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CA: GOP group plans bill to bar aid for illegal immigrants (California Republican Assembly)
Sna Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 8/4/04 | Michael Gardner - Copley News Service

Posted on 08/04/2004 9:15:47 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO – Moving to capitalize on lingering resentment over legislative efforts to grant driver licenses to undocumented aliens, some Republicans plan to launch a broad initiative campaign aimed at barring those in California illegally from collecting welfare, college scholarships or food stamps.

The measure, targeted for the March 2006 ballot, also would pre-empt any legislation to allow illegal immigrants to gain driver licenses.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who persuaded the Legislature to repeal such a law, is negotiating a compromise measure with Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, but no deal has been struck.

"We have to stop the incentives for coming here illegally. This is the only way to do it. The Legislature cannot be trusted," said Mike Spence, president of the California Republican Assembly, a conservative grass-roots faction of the GOP.

The initiative is a narrowed version of the polarizing Proposition 187 approved by voters in 1994.

The courts and mediation later invalidated much of Proposition 187, allowing children of illegal immigrants to attend school and receive medical care.

Spence said the new initiative would exempt those services required by the courts.

Moderate Republicans have worked to mend seriously damaged relations with Latino voters, many of whom viewed Proposition 187 as a direct attack. A "son of 187" could attract conservatives, but erase GOP gains among Latinos as early as this November's election.

If approved by voters, the initiative would bar undocumented immigrants from collecting retirement, welfare, unemployment or disability checks. They would not qualify for housing subsidies or food stamps. And they would no longer be eligible for cheaper in-state college tuition or receive loans and scholarships.

"This is a time for us to bring our country together and look for ways to build unity, not division," Cedillo said when asked about the initiative.

"Immigrants are not here for services. They're here to work," he said.

Spence said that the state is broke and cannot afford to provide services to those who crossed the border illegally.

"It's more than the driver's license," he said. "We're running deficits."

Spence is expected to be joined by Assemblyman Mark Wyland, R-Del Mar, in unveiling the initiative today in Sacramento. They need about 600,000 signatures of registered voters to put the measure on the ballot.

Spence's group has proven it has the capability to follow through. It collected more than enough signatures on a referendum to overturn a driver-license bill signed by then-Gov. Gray Davis. The referendum was dropped after Davis' recall and Schwarzenegger's historic election. Schwarzenegger repealed the law soon after his election.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: baraid; calgov2002; california; cra; gopgroup; illegals; illegalsimmigrants; plansbill; saveourlicense
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To: NormsRevenge

"Republicans plan to launch a broad initiative campaign aimed at barring those in California illegally from collecting welfare, college scholarships or food stamps."

Oh goody, I am sure our Canadian governor, Jennifer Grandstand, will welcome all those turned away by California to our already jobless state of Michigan.


21 posted on 08/04/2004 10:55:03 AM PDT by RepublicanHippy
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To: NormsRevenge

Gee... I dunno.

The "civil rights" groups and illegal alien supporters might call us names like "racist".

We don't want to be called names, that's just SO mean! </ s>


22 posted on 08/04/2004 10:57:43 AM PDT by StoneColdGOP (Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault...)
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To: NormsRevenge

About time.


23 posted on 08/04/2004 11:26:49 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: NormsRevenge




"This is a time for us to bring our country together and look for ways to build unity, not division," Cedillo said when asked about the initiative.

"Immigrants are not here for services. They're here to work," he said.

Then no one should object to denying them services.


24 posted on 08/04/2004 11:30:50 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; NormsRevenge
>>>Spence said that the state is broke ...

Obviously some Californians haven't gotten the message yet.

25 posted on 08/04/2004 11:54:03 AM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: heleny; NormsRevenge
I hope this initiative constitutional amendment petition is successful. The last "save our state" or so-called "son of 187" initiative petition earlier this year failed for lack of signatures.

Why? Lack of time? Lack of interest? Lack of organization? Lack of money? Badly written?

I remembering seeing some posts about "son of 187" back around February on alt.politics.immigration. I was wondering what happened to it.

Any reason to think this one will do any better?

26 posted on 08/04/2004 12:01:42 PM PDT by bam
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To: NormsRevenge

Prop 187 was polarizing? Didn't it pass by a 2-1 margin?

