BIDEN: They're ready-they're ready to come in now. I reported to the president back after the 1st of the year where the meeting of all sort of the arch good friend enemy, you know, everybody likes to make fun of, President Chirac.
Chirac told me personally and he subsequently told others he would support NATO in there, he would support even the possibility of U.S. forces in Iraq if in fact, if in fact not at the Security Council, but the permanent five at the Security Council actually were the ones that were in charge of the political decisions being made in Iraq after Bremer left.
We actually even went through this whole little dance, he and I.
MATTHEWS: Right.
BIDEN: About well if in fact Bremer left, we planned it now, etcetera. Not only him, but then I went to speak to the United-excuse me, to our NATO allies. And I spoke to the permanent representatives there, the five largest countries. They're ready to come in.
I have spoken to Kofi Annan. But they're not ready to come in, Chris, if they're going to look like they're the handmaiden of the United States of America.
MATTHEWS: Right.
BIDEN: And why isn't our interest to not have them in?
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: Well, there's a precedent, of course. After 1945, we had four men in a jeep regarding West Berlin and of course all of Germany-all of Germany was divided into four parts. Does the president openly reject this proposition, this new formula of a united effort by the Western powers to govern or to underwrite the new government of Iraq?
BIDEN: The answer is, I don't know, Chris.
I know there's this continual split-this is the most divided administration in the seven presidents with whom I'm served. The idea that you can't find a single person in the administration who is going to tell you who's in charge when Bremer leaves is a reflection that the president is at a minimum getting incredibly conflicting advice and he's yet to make up his mind.
"I personally, and others"
The "others" were the Clintons .. who just happened to have a European book tour at the time. It was during this tour that x42 told Blair that if Blair didn't dump Bush .. he was going to lose his job. Shortly after that the Wilson story broke.
It's past time folks to get these garbage people out of our government.
Yes it is .. and Kerry's done it before with the Govt of N. Korea.
bttt
Thought you might be interested....
WHO ARE OUR LEGAL EAGLES???
KERRY ON CNN: "I met with the Security Council of the United Nations in the week preceding the vote in the Senate."
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 45 > Sec. 953.
Sec. 953. - Private correspondence with foreign governments
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."
sorry....meant to ping you to my last post 114
Kerry and all his commie collusionists, are plottng to destroy America. Kerry is on an ego trip, thinking he is the savior of the world. (Delusions of Grandeur)Bush/Cheney 2004
That kind of says it all doesn't it ? Thanks....
Which country was he representing?
Thanks for the additional information!
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