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VETS CHARGE: KERRY KILLED FLEEING TEEN; LIED FOR MEDAL
DRUDGE REPORT ^ | AUG 04, 2004 | DRUDGE REPORT

Posted on 08/05/2004 6:26:19 PM PDT by Dubya

Slaughters Animals, Burns Down Tiny Village

**Exclusive**

A veterans group seeking to deeply discredit Democrat John Kerry's military service will charge in the new bombshell book UNFIT FOR COMMAND:

"Kerry earned his Silver Star by killing a lone, fleeing, teenage Viet Cong in a loincloth."

"And if Kerry's superiors had known the truth at the time, they would never have recommended him for the medal."

The book also claims to detail how Kerry personally ordered the slaughter of small animals at a small hamlet along the Song Bo De River.

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The book, set for release next week, hit #1 on the AMAZON hitparade after the DRUDGE REPORT revealed details of the book -- a book the Kerry camapign believes is the"the dirtiest of all dirty tricks ever played on a candidate for the presidency."

The Kerry campaign is planning to vigorously counter the charges and will accuse the veteran's groups of being well-financed by a top Bush donor from Texas.

The vets have launched a blistering new TV commercial questioning Kerry's honor and calling him a liar.

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George Bates, an officer in Coastal Division 11, participated in numerous operations with Kerry. In UNFIT FOR COMMAND, Bates recalls a particular patrol with Kerry on the Song Bo De River. He is still "haunted" by the incident:

With Kerry in the lead, the boats approached a small hamlet with three or four grass huts. Pigs and chickens were milling around peacefully. As the boats drew closer, the villagers fled. There were no political symbols or flags in evidence in the tiny village. It was obvious to Bates that existing policies, decency, and good sense required the boats to simply move on.

Instead, Kerry beached his boat directly in the small settlement. Upon his command, the numerous small animals were slaughtered by heavy-caliber machine guns. Acting more like a pirate than a naval officer, Kerry disembarked and ran around with a Zippo lighter, burning up the entire hamlet.

Bates has never forgotten Kerry's actions.

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UNFIT FOR COMMAND, DRUDGE has learned, claims Kerry "earned his Silver Star by killing a lone, fleeing, teenage Viet Cong in a loincloth."

ARE THE VETS TELLING THE TRUTH?

"They hired a goddamn private investigator to dig up trash!" charged a top Kerry adviser traveling with the senator late Tuesday. "This is pay for play... How low can they go?"

Kerry supporters are comparing the effort by the veterans to the Arkansas State troopers tell-all against Bill Clinton.

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John O'Neill, co-author of UNFIT FOR COMMAND, believes that "Kerry's Star would never have been awarded had his actions been reviewed through normal channels. In his case, he was awarded the medal two days after the incident with no review. The medal was arranged to boost the morale of Coastal Division 11, but it was based on false and incomplete information provided by Kerry himself."

According to Kerry's Silver Star citation, Kerry was in command of a three-boat mission on the Dong Cung River. As the boats approached the target area, they came under intense enemy fire. Kerry ordered his boat to attack and all boats opened fire. He then beached directly in front of the enemy ambushers. In the battle that followed, the crews captured enemy weapons. His boat then moved further up the river to suppress more enemy fire. A rocket exploded near Kerry's boat, and he ordered to charge the enemy. Kerry beached his boat 10 feet from the rocket position and led a landing party ashore to pursue the enemy.

Kerry' citation reads: "The extraordinary daring and personal courage of Lt. Kerry in attacking a numerically superior force in the face of intense fire were responsible for the highly successful mission."

Here's what O'Neill and the Swiftees say: "According to Kerry's crewman Michael Madeiros, Kerry had an agreement with him to turn the boat in and onto the beach if fired upon. Each of the three boats involved in the operation was involved in the agreement." O'Neill writes that one crewman even recalls a discussion of probable medals.

Doug Reese, a pro Kerry Army veteran, recounted what happened that day to O'Neill, "Far from being alone, the boats were loaded with many soldiers commanded by Reese and two other advisors. When fired at, Reese's boat--not Kerry's--was the first to beach in the ambush zone. Then Reese and other troops and advisors (not Kerry) disembarked, killing a number of Viet Cong and capturing a number of weapons. None of the participants from Reese's boat received Silver Stars.

