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Today Show on Swift Boat Ad: Ask Not if it's True; Ask if Bush Campaign Should Apologize
The Today Show

Posted on 08/06/2004 4:30:40 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

When it comes to toeing the Dem line, NBC's Campbell Brown takes a back seat to no one, including Katie Couric.

Filling in for Al-Kaety today, Brown did her best Terry McAuliffe impersonation. Interviewing Tim Russert, Brown showed a clip from the swift boat veterans' TV commercial in which a number of Kerry's fellow veterans question his honesty and integrity.

Campbell was utterly disinterested in whether the charges are true. Indeed, she effectively seemed to presume the falseness of the allegations.

She observed to Russert: "Republican Sen. John McCain says the ad is dishonest and dishonorable." She then asked: "Should the Bush campaign be doing the same thing?"

Was the ad factual? Campbell could care less. Bush must apologize!

Brown then got an answer she surely didn't want when discussion turned to Kerry's attack on W for not immediately leaving the elementary school classroom when informed of the second 9/11 plane attack. She observed: "Kerry has faulted Bush for a scene people are familiar with from Fahrenheit 911." NBC then displayed Rudy Giuliani's response: "Kerry must be frustrated if he is campaigning based on cues from Michael Moore."

Russert's response: "I'm surprised that Kerry raised it. He might be preaching to the choir. I'm not sure how it will play with independents." When someone in Russert's position says he was "surprised," you know it means that he thought it was a mistake.

Campbell concluded by asking Russert who won the week.

Russert: "What happpened after the Dem convention was that everything froze after the terror alerts. People in both camps believe any time you're talking about terror rather than the economy, it's a plus for the Bush campaign."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; jumpedtheshark; kerry; mediabias; nbcnews; swiftboatveterans
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To: wayoverontheright
Maybe he was running, and maybe he was shot in the back, but he was the ENEMY at that point, and from what little I know of VietNam, this probably was not an egregious act, simply war.

Yeah but that ain't Silver Star material by any stretch of the imagination
81 posted on 08/06/2004 6:10:09 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Veritas et equitas ad Votum
That's what Political Correctness has always been about.
It's fascism in its most basic form.
82 posted on 08/06/2004 6:11:35 AM PDT by TigersEye (Your parents are Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: jimbo123
Why did he hunt down a wounded VC teen and machinegun him in the back?

Probably mistook him for Randy Weaver's son.

83 posted on 08/06/2004 6:15:10 AM PDT by murdoog (taglines are far out man)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Campbell Brown, moments after receiving her morning's orders from Democratic Party HQ:

I refuse to believe that any liberal could ever be that adorable.

84 posted on 08/06/2004 6:16:40 AM PDT by murdoog (taglines are far out man)
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To: uncbob
Yeah but that ain't Silver Star material by any stretch of the imagination

Yes. I agree. That's the part of this incident which has value, not, as some seem to be saying, that this was equivalent to the murder of an innocent. If the kid was shooting at us, he was a combatant pure and simple, and should have been shot, running or not.

85 posted on 08/06/2004 6:19:54 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: mewzilla
Good morning.

Take a Google search this Friday a.m. of American news articles on the John Kerry Swift Boat issue appearing this morning:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&ie=UTF-8&newsclusterurl=http://money.cnn.com/cnn/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/kerry.veterans/

Sheesh, it's nearly 1/3rd "Sen. McCain..this and that" either in the headlines or in the first few paragraphs. Rather than the seriousness of the charges, the nature of the charges themselves. The lib press is so blatant.

Of course, they cannot allow this to grow legs, because it will indict the press as not having done their job, i.e., in researching this, months and years ago. So defacto, not only wanting to defeat Bush, they need to save their own face in the whole rotten thing, by causing it to "disappear" just as they did with Sandy Berger's crimes and the Kerry Staff Sex Scandal.

86 posted on 08/06/2004 6:28:11 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Hitlery Recently Seen Throwing Banana Peels in Front of Kerry and Edwards' Residences)
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To: uncbob
Yeah but that ain't Silver Star material by any stretch of the imagination.

That is the real issue today.

Let's look at what happened. The "kid" shot at them with a rocket. That means two things for sure. One, he was an enemy combatant. Two, he had an empty rocket tube. The swiftboat gunner returned fire with a .50 cal machine gun. According to the vet on Hannity the "kid" was hit in the legs and hurt pretty badly. Then Kerry, the commander of the boat, brought the boat to shore and personally went after the "kid." He caught up with him and killed him.

