The Fraud Factor: O'Reilly Slams Swift Boat Vets Kerry Ad

Self | 8-6-04

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

I suspected that, but I was hoping freepers could band together on this one and send O’Reilly to the cleaners with some pithy comments. He needs a reality check.

[phxaz]

clinton's/kerry's nsa steals top secret docs from the 9-11 commission. remember the towers coming down? kerry runs on his "service" in viet nam which lasted 4 frigging months and consists of acts of cowardice and there is anything else in the news? or anything else even being discussed? this is enough for me. its obvious the free exchange of ideas is not the way to a freer, safer nation.

[Taliesan]

has taken a position a while back saying he wouldn’t allow anyone or any information about Kerry’s role as the leader of the radical pro-communist VVAW, his connection to Jane Fonda, his bogus Winter Soldier Investigation, his testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971 or anything else to be aired on his program.

The explanation for this will be found by answering this question: What was Bill O'Reilly doing and saying during the VietNam War?

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

ABC CBS CNN FOX NBC



Why do the TV and Cable Newsrooms
hide Hanoi Kerry's past?

[gimme1ibertee]

Yes, I saw O'Reilly & Morris on Fox last night & thought it was rather disappointing that they would take such a stand regarding this ad. The H&C interview with the one vet was very good-he didn't back down an inch from Susan Estrich, though she tried to make the funding of the ad appear dubious in nature. I wish them luck,and I really hope they stay the course and don't capitulate,as it appears this one vet has done.

[roses of sharon]

O'reilly is a populist, always has been.

Which is why he bores me.

[Ramonan]

Your email address is BO

I watched O'Reilly last night. My thought was that he would give the Swift Boat guys a hearing. OH, NO!
He lets Dick Morris ( only credentials: Counselor to Bill Clinton, Pollster) come on a muse that this will hurt the Republicans

My Wife and I listened to Rick Roberts here in San Diego this morning. His guest was Admiral Hoffman. Admiral Hoffman EMPHASIZED that the Swiftys are NOT Republican, Democrat, or other political party. They put this on themselves. They paid for the effort themselves until donations came in.

The reason for the Swiftys bringing this up was that:
1. Kerry was a screw-up in the Nam

2. Kerry sold out his buddies when he got home.

My personal background is that I grew up on Ranches in Arizona, did various jobs including building Fast Frigates for the Navy for four years, then did 30.5 years as a Highway Patrol Officer. There is no documentation from any one of those jobs that I would deny anyone from seeing. The point of saying this is that:

YOU DO NOT LEAVE YOUR BUDDIES.

YOU SURE AS HELL DO NOT DEMEAN THEM TO OUTSIDERS!

[Badeye]

I just want to ask Bill O'Reilly why Kerry's vets are unimpeachable, but any other vet is impeachable.

I'm a vet, and I hold all vets....yes, even the despicable (politically) John F Kerry in high esteem for their service to our country.

Its Kerry's actions after he served that trouble me. Its Kerry's 18 months of slandering the President's service to our country thats been completely hate filled.

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander, Mr O.

Think about it.

[unsycophant]

You summed it up perfectly. He is a ratings whore, but that is the name of his game. Controversy = money and ratings.

Jenna Jameson told a story once about appearing on his show where he bashed her and trashed her for being a porn star who contributed to the moral decay of society. After her segment, he complimented her, and told her he was a big fan and enjoyed her work, and asked her to send him all her latest videos. Typical.

[NYer]

You remember this ;-D

[Smokin' Joe]

I am not so sure. O'Reilly could never get away with showing the ad more than a couple of times without catching unholy hell from the libs. He CAN attack it all day long and show clips from it until the cows come home. He can even give contact information so people can find out how to donate (under the guise of who to complain to). The viewers will make up their own mind.

At this point, any press (free advertising) for the Swift Boat Vets is good press, (much like Hollywood): the more people who are aware of the ad, the better chances of it being funded by donations.

[JRPerry]

Bill O'Reilley is an ally, not a friend.

I believe this assessment to be very correct. He cannot help but be a bit on the side of the right if he remains truthful. In other words, as long as he at least appears to be concerned with facts and truths - he'll have no choice other than to help us with our cause. Conservatives are just naturally more truthful than libs. And I do believe Bill is less prone to spinning than all of the others combined.

There is another angle to this. They may be playing this game knowing full well that it is making them appear more liberal sympathetic these days, right down to the donations, etc., ... but in turn it may be taking some of the heat off of them.

Hannity is not letting up. Neither are any of the others as far as I can tell - not "The Friends," not Shep and not Brent of Neil or John either for that matter. So we should still trust Fox for Fair and Balanced.

[texaslil]

Thanks for serving, Mike, but I hope you might reconsider. The first thing one learns in Pol.Sci. 101 is "you have to win." It's one of the sadder things I learned. It doesn't matter how great a leader might be, if he doesn't WIN, he can do nothing, not to mention he becomes chopped liver. All's fair in love and war, AND politics. Read, Machiavelli's, The Prince. He explains it rather nicely. In the words of GW. "You're either with us, or against us." Have to make sure the latter become the "chopped liver."

[Fenris6]

Agreed. O'Reilly's treatment of the Swift Boat ad was hypocritical. And he give no specifics to back up his claim that the add was false.

I have defended O'Reilly in the past. Never again.

[yarddog]

He is beginning to sound like "Politically Incorrect's" Bill Maher.

You know, pretending to be conservative wile actually being a radical leftist, except in O'reily's case he is pretending to be neutral.

[flashbunny]

I don't like oreilly not just because of this. I dislike him because he's anti-gun. I dislike him because he thiks we should cap the salaries of doctors at $100,000 a year. I dislike him because he takes idiotic positions and only backs them up by being able to talk over his opposition.

Bill O'Reilly is a pompous, arrongant, idiotic, moronic, self-serving blowhard who thinks he knows everything but doesn't know jack diddly squat. Bill o'reilly only believes in the things that will elevate bill o'reilly. And when that changes, his opinion changes.

[TC Rider]

I totally blame O'Really for Fox's poor showing in the Dem Convention sweepstakes. I would prefer to see and hear Brit Hume breathe than O'Really pontificate for an hour.

I switched to CSPan when O'Really came on.

[Nam Vet]

Below is the email I sent O'Reilly last evening after seeing his program.

Bill,

When you described one dozen or less Swift Vets as "some vets" and over 250 Swift Vets, including all of his command superiors, as "some vets" I lost my respect for your "objectivity". Better take a second look.

XXXX XXXXXXX
Portland, Oregon
Served with Coastal Div. 11 1967-1968

Pithy enough?

Nam Vet

[zip]

..they have been making a point of airing more Democrat-friendly programming lately.

Maybe airing more anti GOP/Bush/hit pieces on the swiftboatvets' ads would be more accurate. For those of you pushing for more Hannity, didn't you watch last night's program. Shawn sat there in complete silence while Susan Ostrich (or whatever) crucified the swiftvet rep. It was brutal.

[Eva]

I already emailed O'Reilly and told him that he forfeited the right to be disgusted by the statements of the swift boat veterans when he failed to express disgust over Kerry's harangue against President Bush for his National Guard service and obscene bragging about Kerry's thirty year old, four month tour of duty that Kerry is using to hide his failure of achievement in the legislature.