O'Neill continues: "Kerry's boat moved slightly downstream and was struck by a rocket-propelled grenade. . . .A young Viet Cong in a loincloth popped out of a hole, clutching a grenade launcher, which may or may not have been loaded. . . Tom Belodeau, a forward gunner, shot the Viet Cong with an M-60 machine gun in the leg as he fled. . . . Kerry and Medeiros (who had many troops in their boat) took off, perhaps with others, and followed the young Viet Cong and shot him in the back, behind a lean to."

O'Neill concludes "Whether Kerry's dispatching of a fleeing, wounded, armed or unarmed teenage enemy was in accordance with the customs of war, it is very clear that many Vietnam veterans and most Swiftees do not consider this action to be the stuff of which medals of any kind are awarded; nor would it even be a good story if told in the cold details of reality. There is no indication that Kerry ever reported that the Viet Cong was wounded and fleeing when dispatched. Likewise, the citation simply ignores the presence of the soldiers and advisors who actually 'captured the enemy weapons' and routed the Viet Cong. . . . [and] that Kerry attacked a 'numerically superior force in the face of intense fire' is simply false. There was little or no fire after Kerry followed the plan. . . . The lone, wounded, fleeing young Viet Cong in a loincloth was hardly a force superior to the heavily armed Swift Boat and its crew and the soldiers carried aboard."

DRUDGE learns from UNFIT FOR COMMAND that if Kerry's superior officers knew the truth, they would never have recommended the award:

"Admiral Roy Hoffmann, who sent a Bravo Zulu (meaning "good work"), to Kerry upon learning of the incident, was very surprised to discover in 2004 what had actually occurred. Hoffmann had been told that Kerry had spontaneously beached next to the bunker and almost single-handedly routed a bunkered force in Viet Cong. He was shocked to find out that Kerry had beached his boat second in a preplanned operation, and that he had killed a single, wounded teenage foe as he fled."

"Commander Geoge Elliott, who wrote up the initial draft of Kerry's Silver Star citation, confirms that neither he, nor anyone else in the Silver Star process that he knows, realized before 1996 that Kerry was facing a single, wounded young Viet Cong fleeing in a loincloth. While Commander Elliott and many other Swiftees believe that Kerry committed no crime in killing the fleeing, wounded enemy (with a loaded or empty launcher), others feel differently. Commander Elliott indicates that a Silver Star recommendation would not have been made by him had he been aware of the actual facts."

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----------------------------------------------------------- Filed By Matt Drudge Reports are moved when circumstances warrant http://www.drudgereport.com for updates (c)DRUDGE REPORT 2004


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: johnoneill; kerry; militaryrecord; swiftboatveterans; unfitforcommand
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1 posted on 08/05/2004 6:26:21 PM PDT by Dubya
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To: Dubya
I can hardly wait for the movie.

Wait a minute - there already is a movie

(/chortle)

2 posted on 08/05/2004 6:27:48 PM PDT by TomServo ("I'm so upset that I'll binge on a Saltine.")
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To: Dubya

WOW! Hot potato here.


3 posted on 08/05/2004 6:27:54 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya

Do you think the rescue of Licorice the hamster was an attempt at penance for all the poor Vietnamese animals he slaughtered? Hmmm...


4 posted on 08/05/2004 6:29:07 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: Dubya

Man, Susan Estrogenwitch was just on Hannity and Colmes and she keeps saying over and over that these guys didn't serve with Kerry because they were on another boat, NEARBY, but she is spinning spinning spinning the truth.


5 posted on 08/05/2004 6:29:42 PM PDT by buffyt (It is not a CHOICE - It is a CHILD.)
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To: buffyt

is there any guys from kerrys boat who are speaking out against him?


6 posted on 08/05/2004 6:31:13 PM PDT by barryallen
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To: Dubya
Is there a problem with killing a fleeing Vietcong teen? It's certainly not medal-award-winning behavior - but it is seems reasonable to eliminate the enemy especially when they're hurt.

Don't get me wrong - I am not defending this as a medal - or any of his other actions or poses - but this action is okay by me.

