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Senator wants to ban P2P networks
News.com ^ | 07/22/04 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 08/03/2004 12:12:27 PM PDT by JusticeTalion

The chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary said Thursday that a ban on file-trading networks is urgently required but agreed to work with tech companies concerned that devices like Apple Computer's iPod would be imperiled.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said he intended to move ahead with the highly controversial Induce Act despite objections from dozens of Internet providers and Silicon Valley manufacturers. The Induce Act says "whoever intentionally induces any violation" of copyright law would be legally liable for those violations.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: boxer; cd; constitution; copyright; dvd; file; freedom; hatch; induce; p2p; privacy; sharing; speech; technology
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Whoa! Hold the phone! I can be criminally prosecuted for telling a friend I use JoeBlow CD Maker to copy my legally owned CD's and DVD's!?!?!? I think Senator Hatch has developed a serious hole in the marble bag. And Senator Boxer introduced this vague piece of flotsam! Makes me ashamed to be from California. Let's make some noise and remind our esteemed senators of little thing called freedom of speech as guaranteed by the US Constitution.
1 posted on 08/03/2004 12:12:31 PM PDT by JusticeTalion
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To: JusticeTalion

Hatch is a maroon when it comes to puters and the net.


2 posted on 08/03/2004 12:16:06 PM PDT by visualops (We're sorry, all taglines are currently busy. Please hang up and try again later.)
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To: visualops

Hatch is, unfortunately, dead wrong on this issue.


3 posted on 08/03/2004 12:17:27 PM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: JusticeTalion

Hatch is an idiot - he must have taken some huge cash payments from the big media companies to be running with this.


4 posted on 08/03/2004 12:17:53 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: JusticeTalion

IIRC, this is the same 'Republican' who previously suggested creating some kind of virus that would *destroy* a person's computer if there was copyright-infringing content deemed to be on it.


5 posted on 08/03/2004 12:18:19 PM PDT by Sloth (John Kerry: Frank Burns with Charles Winchester's pedigree.)
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To: visualops

Hatch has just seemed to be off his rocker for the last 2 or 3 years. There's his whole lockdown of the Internet thing and his refusal to play hardball with democrats on judicial nominations. He hasn't really done anything of worth in his current term as a senator.


6 posted on 08/03/2004 12:18:37 PM PDT by Oblongata
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To: JusticeTalion

Yawn, Another competely uneforceable law that will be largely ignored


7 posted on 08/03/2004 12:20:53 PM PDT by apillar
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To: JusticeTalion

Yawn, Another competely uneforceable law that will be largely ignored


8 posted on 08/03/2004 12:22:13 PM PDT by apillar
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To: JusticeTalion

Yawn, Another competely uneforceable law that will be largely ignored


9 posted on 08/03/2004 12:22:17 PM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar

Whoops sorry for the multiple posts :0


10 posted on 08/03/2004 12:22:52 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Sloth

Found it:

...The hearings discussed a proposed bill that would have allowed copyright holders to legally hack the computers of people who are illegally downloading files. Randy Saaf of MediaDefender Inc. was trying to dismiss criticism of such proposals by saying that "No one is interested in destroying anyone's computer." At which point Hatch begged to differ,

"I'm interested," Hatch interrupted. He said damaging someone's computer "may be the only way you can teach somebody about copyrights." The senator, a composer who earned $18,000 last year in song writing royalties, acknowledged Congress would have to enact an exemption for copyright owners from liability for damaging computers. He endorsed technology that would twice warn a computer user about illegal online behavior, "then destroy their computer." "If we can find some way to do this without destroying their machines, we'd be interested in hearing about that," Hatch said. "If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines. If you have a few hundred thousand of those, I think people would realize" the seriousness of their actions, he said.

"There's no excuse for anyone violating copyright laws," Hatch said...


11 posted on 08/03/2004 12:23:04 PM PDT by Sloth (John Kerry: Frank Burns with Charles Winchester's pedigree.)
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To: RealPiedPiper

Hatch is from Utah... What are they gonna do in Utah, elect a democrat? Haha. Sad that the more entrenched the Republican is in a state the more that senator is unrepresentative of the base IMHO.


12 posted on 08/03/2004 12:24:44 PM PDT by Odyssey-x
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To: JusticeTalion

I wonder if Hatch even knows what a peer-to-peer network is.


13 posted on 08/03/2004 12:26:31 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: Odyssey-x

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What are they gonna do in Utah, elect a democrat?
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Yeah. Utah would never elect a Democrat senator, like, say, Wayne Owens.


14 posted on 08/03/2004 12:28:56 PM PDT by frgoff
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To: JusticeTalion

Hatch is a moron.

Without the p2p networks, I would not have found wonderful Sept. 11 tributes.

Without the p2p networks, I would not have found lots of things that are not illegal.

Not everything on them is a violation of copyright.

Hatch, go F yourself in the word of our vice president.


15 posted on 08/03/2004 12:33:34 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: JusticeTalion

I will support any Utah Conservative Republican who is willing to run against the RINO Orin Hatch.


16 posted on 08/03/2004 12:38:01 PM PDT by Militiaman7 ( Viva Cuba Libre!)
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To: JusticeTalion

Orrin Hatch is bought and paid for by the entertainment industry, the MPAA and RIAA, just as solidly as is Fritz Hollings (D-Disney). He is quite possibly the most hostile legislator in Congress regarding the rights of consumers to actually use media products that they buy like movies and music. He's dancing to the tune of the big media conglomerates.

Not that many Congresscritters "get it." The most prominent one that does is Rick Boucher (9th District, Virginia)...unfortunately he's a Rat, but he represents a tech-savvy district (southwestern Virginia, anchored by Virginia Tech) and is very much for allowing consumers to have freedom with their bought-and-paid-for movies and CDs, while restricting piracy.

}:-)4


17 posted on 08/03/2004 12:38:43 PM PDT by Moose4 (Remember, change your tagline every 3 months or 3,000 posts, whichever comes first.)
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To: Moose4

I don't know what the chances are of this passing.....from what I recall, this stuff has a lot less of a chance in the House.


18 posted on 08/03/2004 12:42:16 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: JusticeTalion

Some one in the industry has their hand in their pockets...no statement = no paycheck for them...plain and simple truth of the matter...


19 posted on 08/03/2004 12:43:49 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: JusticeTalion

before this you were PROUD to be from california? (only kidding :) )


20 posted on 08/03/2004 12:44:16 PM PDT by KOZ. (i'm so bad i should be in detention)
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