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New AP/Iposos Poll; Kerry-48 Bush 45
AP ^ | August 6, 2004 | Will Lester

Posted on 08/06/2004 2:15:10 PM PDT by Nascardude

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The Bad News is that this makes a 7 point swing from the last AP poll before the convention. The good news is that this poll is within the margin of error. This is just been a bad day all around.
1 posted on 08/06/2004 2:15:11 PM PDT by Nascardude
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To: Nascardude
Democrat John Kerry, whose nominating convention highlighted his war service

Naw, it just started us looking at it. This week we are highlighting his war service :)

2 posted on 08/06/2004 2:18:23 PM PDT by gilliam
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The AP-Ipsos poll surveyed 1,001 adults, including 798 registered voters. <

So, 20% of this sample was from people who aren't even REGISTERED to vote??? Gee, I wonder who they support.

3 posted on 08/06/2004 2:22:06 PM PDT by shempy (EABOF)
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To: Nascardude

Remember the "bounce"


4 posted on 08/06/2004 2:22:08 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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Edison Montgomery, a 59-year-old Democrat from Lancaster, Ohio, said that after watching the convention he has grown more comfortable with Kerry -- especially on whether he is capable of protecting the nation.

"He seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders," Montgomery said.

It has to be something in the water. LOL

5 posted on 08/06/2004 2:23:51 PM PDT by been_lurking
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Flanked by his Vietnam crewmates

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Man, AP, I already know that he served. Placing that phrase in every article is ridiculous.


6 posted on 08/06/2004 2:26:17 PM PDT by amordei
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To: Nascardude

It is hard to keep track of all the zillions of polls that are released every day. Realclearpolitics does a good job summarizing them. Seems some polls showed a negative bounce, others showed a modest positive bounce, and still others showed no bounce. Not much consensus.

After what happened in Missouri, I'm not sure it even matter what these polls say.


7 posted on 08/06/2004 2:26:42 PM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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After what happened in Missouri, I'm not sure it even matter what these polls say

Also what happened in MO, is Holden lost. Two days before the primary, SUSA had him edging out a 1% lead, and he lost by 6%. Goes to show that these polls can still be technically correct within their own MOE but still be way off the mark. If these state polls are accurate in Nov, that will be a first.

8 posted on 08/06/2004 2:32:21 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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TRUTH IN POLLING DEMANDED IN PRESS RELEASES!!!!!!

I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY POLLED WERE TAXOCRATS AND HOW MANY WERE REPUBLICANS.

these polls are crooked if they fail to release the truth about how the poll was conducted.

I heard of a poll this morning that said Kerry was 7 or 8 points ahead of Bush. What they failed to mention is that the POLL HAD ONLY 38% REBUBLICANS AND SOMETHING LIKE 46% XOCRATS and 18% UNWASHED. (numbers are estimates as I don't recall the exactly)
9 posted on 08/06/2004 2:33:34 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry and The Taxocrates must be defeated, Flush the 2 John's)
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation; Torie; KQQL; Dales

It is strange that it seems that state polling in presidential elections is typically more off the mark than the national popular vote polls. It would seem like polls would get more accurate as the size of the population being polled decreases.

But then, I never was good at statistics.


10 posted on 08/06/2004 2:34:24 PM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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To: stockpirate

That was the ARG poll from Flordia that had Democrats severly overpolled. I don't know what the internals from this poll are.


11 posted on 08/06/2004 2:36:12 PM PDT by Nascardude
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If the election was held today, which would be unconstitutional, Kerry 296EV, Bush 236EV. We have to take Florida.


12 posted on 08/06/2004 2:37:10 PM PDT by COURAGE (A charter member of the Grim FReeper Club)
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Odd how all the polls are just sandbagging the day after the swiftvet story breaks.

Seems these polls are there to be neutralizing fodder for the swift vet story. The talking heads need their DNC talking points.

I don't even bother with sunday mornings because they have inside the beltway disease.


13 posted on 08/06/2004 2:42:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Just a foot note on the history of polls. We've probably heard all the mumbo jumbo about how undecideds always break for the challenger, and No incumbent has ever won with a below 50 percent approval rating. Well here is a trend for the Kerry folks to choke on. Since Gallup began polling during the FDR era, no challanger has ever won without opening up a significantly big lead after their convention. Here are the gallup polls after the challangers convention in past president elections where there was an incumbent:

1996: Challenger Dole trails Pres. Clinton by 7 points
1992: Challenger Clinton leads Pres. Bush by 22 points
1984: Challenger Mondale trails Pres. Reagan by 12 points.
1980: CHallenger Reagan leads Pres. Carter by 16 points.
1976: Challenger Carter leads Pres. Ford by 31 points.
1972: Challenger McGovern trails Pres. Nixon by 19 points.
1964: Challenger Goldwater trails LBJ by 27 points.


Kerry has failed to open up any kind of significant lead over Bush. His biggest lead is 5 in the Fox Poll and in most it averages about 1-3, and in the gallup even shows him behind.


14 posted on 08/06/2004 2:46:33 PM PDT by Nascardude
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To: Graybeard58

Poll Troll Ping


15 posted on 08/06/2004 2:50:23 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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16 posted on 08/06/2004 2:51:21 PM PDT by petercooper (In the end, Democrats are just a bunch of jackasses.)
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To: Nascardude

Excellent points.

Campaign School 101 says find a trend and claim it as your own. The DNC has been following this propaganda technique to a tee.

The problem is that all the reporters seem too stupid to pick up on this. Exposing BS propaganda would be a fertile stomping ground for reporters but they just don't want to do their jobs.


17 posted on 08/06/2004 2:55:26 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Nascardude

Geez - how many polling companies are out there? There seems like a new one everyday. I don't take a lot of stock in any of them, whether they are plus or minus Bush.


18 posted on 08/06/2004 3:24:59 PM PDT by gramho12 (Saute the Frenchurian candidate in November)
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Did they give a number for GWB approval ratings?


19 posted on 08/06/2004 3:25:17 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (2004 Doom World Tour.)
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Not bad for a ratpoll company. Remember when you see IPSOS read greenberg. When you read greenberg read ratpollster.


20 posted on 08/06/2004 3:29:38 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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