He killed an unarmed injured combatant. Not good, he should have captured him, but so what? Meanwhile his boat and crew were grounded on the shore waiting for their commander to return after having taken fire. Sitting ducks.

And Kerry puts himself in for a medal for that? He should have been courts martialed or at least severely reprimanded for endangering his crew.

87 posted on 08/06/2004 6:28:18 AM PDT by TigersEye (Your parents are Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

As far as John McCain defending John Kerry against the SwiftVets ad, left's not forget one thing. That is IF John Kerry is elected, John McCain will probably be his Secretary of Defense (and this will be the closest McCain ever gets to the oval office). So John McCain has more than just a passing interst in this whole ordeal. It is in both Kerry and McCain's best interest to see this whole ordeal go away as quickly as possible. Personally, I don't see how John McCain can even look at the creep without wanting to knock his d$ck stiff after what Kerry did to our boys that were still fighting in Nam in 1971. Don't forget, while McCain was rotting in the Hanoi Hilton Hilton, the Communist Vietnamese were reading every word to our POW's that traitor John kerry was saying about them and the war. That was their biggest weapon against the POW's (demoralizing them). John Kerry is a traitor, and I for one as a veteran will do everything that I can to see that the REAL truth is told about this Marxist creep. He is not worthy to lead this great nation.

Semper Fi'
Buffettfan


88 posted on 08/06/2004 6:28:29 AM PDT by Buffettfan (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Russert said that Kerry cannot agree to eliminating all 527 ads along with the President because it would leave him "dark" for the month -- he has to wait to spend his $75 million.

It was blatant cheerleading for Kerry. Disgusting. Kerry is free as the wind to condemn all 527s and spend his $75 million at any rate he pleases.


89 posted on 08/06/2004 6:33:18 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Suggested new Kerry campaign theme song: "Killing Me Softly" by Roberta Flack.

LOL. Good one. Works on a lot of levels.

90 posted on 08/06/2004 6:34:06 AM PDT by iceskater (No nation or state ever taxed itself into prosperity.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

McCain is the Kerry of the republicans.

Check out his record. Flip flops galore, and he'll say anything for publicity.


91 posted on 08/06/2004 6:35:37 AM PDT by I still care (Have you heard about the Democrat cocktail? It's ketchup with a chaser.)
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To: Area51

I wish any of the swift boat vets would just say, if Kerry is telling the truth, release his medical records. THey've yet to make this point on FOX, CNN or NBC last night or this morning.


92 posted on 08/06/2004 6:35:46 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: AmericanInTokyo
For the record, are you calling the Swift vets liars, McCain?

Use the L-word, because if you don't...

93 posted on 08/06/2004 6:35:59 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: goldstategop

The economic numbers today are just horrendous...uttter devastation for Bush today.

Just horrid.

I pray they pick up the day after Dubya's speech and show some huge hirings.

If not, we are IN TROUBLE.


94 posted on 08/06/2004 6:44:50 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: wayoverontheright
If the kid was shooting at us, he was a combatant pure and simple, and should have been shot, running or not.

The kid - already shot in the legs - would have been an intelligence source if captured.
95 posted on 08/06/2004 6:47:47 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: isthisnickcool

",,,Kerry was stupid to bring Vietnam up..."

Murder will out.


96 posted on 08/06/2004 6:52:14 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
McCain is once again acting as a blunt object with which the DemocRATS can club President Bush about the head.

I sometimes thing McCain only doesn't become a DemocRAT because he thinks he can do more damage from inside, as a Republican.

97 posted on 08/06/2004 6:58:49 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: R. Scott
The kid - already shot in the legs - would have been an intelligence source if captured.

Yes, probably leading to more dangerous missions in the near future. An aspiring young politician can't afford such risks.

98 posted on 08/06/2004 7:11:50 AM PDT by TigersEye (Your parents are Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: Veritas et equitas ad Votum
"I meant to say that the same people who compare Bush to Hitler are NOW demanding that he stifle free speech."

Simple. Free speech is for democRATs; rules of decency, propriety and fair play are for Republicans.

99 posted on 08/06/2004 7:23:42 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: isthisnickcool
Remember O'Neill on Dick Cavett debating Kerry? That was great TV, great theatre.

C-SPAN ran the debate in its entirety a month or two ago. O'Neill ripped Kerry a new one on the facts, but Kerry had the sympathy of the audience and of the times.

I don't expect that the Kerry Campaign will let O'Neill get within a mile of Kerry this year, but it'll be interesting to see what happens with the book.

100 posted on 08/06/2004 7:57:25 AM PDT by angkor
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