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Captured Qaeda Figure Led Way to Information Behind Warning
New York Times ^ | 08/02/04 | DOUGLAS JEHL and DAVID ROHDE

Posted on 08/01/2004 7:50:32 PM PDT by conservative in nyc

August 2, 2004
INTELLIGENCE

Captured Qaeda Figure Led Way to Information Behind Warning

By DOUGLAS JEHL and DAVID ROHDE

WASHINGTON, Aug. 1 - The unannounced capture of a figure from Al Qaeda in Pakistan several weeks ago led the Central Intelligence Agency to the rich lode of information that prompted the terror alert on Sunday, according to senior American officials.

The figure, Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, was described by a Pakistani intelligence official as a 25-year-old computer engineer, arrested July 13, who had used and helped to operate a secret Qaeda communications system where information was transferred via coded messages.

A senior United States official would not confirm or deny that Mr. Khan had been the Qaeda figure whose capture led to the information. But the official said "documentary evidence" found after the capture had demonstrated in extraordinary detail that Qaeda members had for years conducted sophisticated and extensive reconnaissance of the financial institutions cited in the warnings on Sunday.

One senior American intelligence official said the information was more detailed and precise than any he had seen during his 24-year career in intelligence work. A second senior American official said it had provided a new window into the methods, content and distribution of Qaeda communications.

"This, for us, is a potential treasure trove," said a third senior American official, an intelligence expert, at a briefing for reporters on Sunday afternoon.

The documentary evidence, whose contents were reported urgently to Washington on Friday afternoon, immediately elevated the significance of other intelligence information gathered in recent weeks that had already been regarded as highly troubling, senior American intelligence officials said. Much of that information had come from Qaeda detainees in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia as well as Pakistan, and some had also pointed to a possible attack on financial institutions, senior American intelligence officials said.

The American officials said the new evidence had been obtained only after the capture of the Qaeda figure. Among other things, they said, it demonstrated that Qaeda plotters had begun casing the buildings in New York, Newark and Washington even before the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Among the questions the plotters sought to answer, senior American intelligence officials said, were how best to gain access to the targeted buildings; how many people might be at the sites at different hours and on different days of the week; whether a hijacked oil tanker truck could serve as an effective weapon; and how large an explosive device might be required to bring the buildings down.

The American officials would say only that the Qaeda figure whose capture had led to the discovery of the documentary evidence had been captured with the help of the C.I.A. Though Pakistan announced the arrest last week of a Qaeda member, Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, a Tanzanian wanted in connection with the 1998 bombings of American embassies in East Africa, the American officials suggested that he had not been the source of the new threat information.

An account provided by a Pakistani intelligence official made clear that the crucial capture in recent weeks had been that of Mr. Khan, who is also known as Abu Talha. The intelligence official provided information describing Mr. Khan as having assisted in evaluating potential American and Western targets for terrorist attacks, and as being representative of a "new Al Qaeda."

The Pakistani official described Mr. Khan as a fluent English speaker who had told investigators that he had visited the United States, Britain, Germany and other countries. Mr. Khan was one of thousands of Pakistani militants who trained in Afghanistan under the Taliban in the 1990's, the Pakistani official said.

If indeed Mr. Khan was the man whose arrest led the C.I.A. to new evidence, his role as a kind of clearinghouse of Qaeda communications, as described by the Pakistani intelligence official, could have made him a vital source of information. Since his arrest, Mr. Khan has described an elaborate communications system that involves the use of high and low technology, the Pakistani official said.

The question of how much to rely on information obtained from captured foes has always weighed on the intelligence business. In recent weeks, even as they cited accounts from some captured Qaeda members as the basis for new concerns about terrorism, American intelligence officials have acknowledged that another captured Qaeda figure, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, had recanted claims that Iraq had provided training in illicit weapons to Qaeda members.

Mr. Libi's earlier claims had been the primary basis for assertions by President Bush and his top advisers that Iraq had provided training in "poisons and gases" to Qaeda members.

In explaining the decision to call a new terror alert, American officials would say only that the evidence obtained by the C.I.A. after the arrest of the Qaeda figure in Pakistan had provided a richer, more credible source of intelligence than could have been provided by any single individual. They declined to say whether the "documentary evidence" included physical documents or might also include electronic information stored on computers, such as copies of e-mail communications.

