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Says the Wuss: Ma, He’s Touching Me
special to FreeRepublic ^ | 13 August 2004 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 08/07/2004 8:16:33 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob

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To: Congressman Billybob
So what is the true etymology of wuss?

Good piece!

21 posted on 08/07/2004 8:52:12 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I'd like to pose a question here, although directed more towards Viet Nam swift vets, since you mentioned the 'not on the same boat' ploy used in the lawyer's letters.

Was testimony, descriptions, accounts of events, etc., from men on other boats ever used or taken into account during decisions to award medals?

If that were the case, the lawyer's ploy is absurd, and more so if that happened in the case of Kerry's medals.

longjack

22 posted on 08/07/2004 8:54:41 AM PDT by longjack
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To: Congressman Billybob

Bookmark for later read.


23 posted on 08/07/2004 9:05:36 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: NonValueAdded

That's a good point. In addition to GWB's reserve record, he MSM was quite willing to expend all sorts of time, money and effort to unseal Jack Ryan's supposedly private divorce records (in order to boost the campaign of their new darling Barack Obama, while allowing Kerry's to remain sealed. They will persue items relentlessly as long as it serves the greater cause. The MSM os more properly classified as propagandists, rather than journalists.


24 posted on 08/07/2004 9:06:16 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: sd-joe

Yes, but be clear that the Bush campaign has nothing to do with the Swiftboat ads.


25 posted on 08/07/2004 9:06:39 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Congressman Billybob

Another great post, Congressman. Thanks for giving us a clear overview of what is going on with the swift boat business.


26 posted on 08/07/2004 9:09:41 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: Congressman Billybob

John,

Another one hit "outta the park." Thanks again for your efforts. Be encouraged; we're out here reading and enjoying your work.

-R


27 posted on 08/07/2004 9:10:05 AM PDT by rpierce
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To: OKSooner

It is true that the Bush campaign had nothing to do with the Swiftees.

My point is that they are good at letting the other side go way too far, and not saying anything, and then in a couple of strikes cutting off the limb.

In this case the campaign does not even need to get involved. The truth will come out and Kerry is in trouble.


28 posted on 08/07/2004 9:15:25 AM PDT by sd-joe (Bush has power, while Kerry has only ambition)
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To: Zeppelin

Touche!


29 posted on 08/07/2004 9:20:24 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Zeppelin

"the whole 'lawsuit' bit could work in our favor. if the Johns get elected, VP Edwards could file a lawsuit against bin Laden, and when he shows up for court, WE NAB HIM!!!

"it's bulletproof!"

Your sarcasm is well taken. On the other hand, perhaps Edwards' famous courtroom manipulation of juries can be used to full advantage by letting him "negotiate" with bin Laden. I'm sure his great hair, southern drawl, boyish smile, and demonstrative hands would persuade bin Laden to just call off his goons!


30 posted on 08/07/2004 9:27:44 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2

Edwards' perpetual smile alone should push bin Laden into further madness, possibly make him suicidal.


31 posted on 08/07/2004 9:32:14 AM PDT by Zeppelin
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thanks again,John !


32 posted on 08/07/2004 9:40:32 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: Congressman Billybob
All the subjects in this column are of strong interest to Freepers. Enjoy, and let me know what you think.

I think this subject is of huge interest to Freepers and you have outlined it well.

I don't know if you saw, but last night Tony Snow was in for Bill O'Reilly and had a dem guest (I believe his name was Matt Baer--I made notes at the time), and in studio was Monica Crowley.

While some Freepers were unhappy with Snow's amiable host demeanor, I noted that he got Baer to concede that George W. Bush had released all of his Guard records and that Kerry should release all of his own records, too. Baer explicitly agreed not once, but twice.

Crowley was probably the strongest on an issue as I have ever seen her. She made your (and Freepers') point that Kerry had chosen to make his Vietnam service the central plank of his qualifications for office.

Crowley also opined that she did think that "30 year old" service was at the very least tangentially relevant to review when evaluating a candidate for office. She said she thought it was fair that Bush's records had been reviewed and they seem to be in order and he served well and honorably.

As to Kerry, again he has made it a huge issue and these men have stepped forward to offer a different point of view. These men deserve to have their voices heard, Crowley firmly stated.

Hannity and Colmes was fascinating and there are a couple threads on it. The guest, Chris Horner, identified on screen as a "Republican lawyer" was excellent. Just excellent. Susan Estrich was in for Colmes and Horner's demeanor, points and language was so spot on it was fantastic to behold. The dem guest kept a big "what, me worry?" smile plastered on his face as he said things like "I hope they do keep running this ad as it will only hurt the Republicans". Horner asked if that was why the DNC had lawyers send threatening letters to the media trying to squash this ad.

Well, I hope we see more of Chris Horner.

