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More Kerry Facts The Media Will Not Disclose
BushCountry.org ^ | 08/02/04 | Dan Cross

Posted on 08/02/2004 8:25:56 PM PDT by justme346

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To: bitt
Kerry claims he was born on Collard Radio.

If he was in fact born in France, then what we have is an imposter claiming false citizenship.

WOW!

21 posted on 08/02/2004 9:02:03 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!!!)
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To: justme346
John Kerry's maternal grandfather, James Grant Forbes, was born in then American occupied Shanghai, China...

Interesting, John Kerry's Grandfather was not born until after World War II when the United States occupied Shanghai.

That is really strange since John Kerry was born in 1944 at least a year before his grandfather was born!

22 posted on 08/02/2004 9:03:54 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: justme346

Kerry was born in Colorado, but I believe he was raised from a very early age in Europe (France and Switzerland).


23 posted on 08/02/2004 9:04:21 PM PDT by hford02 ((Hold your nose and pull the lever on the right))
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To: justme346

" Due to questions regarding the nature of his wounds, the Kerry campaign released his military records."

Kerry has released only PART of his military/military-medical records. We still don't know, for instance, who originally recommended the Bronze and Silver for Kerry.

The refusal continues despite a formal request by Swift Boat vets for Kerry to make available ALL his records:





Swift Veterans Letter to John Kerry
Tuesday, May 04 2004 @ 10:00 PM PDT

Senator Kerry,

We write from our common heritage as veterans of duty aboard Swift Boats in the Vietnam War. Indeed, you should note that a substantial number of those men who served directly with you during your four month tour in Vietnam have signed this letter.

It is our collective judgment that, upon your return from Vietnam, you grossly and knowingly distorted the conduct of the American soldiers, marines, sailors and airmen of that war (including a betrayal of many of us, without regard for the danger your actions caused us). Further, we believe that you have withheld and/or distorted material facts as to your own conduct in this war.

We believe you continue this conduct today, albeit by changing from an anti-war to a "war hero" status. You now seek to clad yourself in the very medals that you disdainfully threw away in the early years of your political career. In the process, we believe you continue a deception as to your own conduct through such tactics as the disclosure of only carefully screened portions of your military records. Both then and now, we have concluded that you have deceived the public, and in the process have betrayed honorable men, to further your personal political goals.

Your conduct is such as to raise substantive concerns as to your honesty and your ability to serve, as you currently seek, as Commander-in-Chief of the military services.

It is vital that the American public have as much information as possible about candidates for President of the United States. In various ways, you have rightly called upon President Bush to be fully accountable and to provide full disclosure. In the same spirit, now that you are the presumptive nominee of your Party, we believe it is incumbent upon you to make your total military record open to the American people.

Specifically, we the undersigned formally request that you authorize the Department of the Navy to independently release your military records (through your execution of Standard Form 180), complete and unaltered, including your military medical records. Further, we call upon you to correct the misconceptions your campaign seeks to create as to your conduct while in Vietnam. Permit the American public the opportunity to assess your military performance upon the record, and not upon campaign rhetoric.

Senator Kerry, we were there. We know the truth. We have been silent long enough. The stakes are too great, not only for America in general but, most importantly, for those who have followed us into service in Iraq and Afghanistan. We call upon you to provide a full, accurate accounting of your conduct in Vietnam.