The Qaeda communications system that Mr. Khan used and helped operate relied on Web sites and e-mail addresses in Turkey, Nigeria and the northwestern tribal areas of Pakistan, according to the information provided by a Pakistani intelligence official.

The official said Mr. Khan had told investigators that couriers carried handwritten messages or computer disks from senior Qaeda leaders hiding in isolated border areas to hard-line religious schools in Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province.

Other couriers then ferried them to Mr. Khan on the other side of the country in the eastern city of Lahore, and the computer expert then posted the messages in code on Web sites or relayed them electronically, the Pakistani official said.

Mr. Khan had told investigators that most of Al Qaeda's communications were now done through the Internet, the official said. After a message was sent and read by the recipient, the entire communication and related files were deleted to maintain secrecy, he said. Mr. Khan had told investigators that e-mail addresses were generally not used more than a few times.

The young computer engineer, who received a bachelor's degree from a university in Karachi, is the unemployed son of an employee of Pakistan's state airline and a college botany professor, the official said. Heavily built and 6 feet 2 inches tall, he speaks English with a British accent, and was arrested carrying a fake Pakistani identification card.

The Pakistani official said Mr. Khan told investigators that he had received 25 days of training at a militant camp in Afghanistan in June 1998. By the time Mr. Khan had risen to his current position, the official said, Qaeda figures had arranged his marriage and were paying him $170 a month for rent for his house in Lahore and $90 for expenses.

Mr. Khan was in contact with the brother of the Indonesian Qaeda leader Hambali, who was studying in a religious school in Karachi, and who was recently deported. Mr. Khan has told interrogators that his Qaeda handler was a Pakistani he knew as Adil or Imran, who assigned him tasks related to computer work, Web design and managing the handler's messages. His correspondents included a Saudi-based Yemeni, Egyptian and Palestinian nationals and Arabs in unknown locations, and someone described as the "in-charge" in the city of Khost in eastern Afghanistan.

Asked about the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Mr. Khan has told interrogators that even the top Qaeda commanders do not know, the Pakistani intelligence official said.

Douglas Jehl reported from Washington for this article, and David Rohde from Karachi, Pakistan.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allibi; alqaeda; alqaedapakistan; captured; codeorange; douglasjehl; ghailani; jihadinamerica; noorkhan; orange; religionofpieces; slimes; wot
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To: nuconvert; conservative in nyc; Grampa Dave; NormsRevenge; blam; Howlin; McGavin999; onyx; ...
Thanks for the ping.

Scary news, thats for sure.

Pakistan again, Hmmm!
41 posted on 08/01/2004 10:05:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: tiki
Well kinda, yeah. ;-)

I'm actually trying to figure out when/why the terrorism spiked and has continued to grow since 1979. Terrorists always try to blame it on "the Israel thing", but that happened long before 1979, so what was the significance of 1979... anyone know?

(I'm just sooooo tired of seeing every 3rd post mentioning Clinton... ok, that's an exaggeration, but it IS pervasive and unproductive.)

42 posted on 08/01/2004 10:09:12 PM PDT by BagCamAddict (I support my Troops and my President!)
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To: airborne
Yes!! That DOES make me happy! Now could you come to my office and convince the 3.5 (out of 7) bleeding hearts???

One of them, who HATES Bush, wasn't even going to watch Kerry's speech at the DNC the other night!! She's one of the "anyone but Bush" crowd. I asked her if she watched, and she said "Yeah, I got sucked in."

Good grief!! I watched Kerry because it's my duty to be an informed voter and know who I'm voting for and why - so even though I am voting for Bush, I had a responsibility to watch Kerry. She wasn't even going to watch!!!!!!!

So I asked her, how do you think he did? She gushed, of course... "I was really really impressed, I thought he had a commanding presence, and he did a really good job."

I said, "Yeah, I thought he did a good job too. I'm not voting for him, but I thought he did a good job. Too bad they stole that "Hope is on the way" mantra from Cheney's inauguration speech in 2000."

She said "Nooooooooo?!?!?"

LOL Yep.

43 posted on 08/01/2004 10:15:23 PM PDT by BagCamAddict (I support my Troops and my President!)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

44 posted on 08/01/2004 10:20:42 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: conservative in nyc
Why let the bad guys know how we know?

To let them know how close we are coming and to stop the attacks that were planned. Make no mistake, we are not giving out any information that will hurt our efforts, but the big guys need to sweat about what else we have.

