Posted on 08/04/2004 9:02:56 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Go to the Nashville Tennessean today and check out the story on confiscation of fake social security cards. Fantastic story and well-written. It will be worth our time.
Interesting article.
Here is a link to it:
http://tennessean.com/government/archives/04/08/55398153.shtml?Element_ID=55398153
They just took the cards and let them go? Unbelievable!
I tried to post just the link, but it wouldn't let me. I can't believe how bad things are. And, immigration control will not do much of anything except a little around election year to get votes for whomever is manipulating the situation.
Yes, thanks. Already posted. I tried, failed.
Since stealing and using fraudulent Social Security numbers is a felony crime, this should permanently bar these people from ever obtaining legal residency or citizenship.
Then quit your whining, Ms. Marston, and have EVERYBODY fill out the same information. Be consistent, if it makes you happy. But obey the law.
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This sounds like theft of personal property..........but hey, if it works I'm all for it.
Just another US law that isn't *enforced* if your status is illegal.
Sheesh.....some of our illegal child molesters, receive NO jail time, & are only deported.
( I guess they just *promise* not to re-enter the US)
20% using fraudulent paperwork, in just One US city........yet many still believe our security/borders/illegal problems "not much to worry about".
" Just another US law that isn't *enforced* if your status is illegal."
Yeah, just try and do this if you are a citizen. You would be sent to jail.
Why do these people get a pass on obeying our laws?!!
Any LEOs care to answer?
Special Agent Michael Cawthon of Tennessee's Alcohol Beverage Commission, working on a tip, entered a mandatory 5-hour class on serving responsibilities being held in a Mexican restaurant located on South Nashville's Nolensville Road. After checking IDs and Social Security cards he confiscated a set from one of the three women attending that day. While Cawthon returned to his office the woman went home and spread the word, resulting in six scheduled students missing the next class.
While the owner of the tutoring business made complaints about being singled out (despite the fact that 29 of her recent students submitted false Social Security numbers), Cawthon returned to his office and added the fake documents to his huge collection. One of only 36 armed ABC agents in the state, he gives the reporter a quick description of what he's up against.
ABC's duties were expanded two years ago when an applicant submitted a number that belonged to a person who'd already obtained a serving permit. After receiving training from the Treasury Department on false documentation and gaining access to the Social Security database ABC agents began their uphill battle. In Nashville alone they have rooted out 800 fake Social Security numbers from 4,000 waiters and prospective bartenders during the past six months alone. Recent expansion of operations into Memphis, Chattanooga and Knoxville has yielded 75 during the last two months.
ABC sent their results to immigration officials until learning that nothing was done with that information due to BICE focusing their limited resources to felons. They also found that the Social Security Administration's efforts are restricted to workplace fraud and providing number authentications while leaving individuals for others to deal with. ABC is thus reduced to sending letters to those they've found submitting fraudulent numbers. Meanwhile, 20% of applicants for drink-serving permits continue submitting other people's Social Security numbers or ones totally fabricated.
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I live on Nolensville Rd. and can attest to the vast numbers of legal and illegal Latin American immigrants turning this section of the city into a Third World nightmare. When some posters speak as if it will never happen to their towns I say it's already happening and they're just not looking. - NRT
Of course not - they're illegal aliens. But if you were to try it they would nail you to a cross.
There is one set of rules for them and another set of rules for us. Illegals rule and we lose.
One would hope so, but..... From the article:
Then Cawthon left, returning to the commission's office, where he slid the documents into a fat file bulging with hundreds of unclaimed fake Social Security cards, immigration IDs and driver's licenses. For now, no state or federal agency is following up by prosecuting people with phony numbers.
In Nashville, more than 20% of all applicants for drink-serving permits are submitting Social Security numbers that either don't exist or belong to somebody else, said Danielle Elks, executive director of the Tennessee ABC.
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"There's a problem out there, and this is just a small piece of it," Elks said. "But what we are doing is very specific to our agency."
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ABC requested training by Treasury officials on how to spot fake documents. They got access to a Social Security database to double-check numbers. Elks began sending the names of applicants with phony documents to immigration officials but stopped because immigration was "overworked and undermanned."
Lacking a large field staff, the Bureau of Customs and Immigration Enforcement focuses on illegal immigrants with felonies, immigration officials said yesterday.
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Why can't the IRS cross-reference SS#'s and names on tax documents with the SS Administration?
My best guess (and that's all it is, just a guess) is that the agencies are not allowed by law to do that, perhaps out of privacy concerns. Or maybe it's budget constraints. Heck, maybe it never occurred to them to cooperate with each other.
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