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Christmas In “Cambodia” (UNFIT FOR COMMAND)
Unfit for Command ^ | Swift Vets

Posted on 08/04/2004 11:25:23 PM PDT by Steven W.

Christmas In “Cambodia”
Vietnam, December 1968

JOHN KERRY’S STORY

If there is one story told over and over again by John Kerry since his return from Vietnam, it is the heart-wrenching tale of how he spent Christmas Eve and Christmas Day illegally in Cambodia. From the early 1970s, when he used the tale as part of his proof for war crimes in Cambodia, through the mid-1980s and the 1990s, Kerry has spoken and written again and again of how he was illegally ordered to enter Cambodia.

On the floor of the U.S. Senate on March 27, 1986, Kerry launched one of his many attacks against President Reagan—this time charging that President Reagan’s actions in Central America were leading the United States into yet another Vietnam, claiming that he could recognize the error of the administration’s ways because he had experienced firsthand the duplicity of the Nixon administration in lying about American incursions into Cambodia during the Vietnam War.

Kerry charged that he had been illegally ordered into Cambodia during Christmas 1968:

I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared—seared—in me.

Kerry also described, for example, for the Boston Herald his vivid memories of his Christmas Eve spent in Cambodia:

I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real.

As recently as July 7, 2004, Michael Kranish of the Boston Globe repeated Kerry’s Christmas in Cambodia story on FOX News Channel’s Hannity & Colmes, indicating that it was a critical turning point in Kerry’s life. Kranish had no knowledge, even after his extensive study of Kerry, that he was simply repeating a total fabrication by Kerry. And Kranish was right: Study of the Christmas in Cambodia story is central to understanding John Kerry.

The story is also in the pages of the 2004 biography written by Krahish and other Boston Globe reporters. As we have come to expect, the story is twisted at the end to provide justification for yet another of Kerry’s political ruses, this time used to justify what Kerry portrays as his noble and continuing distrust of government pronouncements:

To top it off, Kerry said later that he had gone into Cambodia, despite President Nixon’s assurances to the American public that there was no combat action in this neutral territory. The young sailor began to develop a deep mistrust of the U.S. government pronouncements, he later recalled.

Even without minimal investigation, a critical press should have been able to spot the story as a total fabrication: Richard Nixon did not become president of the United States until twenty-six days after John Kerry’s Christmas in Cambodia.

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED: CHRISTMAS IN VIETNAM

Despite the dramatic memories of his Christmas in Cambodia, Kerry’s statements are complete lies. Kerry was never in Cambodia during Christmas 1968, or at all during the Vietnam War. In reality, during Christmas 1968, he was more than fifty miles away from Cambodia. Kerry was never ordered into Cambodia by anyone and would have been court-martialed had he gone there.

During Christmas 1968, Kerry was stationed at Coastal Division 13 in Cat Lo. Coastal Division 13’s patrol areas extended to Sa Dec, about fifty-five miles from the Cambodian border. Areas closer than fifty-five miles to the Cambodian border in the area of the Mekong River were patrolled by PBRs, a small river patrol craft, and not by Swift Boats. Preventing border crossings was considered so important at the time that an LCU (a large, mechanized landing craft) and several PBRs were stationed to ensure that no one could cross the border.

A large sign at the border prohibited entry. Tom Anderson, Commander of River Division 531, who was in charge of the PBRs, confirmed that there were no Swifts anywhere in the area and that they would have been stopped had they appeared.

All the living commanders in Kerry’s chain of command—Joe Streuhli (Commander of CosDiv 13), George Elliott (Commander of CosDiv 11), Adrian Lonsdale (Captain, USCG and Commander, Coastal Surveillance Center at An Thoi), Rear Admiral Roy Hoffmann (Commander, Coastal Surveillance Force Vietnam, CTF 115), and Rear Admiral Art Price (Commander of River Patrol Force, CTF 116)—deny that Kerry was ever ordered to Cambodia. They indicate that Kerry would have been seriously disciplined or court-martialed had he gone there. At least three of the five crewmen on Kerry’s PCF 44 boat—Bill Zaldonis, Steven Hatch, and Steve Gardner—deny that they or their boat were ever in Cambodia. The remaining two crewmen declined to be interviewed for this book. Gardner, in particular, will never forget those days in late December when he was wounded on PCF 44, not in Cambodia, but many miles away in Vietnam.

The Cambodia incursion story is not included in Tour of Duty.

Instead, Kerry replaces the story with a report about a mortar attack that occurred on Christmas Eve 1968 “near the Cambodia border” in a town called Sa Dec, some fifty-five miles from the Cambodian border.

Somehow, Kerry’s secret illegal mission to Cambodia, which he recounted on the floor of the U.S. Senate in 1986, is now a firefight at Sa Dec and a Christmas day spent back at the base writing entries in his journal. The truth is that Kerry made up his secret mission into Cambodia.

Much like Kerry’s many other lies relating to supposed “war crimes” committed by the U.S. military in Vietnam, the lie about the illegal Cambodian incursion painted his superiors up the chain of command—men such as Commander Streuhli, Commander Elliott, Admiral Hoffmann, and Admiral Zumwalt, all distinguished Naval heroes and men of integrity—as villains faced down by John Kerry, a solitary hero in grave and exotic danger and forced illegally and against his will into harm’s way.

The same sorts of lies were repeated over and over in Kerry’s antiwar book, The New Soldier, a book filled with preposterous, false confessions of bogus war crimes committed by the participants (who were often not even real veterans) against their will and under orders from dishonest superiors. Kerry’s Christmas in Cambodia typifies the sort of lie upon which Kerry has built a false persona and a political career.

