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To: heleny; NormsRevenge
I hope this initiative constitutional amendment petition is successful. The last "save our state" or so-called "son of 187" initiative petition earlier this year failed for lack of signatures.

Why? Lack of time? Lack of interest? Lack of organization? Lack of money? Badly written?

I remembering seeing some posts about "son of 187" back around February on alt.politics.immigration. I was wondering what happened to it.

Any reason to think this one will do any better?

26 posted on 08/04/2004 12:01:42 PM PDT by bam
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To: bam
Why? Lack of time? Lack of interest? Lack of organization? Lack of money? Badly written?
I remembering seeing some posts about "son of 187" back around February on alt.politics.immigration. I was wondering what happened to it.
Any reason to think this one will do any better?

The time and signature requirements will be the same. Perhaps they will be more successful this time if they have a better idea of what to expect. But, maybe they'll again be overshadowed, this time by the upcoming general election campaign for the next three months; there are 14 propositions on this ballot.

Money and media exposure were definitely different in 1994. There was no support from the GOP for the expired effort this year, unlike in 1994 when the GOP helped financially (for the statutory initiative, which required only 5% of the last vote for Governor) and when Governor Pete Wilson campaigned strongly for it.

This year there was no money for paid signature gatherers or ads, since the GOP is different today, but perhaps the SOS people had been too optimistic about eexpecting any GOP support. Without much exposure, there wasn't sufficient interest.

The website of the expired effort doesn't have the information anymore http://www.save187.com/. Ron Prince was the author of the original 187 and this year's earlier SOS effort. I doubt there were problems with the writing; besides, even if there were, it probably wouldn't have affected the signature gathering much.

59 posted on 08/05/2004 1:06:38 AM PDT by heleny
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