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Anti-Kerry Swift boat vet Lt. Commander George Elliot retracts and regrets anti Kerry statements
08/06/04

Posted on 08/06/2004 9:14:15 AM PDT by Destro

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To: steplock

This information is coming from Captial Blue???


61 posted on 08/06/2004 9:40:10 AM PDT by Mo1 (Kerry & Edwards .... they will leave no Special Interest Group behind)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I wonder what they did to blackmail him into a retraction.

Might have been a plant from the start.

62 posted on 08/06/2004 9:40:10 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Destro
I know everyone's excited over this Swift Boat Vets ad.. but here's some reading you might want to digest.... Yes it comes from a liberal source, but still it should be digested.

Read the article here

I am not saying this article is truthful, just saying its out there. We need some research on the facts of the articles claim and the ads participants.

63 posted on 08/06/2004 9:40:46 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: SDR
Elliott is quoted as saying that Kerry ''lied about what occurred in Vietnam . . . for example, in connection with his Silver Star, I was never informed that he had simply shot a wounded, fleeing Viet Cong in the back."

Nothing wrong with shooting a VC in the back or anywhere else....would you not have the police shoot a murderer in the back if he were fleeing the crime scene...

As far as being a teenager is concerned....3/4 of the grunts I served with were also teenagers and that didn't stop the VC from shooting or blowing us up....

Anyway Commander....now that you know the truth.....do you still think he deserves a Silver Star or has the Character necessary to be POTUS...the most powerful nation on earth....and more importantly OUR HOME ??....

If your answer is NO ...why did you retract?....

64 posted on 08/06/2004 9:40:55 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: steplock
You left off an important line in the story, "But he said: ''I simply have no reason for these guys to be lying, and if they are lying in concert, it is one hell of a conspiracy. So, on the basis of all of the information that has come out, I have chosen to believe the other men. I absolutely do not know first hand."
65 posted on 08/06/2004 9:40:59 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Destro

How exactly does one mistakenly sign an affidavit?????


66 posted on 08/06/2004 9:41:36 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: steplock
Pay close attention the next few days. GWB’s discharge papers have been found and will be released.
He was discharged as “undesirable”

After the AWOL incident, it was reported he received an honorable discharge.
Yep, get ready, The dems are getting really desperate. They're attempting to start a Moore type attack.

Now, if they try this, people need to demand Kerry's military records. Bush showed his freely, Kerry should not be hiding behind his.

There's too much controversy. Release all the military records of both of them. We need to know the truth.

67 posted on 08/06/2004 9:44:12 AM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Travis McGee
That's if Clinton's team is on the job.

Since when does Clinton want Kerry to win? The article says only that this guy says he was hasty to agree that Kerry didn't really deserve his silver star. He also goes on to say that he doesn't think the other swift vets are lying.
68 posted on 08/06/2004 9:44:18 AM PDT by Veritas et equitas ad Votum
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To: Destro
George Elliott has not discounted what the SBVfT members have said. If you read the entire Boston Globe story that this was based on, what he is saying is that he was not an eyewitness to the event in question, but that he still believes his SBV comrades:

Elliott, in the interview yesterday, said that based on the affidavits of the veterans on other boats, he now thinks his assessment about the Bronze Star and third Purple Heart may have been based on poor information.

In one affidavit, for example, Van O'Dell, who said he had been in a boat near Kerry on that day, declared that Kerry had ''lied" about what happened on that day and said that Rassmann was not under enemy fire when Kerry pulled him aboard.

Elliott, asked about the contradiction between his recommendation and his new questioning of Kerry's third Purple Heart, responded, ''It makes me look kind of silly, to be perfectly honest."

But he said: "I simply have no reason for these guys to be lying, and if they are lying in concert, it is one hell of a conspiracy. So, on the basis of all of the information that has come out, I have chosen to believe the other men. I absolutely do not know first hand."

That's not how the media will spin it, but that is what the man said.

69 posted on 08/06/2004 9:45:06 AM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: WVNan
He also said "I'm the one in trouble here." Threats?

Good Catch .. and very possible

70 posted on 08/06/2004 9:45:28 AM PDT by Mo1 (Kerry & Edwards .... they will leave no Special Interest Group behind)
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To: kabar

This will cast doubt on ANYONE who impugns Kerry's war record from here on out. Kerry's war record is now "off the table" as a tool for defeating him.


71 posted on 08/06/2004 9:46:14 AM PDT by ez (TERRORISTS FOR KERRY!!!)
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To: HamiltonJay
We know the history behind the making of this ad and the writing of the book.

John O'Neil has been fighting Kerry since 1971 when he called us all murderers.

The investigation, should there be one, needs to focus on John Kerry and his motives.

Not the swifties!

72 posted on 08/06/2004 9:47:01 AM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Do not think it was blackmail; just that he did not have enough personal knowledge of events. He does offer that he believes the Swift-boat Veterans in what they say regarding Kerry.

But as Rush just pointed out; that is not until the third page of his statement; and of couse, will this will not carry the interest of the media as they hype this story.

Score one. . .for Kerry.

73 posted on 08/06/2004 9:47:50 AM PDT by cricket (Don't Lose Your Head. . .Vote Republican)
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To: ez

Furthermore, this may explain why many conservative TV and radio people (O'Really)were not buying into the swift boat vet story for the last 24 hrs...they knew something like this was comin down the pipe.


74 posted on 08/06/2004 9:48:05 AM PDT by ez (TERRORISTS FOR KERRY!!!)
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To: Destro

a flip-flop
kerry must be so proud that his flip-floppin ways are catching on.


75 posted on 08/06/2004 9:48:54 AM PDT by beansox
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To: Destro

Money buys silence???


76 posted on 08/06/2004 9:49:41 AM PDT by marty60
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To: concerned about politics

you notice this "breaks" on a Friday - hard to offer a response on the weekend!


77 posted on 08/06/2004 9:50:02 AM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: Cold Heat

IF the swift boat vets are portraying things that are not indeed true, then it doesn't help the cause at all... I hate Kerry, but the other side is not going to sit by, and the article I linked has nothing to do with the making of the book but of the portrayal of the ad vs what the article claims are facts....

This is out there and must be answered.. if the left is lying then so be it, lets call em on it.. if however what they claim is true, we have to know.

Being consistent may hinder our side against the left, since they can lie cheat and steal with impunity, but we can't. Now admittedly most of the criticism in the article are mistatements by media reporting on the ad vs the ad itself, but it still has to be watched and monitored.


78 posted on 08/06/2004 9:51:56 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: Destro

Well then why hasn't Moore been sued yet?


79 posted on 08/06/2004 9:52:07 AM PDT by fiddlerselbow (In Derek Truck's music you can hear influences of Duane Allman, Monk, Hendrix, and Wes Montgomery.)
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To: steplock

The article headline says Elliot lied.

No where in the article does he say he lied. He says he "made a mistake".


80 posted on 08/06/2004 9:52:09 AM PDT by geopyg (Peace..................through decisive and ultimate VICTORY. (Democracy, whiskey, sexy))
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