The story of Christmas 1968 has one final chapter. When refueling his PCF near Dong Tam, Kerry and his crew were told that the Bob Hope USO show was at the Dong Tam base. So Kerry decided to leave his station on the river and go searching for the Bob Hope Christmas show. Unable to find the show, he risked boat and crew by unknowingly blundering into one of the most dangerous canals in Vietnam, a canal that to those who knew the area was notorious for Viet Cong ambushes. Given the easy navigation by radar and map of the rivers involved—not much more difficult than driving a car—Kerry had just performed a feat of reverse navigation worthy of Wrong Way Corrigan.

There is, of course, no record that Kerry ever informed anyone of what he did, where he was, or where he was going—all required by regulations for the safety of the boat and crew. He did, however, record the Bob Hope adventure in his journal so he could be sure to share it in Tour of Duty.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bookexcerpt; cambodia; christmasncambodia; fraud; kerry; swiftboatveterans; swiftvets; unfitforcommand; vietnam
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To: Howlin
Even without minimal investigation, a critical press should have been able to spot the story as a total fabrication: Richard Nixon did not become president of the United States until twenty-six days after John Kerry’s Christmas in Cambodia.

HAHAHAHAHA ... That dang facts again

Ok .. back to reading

61 posted on 08/05/2004 11:06:39 PM PDT by Mo1 (Kerry & Edwards .... they will leave no Special Interest Group behind)
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To: Travis McGee

If asked if there is anyone who can vouch for him, he will say, "I'm not gonna tell you till I'm elected."


62 posted on 08/05/2004 11:07:04 PM PDT by SerpentDove (November 2004: Win One for the Gipper.)
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To: js1138

Kerry always called it "Mr. Nixon's war."


63 posted on 08/05/2004 11:09:49 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: Mo1

If even one paragraph of this is true, which I have no doubt all of it is, this guy is worse than Clinton every could be.


64 posted on 08/05/2004 11:13:47 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: Howlin

Well, President Nixon won it. (and then congress lost it).


65 posted on 08/05/2004 11:16:36 PM PDT by geopyg (Peace..................through decisive and ultimate VICTORY. (Democracy, whiskey, sexy))
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To: Howlin

Kerry's whole life is one Big Lie


66 posted on 08/05/2004 11:26:07 PM PDT by Mo1 (Kerry & Edwards .... they will leave no Special Interest Group behind)
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To: Steven W.
Is this story going to be covered? Is this story going to be covered? Is this story going to be covered? Is this story going to be covered? Is this story going to be covered? Is this story going to be covered? Is this story going to be covered? Is this story going to be covered? Is this story going to be covered?

IS THIS STORY GOING TO BE COVERED?

(It proves the point that that the Swift Boat Vets are trying to make about Kerry)

67 posted on 08/05/2004 11:34:40 PM PDT by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democrat party- Save USA,-Vote a Dem out of office)
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Self ping for later.


68 posted on 08/05/2004 11:41:51 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (As F'n Kerry says, "Pardon, ma francaise!")
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To: Travis McGee
I would just suppose, the only people going into laos and cambodia at the time were special op. I don't think even kerry the magnificant could have pulled that rabbit out of the hat w/o being in special forces.
69 posted on 08/05/2004 11:53:30 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (“John Kerry has fought harder for the Vietnamese communists than he fought against them in Vietnam.”)
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To: Travis McGee

all avenues to get money to the swifties are blocked so far.


some saavy freepers should look into this.


70 posted on 08/06/2004 12:00:49 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
all avenues to get money to the swifties are blocked so far.

What do you mean?

71 posted on 08/06/2004 8:04:01 AM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: Howlin

all of last night i could not get any money to the swifties

finally just now, it took my donation


72 posted on 08/06/2004 8:59:43 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy

Oh, thank goodness. I thought something had happened to them that I had missed!


73 posted on 08/06/2004 9:07:26 AM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: Howlin; wardaddy
I think I remember someone talking about some servers under a Denial of Service attack when one of the Swifty Vets was on the Hannity Radio show....

doubt I can find that thread again/ but I'll look!
74 posted on 08/06/2004 10:36:53 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Travis McGee
Don't have a clue......Neither did Kerry, cause he WASN'T there..
80% of Kerry's "story" is bullshit, and I suspect that at least 1 PH, the Silver Star and the Bronze Star would NOT pass legitimate scrutiny..

Up North, in I Corp - we were adjacent to the border with Laos..not Cambodia.. Different folk..

And -- Contrary to "official position" at the time, we DID receive and "administer to" Recon teams coming back from Laos, reentering Vietnam near Lao Bao.
This was later acknowledged, but not at the time.

Semper Fi
75 posted on 08/06/2004 10:59:13 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

I don't think it's plausible he went to Cambodia, and no other crew members remember it. No way did he get picked to go solo on some CIA or SOG mission without any of his Swift crew.


76 posted on 08/07/2004 9:29:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

If he had been anywhere near Cambodia that would have been good for a few more Purple Hearts for him to exploit. Since he didn't, that's how I know he wasn't there.


77 posted on 08/07/2004 9:40:27 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: Fair Paul

Good point.


78 posted on 08/07/2004 9:45:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Kerry Senate Speech
79 posted on 08/08/2004 12:21:51 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Mia T

Bump for great work!


80 posted on 08/08/2004 7:39:59 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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