Respectfully,

Daniel Aguilar, OSC, USNR-R
Pat Alexander
Roy Alexander*
Robert Anderson, EN2, USN (Ret.)
Kenneth J. Andrews, Lt.*
Arturo Arias, QM2, USN (Ret.)
Daniel V. Armstrong, BM2*
Douglas Armstrong, Capt., USN (Ret.)
Harry Ball, Cdr., USN (Ret.)
Ray Lewis Ballew*
Sonny Barber, USN (Ret.)
John Bare
Alexander Bass*
George "M." Bates*
Richard Beers*
Paul L. Bennett, Cdr., USN*
Edward J. “Lord Mort” Bergin, Capt., USNR (Ret.)*
Henry “Buddy” Berman, QM2*
Herb Blume, Lt.
Barry Bogart, EN2*
Bob Bolger Cdr., USN* (Ret.)
M.T. Boone*
Benny Booth
David Borden*
Carl Bowman
Vern Boyd*
David M. Bradley, LCdr.*
Robert Bradley, Lt. USNR - inactive
Robert “Friar Tuck” Brant, Cdr. USN (Ret.)*
Kenneth Briggs*
Carlyle J. Brown, EN2*
Donald Brown, RD3
Kenneth "Buck" Buchholz, GMM3*
Michael C. Burton
Tom Burton
Joe Cahill, Jr., Lt.*
Jack L. Carlson, Lt., USNR*
James Carter
Billy Carwile, EN3*
Virgil Chambers, RD3
Jack Chenoweth, Capt., USNR, (Ret.)*
William Colgan, RD3*
Bill Collins*
Daniel K. Corbett, Lt., USNR*
James M. Corrigan, QM3*
Terry Cosstello, Capt., USN (Ret.)*
Tom Costarino
Toi Dang, GM3
John H. Davis, Lt.*
William K. Daybert,Cdr.*
James Deal*
Richard Dodson, Capt., USN (Ret.)
John Dooley, Cdr., USN (Ret.)*
Dale Duffield, CWO USN (Ret.)*
Robert G. Elder, Lt.*
George M. Elliott, Capt. USNR (Ret.)*
Bill Eshelman
Claude Farmer, Cdr., USNR (Ret.)
Michael Fasold
William Ferris, Capt., USNR (Ret.)
Wallace Benjamin Foreman, QM1, USN (Ret.)*
William T. Ferris, Capt. USNR (Ret.)*
James Foster, GMG1, USN (Ret.)
William E. Franke, Lt.jg*
Robert L. Franson, BMCS (SW)*
Alfred J. French, III, Capt., JAGC, USNR (Ret.)*
Paul F. Fulcomer, RD3*
Ray Fuller, GMG3*
Steve Fulton, Cdr., USN (Ret.)*
Mike Gann, Capt., USNR (Ret.)*
Steve Gardner*
Bill Garlow*
Les Garrett*
Tony Gisclair, BOSN2*
Robert Gnau, QM2*
Donald Goldberg*
Morton Golde, Cdr. USN (Ret.)*
Kenneth Golden*
Gerald L. Good, Lt. USN*
Roy Graham
John C. Graves*
Charles E. Green, ENCM, USN (Ret.)*
Dennis L. Green, GMG*
H.C. Griffin, Jr., Lt. USNR*
I.B.S. (Boyd) Groves, Jr.*
Charles R. Grutzius, Capt. USNR (Ret.)*
F.L. Skip "Mustang Sally" Gunther, Lt. USN*
Bill Halpin, Lt. USNR (Ret.)*
Don C. Hammer, Lt.*
Rock Harmon*
Keith C. Harris, RD2*
Stewart M. Harris, Lt., USN*
Stirlin Harris, BM2*
Gene Hart, RD3*
Bob Hastings*
Curt Hatler*
John Hecker, RD3*
Chuck Herman, RD3*
Raul Herrera*
Tom Herritage*
Grant "Skip" Hibbard*
Bill Hickey
Rocky Hildreth*
Gary Hite
Jim Hoffmann, RD3
Roy Hoffmann, Adm., USN (Ret.)*
William P. Holden, Capt., USN (Ret.)*
Wayland Holloway, Lt. USNR*
Duane Holman, QM2
Robert Hooke, Lt.*
Bill Hoole
Andy Horne*
John Howell*
Warren Hudson*
Charles W. Hunt, EN3*
Robert Hunt*
Gail E. "Ike" Ikerd, Cdr. (Ret.)*
Bert Jeffries, QM3
Richard Jenkins
John Paul Jones, QM3*
Tom Jones*
Eddie Kajioka ENCS, USN (Ret.)*
John L. Kipp, Cdr., USN (Ret.)*
Thomas H. Klemash*
Kenneth Knipple, EN1*
Robert Koger, QM2*
Mike Kovanen, RD3*
Bob Kreyer, GMG2*
Jack K. Lane, GMG3*
William T. Langham*
William Lannom*
Alan Lapat
Joseph R. Lavoie, II CWO2 (BOSN), USN (Ret.)*
Louis Letson, LCdr., USN (Ret.)*
Jim Madden, RD3*
William S. Mann, Jr., Lt.jg*
Jim Marohn, GMG3*
Douglas Martin, Lt. USNR*
Tom Mason, Lt.*
Donald Matras, EN2 (Ret.)*
Thomas Mason, Lt.*
Louis Masterson*
Donald Matras, EN3
Richard McFarland, Lt. USNR*
Kenneth B. McGhee*
James McNeal, ENC*
Errol Meleander, Cdr., USN (Ret.)*
Jack Merkley, Lt.*
James M. Miller*
John Miller, ENC (Ret.)
Martin Miller, ENC (Ret.)*
Marc Milligan, GMG2*
Benjamin A. Montoya, QM3*
Edward Morgan, Capt. USN*
Edgar (Ed) M. Morrill, Jr.*
Tom Morrill, EN3*
Wayne H. Moser*
Kurt Moss, Lt. J.G.*
Frank Mueller*
Marc Milligan, GMG2*
Ed Mundy*
Van Odell, GMG1
Richard Olsen, Lt.*
Richard O'Mara, RD2, USN
John O'Neill, Lt., USN, (Ret.)*
Albert Owens*
Tedd Peck, Capt. USNR (Ret.)*
James Penkert, ENC
Thomas Petersik
Robert Phalen, GMG2*
Charles Plumley*
Joseph L. Ponder, GMG-2, USN (Ret.)*
Chuck Rabel*
Bob Reller
Steve Renfro, RD3, USN (Ret.)
Frank Rockwell
Bill Rogers, Lt.*
Patrick Sage GMG3*
Gary W. Sallee, BM2*
Burke Salsi, RD2
Joe Sandoval, GMG3*
Jimmy W. Sanford, RD3*
Robert Scattergood*
Jim Schneider, EN2*
Clair J. (Pete) Schrodt, Capt. USN (Ret.)*
Jack Shamley*
Patrick Sheedy, Cdr., USN (Ret.)*
Paul Shepherd, QM2*
Robert B. Shirley, Lt.jg*
William Shumadine*
Stanley G. Simonson, GMG2*
John Singleton, ENC
Darryl Skuce, GMG2*
John J. Skura*
Gerald H. Smith*
Bob Smith, GMG2
Gerald Smith
Roy Smith*
B. Tony Snesko BM2*
Mike Solhaug*
Dennis Spranger
Jack Spratt, LCDR*
David R. Stefferud, Capt., USN (Ret.)*
James Steffes*
Fred E. Stith, USN (Ret.)*
Lawrence Stoneberg, Lt. USN (Ret.)*
Weymouth Symmes, RDM*
Tony Taylor
W.P. "Sonny" Taylor*
Dewey Thedford
James P. Thomas*
Eldon Thompson, Lt.jg*
Larry Thurlow, Lt.jg
Joseph Timmons, RD3, USN
Charles R. Tinstman, ENC*
Gary E. Townsend*
William F. Trainer*
Michael Turley, BM2*
Chris J. Vedborg, RD3*
Jeffrey M. Wainscott, Lt.jg*
David Wallace*
Greg Ward, EN2*
Larry J. “Waz” Wasikowski, Cdr. U.S. Naval Reserve*
Pete Webster*
Robert T. Wedge, Jr., QM1, USN (Ret.)*
Steven Weekley, GMG, QM3*
George Wendell, En1, USN (Ret.)
Bruce Wentworth, Lt., USNR
George H. White, II*
R. Shelton White, Lt.*
Gary K. Whittington, EN3*
James D. Wiggins*
Tom Wilkins
Thomas A. Withey, Lt.*
Bernard Wolff*
Thomas W. Wright, Cdr., USN (Ret.)*
John Wyatt, GMG*
John Yeoman, Lt.*