Good, I was hoping the "son of 187" would be proposed.


27 posted on 08/04/2004 12:08:38 PM PDT by hattend (I'm on the Mark Steyn Ping List! I'm somebody!)
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To: NormsRevenge; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; ...

"SACRAMENTO – Moving to capitalize on lingering resentment over legislative efforts to grant driver licenses to undocumented aliens, some Republicans plan to launch a broad initiative campaign aimed at barring those in California illegally from collecting welfare, college scholarships or food stamps."

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What's up with this - B4Ranch - you been making more phone calls?

:~)

28 posted on 08/04/2004 12:12:22 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Interesting.


29 posted on 08/04/2004 12:18:54 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: SierraWasp
This just might make your mood permanent.
30 posted on 08/04/2004 12:24:31 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: Happy2BMe

What? Who me? Of course not!


31 posted on 08/04/2004 2:05:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch (----http://www.firearmsid.com/----"Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from the wise.")
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To: NormsRevenge

cf:

The U.S./Mexican Border Has Become a Sieve of Death
http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,SOF_0804_Mexico,00.html?ESRC=dod.nl


32 posted on 08/04/2004 2:09:45 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (clog the sieve with guacamole sauce and cheese)
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To: Happy2BMe; NormsRevenge; farmfriend

Think the Watts riots were a specticle of public disobediance.

If this passes and Arnie signs it, Watts will look like a few 10 year old girls getting a little rowdy at a sleep-over party.


33 posted on 08/04/2004 2:18:28 PM PDT by B4Ranch (----http://www.firearmsid.com/----"Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from the wise.")
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To: farmfriend; SierraWasp
This just might make your mood permanent.

LOL

34 posted on 08/04/2004 2:28:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "The terrorists will be defeated, there can be no other option" - Colin Powell)
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To: Happy2BMe

Let me say that I'll believe this when I see it. Actually, the Republicans are sitting on a gold mine of votes, if only they would do something about open borders and illegal aliens. But alas.....


35 posted on 08/04/2004 3:13:40 PM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: dalereed

I posted it again... before I noticed this thread:

Save Our License Initiative Will Stop Government From Giving Benefits To Illegal Aliens
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1185131/posts


36 posted on 08/04/2004 3:23:07 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: swampfox98; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; ...
If we sit here and believe the guhmint is going to cut off cheap labor (irregardless of who sits in the Oval Office) and halt the historical profits corporations are making off the backs of Mexican labor - we're all living in a wet dream.

Politicians look at the necessary manpower, resources, and money it would take to seal the border (and halt the Mexican labor flow) and bounce it up against the political hit they would take in their coffers come election season and WAHLAH - NOTHING HAPPENS - STATUS QUO.

37 posted on 08/04/2004 4:38:07 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: B4Ranch; swampfox98; NormsRevenge; farmfriend; JackelopeBreeder; Sabertooth; dennisw; JohnHuang2; ..
B4Ranch: "(Compared to the Watts riots) . .If this passes and Arnie signs it, Watts will look like a few 10 year old girls getting a little rowdy at a sleep-over party."

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The feds we all know of course are going to whack this right in the pee-pee before it reaches critical mass.

From the proposition: "Republicans plan to launch a broad initiative campaign aimed at barring those in California illegally from collecting welfare, college scholarships or food stamps."

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This mentions nothing about public housing, free medical care, free public grade-level and associate-level free education to mention but a few areas where a massive illegal population drains the state's resources.

Even if it gets to print, all it takes is ONE FEDERAL DISTRICT JUDGE (the "Oligarchy" - remember) to whack the pee-pee of millions upon millions or American citizens exercising the only voice in government they have - their votes.

Back to square one before we even get off first base.

38 posted on 08/04/2004 5:20:49 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Sadly true.... activist judges have hijacked the rights of the people....


39 posted on 08/04/2004 5:25:53 PM PDT by antceecee (quoth Teyreza "Shove it" ...Michael Moore!)
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To: NormsRevenge
CA: GOP group plans bill to bar aid for illegal immigrants (California Republican Assembly)

Bush isn't going to like that.

40 posted on 08/04/2004 5:31:06 PM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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