Posted on 08/04/2004 8:09:20 PM PDT by Destro
You can not have Democracy without the demos having the right to be armed. Athens would not have been the first democracy if it did not have its hoplite class.
That those in our State Dept seem not to know what a democracy means is not suprising seeing as the State Dept has favored Islam over Christians these last 60 years and compliant strong men over democratic regimes. There is no American in the State Dept who has a clue about how to create democratic institutions and hasn't been since the end of WW2.
Lastly, I mean what I wrote when I said the State Dept has favored Muslims 100% of the time in world conflicts where conflict between Muslims and non-Muslims happened since the end of WW2.
It's mainly because Syria is a Secular dictatorship. Many don't realize that Iraq under Saddam was safer than any form of Islamic government even an Islamic Democracy. The only form of governments where Mid-East Christians are safe are pro-West governments like the Shah of Iran which emphasized the glory of the Persian Empire [pre-Islamic Iran] or Secular Democracy [of which we haven't seen form yet in the region].
Right you are, freedom44. Good job blasphemer-in-chief Bush who worships Allah. Your stupid war on Iraqis has made life hell for Iraqi Christians.
You're an imbecile of the first order. Can I say that here?
Do a Google search, keywords: "Chaplain, Iraq, July or August, 2004"...
A widespread viewpoint that conflicts with the agenda of those reporting the "news":
{ Former chaplain reflects on Iraq’s lessons
google search the plight of Iraqi Christians @ http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&ie=ascii&q=Iraq+Christians
It's more than that. Syria is a secular dictatorship whose ruling elite is drawn from a religious minority: the Assad family are Alawites, members of a semi-Christianized sect of Shia Islam (they celebrate some Christian feasts as well as the usual Shi'ite festivals, and take Christian-sounding named, Bashir is the Arabic version of Basil or Vassily). As such they make a point of treating other religious minorities (including Christians) well as a counter-balance to the majority Sunni.
Sadly, the part about Iraqi Christians is true. The part about the war being stupid, I believe to be false. We went in there because Saddam was developing WMDs, and was in bed with Al Qaeda. The war was justified. Okay, don't believe there was a drop of bleach in Iraq, let alone enough poison to kill 5000 kurds? Fine. Then look at it from a geopolitical perspective. We send the message to the Middle East, you mess with the USA and we will overthrow your nation. But nontheless, I believe the stated purpose for the Iraq war is legitimate.
I will say this much, though; it sound positively bizarre that anybody would flee to Syria for safe haven. I mean, "Syria" sounds like "Hezbollah" or "Islamic Jihad" country, not a safehouse for Christians. Go figure.
NYT would be the source of this in order to show any spin of defeat. Bad they are fleeing but never loose sight of the NYT spin.
Correct me if I'm wrong,Is the US state dept so strong that it gets it way everywhere it wants?to hard to digest.Is it coz of the State dept that the US was(or is mostly) in bed with the Saudis,Egyptians & Pakis-find that real real hard to believe-it is afterall,one of the arms of a form of government with a very powerful president.
Or are people here picking on the state dept because it's a convinient scape goat??
"will say this much, though; it sound positively bizarre that anybody would flee to Syria for safe haven"
when u got a bunch of wackos out &hellbent to blow u up,the first thought is not on going around to the US 0r UK embassies to get travel visas.They're trapped between a rock & a hard place-what do u expect them to do.The Iraqi action is no different from what French jews did when they emigrated to Poland & Holland when Hitler came to power,only to find him there in 1939.
Well from what Ive heard about Syria-u don't have the brute religious persecution of minority communities there that you can associate with US "allies" like Egypt & those in the Persian gulf.Syria is pretty much a logistics sponsor of terror-no intellectual Mullah firepower.THe Hezbollah get their arms from Syria while Iran pumps in money & ideology.
Unless Syria is the next stop of the US juggernaut,these Christians should be relatively safe there.
Prsidents come and go but the State Dept is forever.
Err-I find that too hard to believe-don't tell me that the White house has no role in what the state dept does.
agendas are not made in teh state dept or the White house but by those behind the scenes/
Say it, it is obviouly a lurker who was waiting to jump in...a foreigner who is aligned left.
Time to "liberate" Syria and chase Christians out.
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