Ex Officio (other military):

Ross Barker, Capt. USN (Ret.)
Joe Cantrell, Lt.jg, USNR
Allan Clapp, ETR3, USN
George Clatterbuck, CMSgt. USAF, Ret.
Tony DeLuna
David Desiderio, Cdr., USCG (Ret.)
Verne DeWitt, MR1
Jim Fitzgerald
Monte Gluck
Don Higgins
Larry Hobson
Robert Johnson
Walter Jones, USMC
Adrian Lonsdale, Capt., USCG (Ret.)
David P. Marion, CPT Infantry, US Army*
Larry Meyer*
Benjamin A. Montoya, QM3*
Denny O'Brien
Cordelia Ogrinz, in memory of her brother Alexander J. Ogrinz, III, Lt.*
Rex Rectanus, VADM, USN (Ret.)*
Skip Ridley*
Jennings Rogerson II, Capt. USMC* (Ret.)
John Slagle, Special agent, USBP (Ret.)
Patrick Stevenson, Army Special Forces (Ret.)
Emmett Tidd, Vice Admiral, USN, (Ret.)*
Steve Watts, Army
Dennis D. Willess, EN3, Army Infantry*
Raymond Wroten, SSgt., USMC (Ret.)
James M. Zumwalt in memory of Elmo Zumwalt, Sr. and Elmo Zumwalt, Jr, his father and brother*




* = signed original letter, presented May 4, 2004

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http://www.swiftvets.com/article.php?story=20040629220813790


24 posted on 08/02/2004 9:05:24 PM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: smoothsailing

Not only was Kerry born in France but he was born after his grandfather!


25 posted on 08/02/2004 9:05:24 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: justme346

kerry visit as a child the the eastern part of germany i find hard to believe.
My mom is from Germany and lived under the American Sector and up until the time she left in 1960 (and I dont know when Kerry was there) but before the wall came down it was very diffucult to get to the Eastern Block.
Think about it no matter what the time was An American child, father is a US offical and he is able to get into the East part, I find this hard to believe.