7 posted on 08/05/2004 6:31:48 PM PDT by kcar (www.TheUNsucks.com)
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To: Dubya

Seriously, I heard somewhere, I mean heard then read.... that John Kerry himself said that he had shot a twelve year old boy in a hillside village and something about shooting at their dogs and women and children. Somebody has got to know more on this.


8 posted on 08/05/2004 6:32:10 PM PDT by onyx eyes
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To: barryallen

"My name is Steve Gardner. I served in 1966 and 1967 on my first tour of duty in Vietnam on Swift boats, and I did my second tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of my tour. The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody else is portraying. I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away from him in a gun tub, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy... if a man like that can't handle that 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be our Commander-in-Chief?"
-- Steven Gardner

The above quote was from a press conference given at the National Press Club in Washington on May 4, 2004. You may view Steven’s comments at the following web site. Just scroll down to Steven’s picture and click on it.

http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php?topic=SwiftVetQuotes


Searching through that web site, you will find 250 men who served on Swift boats, including the entire chain of command above Lt. Kerry, agree with Steven Gardner that Kerry is not fit to be Commander-in-Chief. That compares to the 13 crew members who support his candidacy.


9 posted on 08/05/2004 6:34:00 PM PDT by LOC1
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To: LOC1

thanks, i was just reading (on drudge) that none of the guys in the ad actually served with kerry on the boat.


11 posted on 08/05/2004 6:36:38 PM PDT by barryallen
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To: Dubya
I just saw the croaking toad Susan Estrich "interviewing" one of these vets on Hannity and Colmes. She was going after this guy like she was deposing him. Doing the "isn't it true" type of questioning lawyers do. Interrupting him and basically calling him a liar. She didn't do to well. It was like watching a high powered lawyer grill your kindly old father.

Estrich has made a career out of being raped many years ago. She is creepy. And absolutely one of the most self-absorbed people I've ever seen.

12 posted on 08/05/2004 6:36:48 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: Archangelsk
I agree that the Bush campaign should focus only on Kerry's voting record and not his service, or even his testimony before Congress about his service. That is what Bush is doing, but he could be stronger in his condemnation of the Swift vets.

At the same time, what right does Bush have to criticize them? Bush didn't serve in Vietnam, he didn't serve alongside Kerry. What right does Bush have to tell these veterans to "shove it?"

13 posted on 08/05/2004 6:41:11 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Dubya

What these Vets are saying is either true or it is not. Let the media investigation begin and let the chips fall where they may!


14 posted on 08/05/2004 6:42:28 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: Archangelsk

we don't want your vote if you support what kerry did here...


15 posted on 08/05/2004 6:43:33 PM PDT by go star go
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To: barryallen

So you buy the dim spin that just because they weren't on the same boat, just boats that ran together closely on missions, the swift boat vets for truth don't know about Kerry?


16 posted on 08/05/2004 6:45:33 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: Dubya
"Kerry earned his Silver Star by killing a lone, fleeing, teenage Viet Cong in a loincloth."

While he certainly didnt merit a Silver Star....killing a fleeing VietCong was what he was being paid to do....

The VietCong 'teenagers' killed a lot of my bros in the 9th ID...they were very hard corps ENEMY soldiers...as were the girls...

If he torched a VC village and killed their animals...he was doing my guys a favor....

You should have seen what the big "Zippos" did...

What the hell you think war is about....letting the enemy go and stay fed and resupplied?

I dont like Kerry one bit....but if y'all think what Kerry did...was a war crime...there is gonna be a lot of other Vietnam vets gonna hang...and a lot of medals revoked...

IMO

17 posted on 08/05/2004 6:46:09 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Dubya
In Breaking News since 9:30 this morning:

Viet Vets Charge: Kerry Killed Lone, Fleeing Teenage Foe; Lied To Superiors To Gain Medal

18 posted on 08/05/2004 6:46:47 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Dubya

"...how Kerry personally ordered the slaughter of small animals "

Ironically, this is what will cost him the election.


19 posted on 08/05/2004 6:48:30 PM PDT by SerpentDove (November 2004: Win One for the Gipper.)
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To: Archangelsk
but that is a bunch of unmitigated, unsubstantiated bullshit.

Hey Hoss

Kerry testifed before congress that he torched villages
20 posted on 08/05/2004 6:49:52 PM PDT by uncbob
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