BTW, I was on my high school debate team and enjoyed reading your review above of how a debate is structured.

33 posted on 08/07/2004 9:54:32 AM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: Zeppelin

No, if the nightmare comes true and the Johns are elected, VP Edwards sues Kerry and gets him ousted as President. Voila! President Edwards.


34 posted on 08/07/2004 10:02:17 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: headsonpikes
From dictionary.com:

wuss: n. Slang A person regarded as weak or timid and especially as unmanly,: “Cats are for wusses, dog men say” (Laura Blumenfeld).
[Probably blend of wimp, and pussy.] wussy adj.

Sounds like Hanoi John to me!

35 posted on 08/07/2004 10:11:18 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John lies!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I'm of the opinion that Kerry would fare better if he kept his mouth shut until the election.

THEY brought up his swift boat days, and the vets shot it down.

THEY brought up that none of his detractors were on his boat, and now someone from his boat has come forward and shot that down.

THEY brought up the seven minute delay, and surprise, surprise, out comes an interview transcript in which Kerry stated he couldn't even think and did nothing for thirty-five minutes after the second tower was hit.

He would be wise to not bring anything else up. He has nothing to run on - every lie comes back to bite him.

I'm really enjoying this election - the most important in my lifetime. Of course 2008 will be more important, on which Hillary is already hard at work.

36 posted on 08/07/2004 10:18:40 AM PDT by saint
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To: Congressman Billybob
That is what trial lawyers do!

The republicans need to say this everytime this story come up.

37 posted on 08/07/2004 10:26:37 AM PDT by WesternPacific
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To: Congressman Billybob; ntnychik; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; ...
Thanks, Congressman Billybob. Good essay today.

Says the Wuss: Ma, He’s Touching Me

Excerpt:

Here’s how a team of two would prepare for a debate. You would discuss and decide with your partner three points: 1) What are the main issues we want to make? 2) What are the main issues the other side it likely to make? And 3) What counterattacks can we expect from the other side, and how do we counter those? It is the last point which is most difficult to prepare for.

It’s also the point at which even veteran debaters can lose the whole contest. John Kerry may have just made just that fatal mistake on the subject of Vietnam, and it may be the final nail in the coffin of his campaign for President.

I have a number of friends who were “in country” when John Kerry was. A couple were in the Swift Boat service. Before Kerry’s acceptance speech at the Democratic Convention, I already knew the kind of charges of dishonesty that were possible. They were already being made, but well below the radar of national media. No one in the broader audience was listening.

Then Kerry decided, and it was obviously a deliberate and calculated decision, to promote his four months of service in Vietnam as the centerpiece of his campaign. And as I watched him do that, I knew he’d made a serious mistake right from our old Political Union days. Out of either arrogance or ignorance, Kerry did not anticipate the reaction that his Vietnam-centric speech would generate. As of this week, the proof is in that Kerry was not prepared to respond to what he should have known was coming, the truth squad of many more Swift Boat veterans than the dozen he featured on the stage in Boston.

The letter of 5 August is written by the “counsel for the Democratic Committee and for John Kerry.” It accuses Swift Boat Veterans for Truth as running a “dishonest” ad by fake crewmates and a “doctor.” Well the doctor is a real doctor, and none of the men on screen claimed that they were in his boat, only that they saw what happened. (The Kerry lawyers knock down a straw man by saying that they weren’t “in Kerry’s boat,” and blithely ignore that Swift Boats usually operate in flotillas of three or more boats.) And the letter implicitly threatens the station managers with lawsuits if they don’t back off.

Marc Elian, General Counsel, Kerry-Edwards ‘04, and Joseph Sandler, General Counsel, DNC, were the signers of this 2 1/2-page attack on the Swift Boat Veterans.

The tactics of Kerry’s (and the DNC’s) lawyers amount to this: They unfortunately paint Kerry as a small child in the backseat of a car with his siblings, headed for the beach. It’s been a long ride; the kids are getting fractious. And suddenly one of them whines to the mother, “Ma, he’s touching me.” That wussy tactic may work in the back seat of a Buick, but it won’t work in a presidential campaign. A man who cannot stand up to a vigorous debate conducted in English can hardly be expected to stand up to foreign enemies who are willing to kill Americans at any time and who speak the language of explosives.


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38 posted on 08/07/2004 10:33:51 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: NonValueAdded

It's worse than you think.

I was contacted by the press (USA Today, Washington Post) to explain some of George Bush's records because I was involved in the Air Guard at the time. I also went over the very few released records from Kerry's campaign, showing discrepancies therein and Kerry's failure to show up for mandatory Reserve duty in 1970-72.
Their response? Essentially, "we don't care about that, we're only interested in Bush".


39 posted on 08/07/2004 10:37:51 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Congressman Billybob

Interesting info on the job surveys.


40 posted on 08/07/2004 10:43:36 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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