26 posted on 08/02/2004 9:05:58 PM PDT by RightWingBev
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To: Eva

If you are born to American citizens on government assignment overseas, it is the same as being born here. Not sure if it is just the military...


28 posted on 08/02/2004 9:11:00 PM PDT by DmBarch
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To: justme346

Sean Hannity has talked about some of those votes!


29 posted on 08/02/2004 9:12:40 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: justme346; Howlin; Liz
Has flip-flopped on issues so that his positions are unintelligible.

Turning the undecided voter into simply confused?

30 posted on 08/02/2004 9:12:45 PM PDT by Libloather (What did Bergler stow - and when did he stow it?)
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To: EdReform

BTTT for later


31 posted on 08/02/2004 9:14:44 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: justme346
""Initially, Kerry had hoped to keep a relatively safe distance from most of the fighting by obtaining an assignment as commander of a Swift Boat.""

BIG LIES!! This article is crap if it cannot keep from lies and extreme exaggerations.

kerry has enough garbage in his past where lies do not need to be invented.
32 posted on 08/02/2004 9:15:34 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: pete anderson
KERRY IS GIRLIE MAN HA HA HA


33 posted on 08/02/2004 9:25:58 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!!!)
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To: pete anderson

I thought he married a Forbes and had no blood relationship to them.


34 posted on 08/02/2004 9:26:31 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: DmBarch

No it's not, the same. I have a brother-in-law, or rather had one, that is the same age as Kerry, grew up in Groton, the same town as Kerry, and whose father was also a lifetime bureucrat for the defense dept. The brother-in-law's name is also John, but he was born in Cuba and never had to register for the draft, so he didn't go to Vietnam. The brother in law is every bit the creep that Kerry is, too.


35 posted on 08/02/2004 9:28:34 PM PDT by Eva
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To: WayneM

no, if they are a naturalized citizen no.


36 posted on 08/02/2004 9:31:07 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: justme346

Amen.

This guy (Kerry) now sees the importance of national security since 9/11 put the issue in the publics’ mind. He must tear down Bush while pretending to be strong in that area himself.

Fact is, he's a man without vision, extremely left politically and after having gone national has been trying hard to recreate himself as a more moderate "center" candidate.

http://www.vote-smart.org/

Lists all his accomplishments. Including his vote to cut on SDI and the 87 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan. Now he's telling Americans that Bush is bad because soldiers had to buy their own body armor. The US tried all it could to get as much armor to the troops as possible, but HE IS THE ONE THAT VOTED AGAINST the budget required to make this happen. Then he points his finger at Bush and says that Bush did wrong because the Army supply system can't track every soldier down to the lowest level in a war zone nor Point Blank produce fast enough even if the military is willing to pay whatever the cost. If I were Bush, I'd break that little worms’ finger off and "shove" it where the sun doesn’t shine.

Red6


37 posted on 08/02/2004 9:34:10 PM PDT by Red6
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His singing sucks too.. ;-)

Don't cryyy for me,, FRen'churia...

38 posted on 08/02/2004 9:34:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "The terrorists will be defeated, there can be no other option" - Colin Powell)
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To: Red6
Kerry Knew!

Newsmax


Excerpt: "A few weeks later, Bogdan Dzakovic - former FAA chief of the national airport-security covert Red Team (which conducted special ops in aviation-security matters) - was asked to hand-deliver a videotape to Jamie Wise, a staff person in Kerry's office. He told Wise that the film depicted the ease with which undercover operatives had successfully broken through Logan's security shields with potentially deadly weapons. Not once but 10 times!"

Worldnetdaily


Excerpt: "WASHINGTON - A third federal aviation-security agent, one still with the government, has stepped forward to say he also warned Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry about security lapses at Boston's Logan International Airport before the 9-11 hijackings there.

More!


Excerpt: Jon Leiberman, the Washington bureau chief of Sinclair NewsCentral, reported that on May 7, retired Federal Aviation Administration agent Brian Sullivan wrote Mr. Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, a letter saying the report was just 'the tip of the iceberg' in security problems at the senator's hometown airport.

Mr. Sullivan's letter read in part: 'with the concept of Jihad, do you think it would be difficult for a determined terrorist to get on a plane and destroy himself and all other passengers? ... think what the result would be of a coordinated attack which took down several domestic flights on the same day. The problem is that with our current screening system, this is more than possible. Given time, considering current threats, it is almost likely.'

The two planes that crashed into the World Trade Center on September 11 both took off from Logan Airport, reported the Washington Times.


And Reported on FreeRepublic

THE WARNING KERRY IGNORED

39 posted on 08/02/2004 9:41:35 PM PDT by DocRock
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Come on people, it's not where you were born that determines eligibility for running for President. You must be a natural born citizen, not naturalized like Ahnold!
40 posted on 08/02/2004 9:44:45 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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