45 posted on 08/01/2004 10:45:37 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Republican in CA

we've had the guy for almost 3 weeks before this came out. I suspect they already know their lines of communication have bee compromised


46 posted on 08/01/2004 10:50:47 PM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: conservative in nyc

if you have their email addresses, you know where they are....

perhaps they are dumb and try to report in......if you trace the recipeints DNS number, you could find out pretty quickly where these guys are emailing from, etc.

I think we are going to see roundups soon.


47 posted on 08/01/2004 10:55:51 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: nuconvert

the south african is a different cell supposedly....Ridge said that arrest wasnt gleaned from this information


48 posted on 08/01/2004 11:00:19 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: conservative in nyc
What purpose does it serve to be so specific? Why let the bad guys know how we know?

To see what move they do next?

49 posted on 08/01/2004 11:19:05 PM PDT by Mo1 (Kerry & Edwards .... they will leave no Special Interest Group behind)
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To: luvbach1
I wonder how he was persuaded to divulge this useful information?

The thought of being locked up in a room listening to Barry Manilow tapes is absolutely chilling.

50 posted on 08/01/2004 11:31:09 PM PDT by fso301
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To: BurbankKarl

She is a Pakistani with a FALSE South African passport.


51 posted on 08/01/2004 11:42:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: conservative in nyc; Geist Krieger; B4Ranch; MeekOneGOP; Smartass; potlatch; PhilDragoo; dennisw; ..
Are WE GOOD or what!? - ping.

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ASHINGTON, Aug. 1 - The unannounced capture of a figure from Al Qaeda in Pakistan several weeks ago led the Central Intelligence Agency to the rich lode of information that prompted the terror alert on Sunday, according to senior American officials."

"The figure, Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, was described by a Pakistani intelligence official as a 25-year-old computer engineer, arrested July 13, who had used and helped to operate a secret Qaeda communications system where information was transferred via coded messages.


52 posted on 08/01/2004 11:44:11 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; inkling


53 posted on 08/01/2004 11:45:39 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Tonk can you give me some facts about the fishing vessels having to put survellance cams on their boats as ordered by Homeland Security.

Two vessel owners are ticked because they have to payfor the cams and think if Homeland Security wants them they should foot the bill.

Another smaller boat owner say that the cams are not for terrorists as being specified but to watch the fishermen and their practices, quotas ect. Big Brother.

Then another person said they were meant to assist also with crews that go mad out at sea.

Old time vessel owners are complaining that it is sooo hard now a days to find a crew that is not doing meth. they say in the old days getting the crew back on board due to drinking binges were the worst problems now a days it is druggies.

Can you verify any of these rumors as fact?

I live on the Yaquina Bay in Oregon and I believe you are South of me.


54 posted on 08/01/2004 11:56:02 PM PDT by oceanperch ( 04 Bush.....He will continue to lead America with the Lords Blessing)
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To: conservative in nyc

I think the info came from the female evil-doer who crossed the border into Texas a few days ago.


55 posted on 08/02/2004 12:12:18 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: Southack
When they communicate, they are vulnerable. Intercepting signals is one of the few intelligence tricks that we Americans are good, no, *exceptional* at doing.

Can you imagine how far ahead we would be if Clinton had put an emphasis on the training of Arabic translators?

I think that was one of the anti-terror suggestions contained in the stolen Millenium report.

56 posted on 08/02/2004 12:25:21 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: PUGACHEV
Pehaps because it's a simple way of protecting the target. Once AQ knows that we know that they have targeted a certain location, the opperation involves too much risk to justify its continuation. OTOH, just keeping what we know secret in order to catch AQ in the act, involves too much risk for us, because we might, in fact, miss them.

Gee, that reminds me of the words "Oklahoma City" for some reason.

57 posted on 08/02/2004 12:29:02 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: BurbankKarl
if you have their email addresses, you know where they are....

I would just create a dummy email address; draft an email message at a cyber cafe but don't send it; log off; your partner knows the email address; he logs on at a cyber cafe in Seattle & reads your message from the drafts folder. The account is then never used again.

So, an email address means nothing in terms of locating these operatives.

58 posted on 08/02/2004 3:02:38 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: BagCamAddict

In a world where the other Clinton wasn't planning to make her move in a few years, I might agree.


59 posted on 08/02/2004 3:24:19 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: conservative in nyc
demonstrated in extraordinary detail that Qaeda members had for years conducted sophisticated and extensive reconnaissance of the financial institutions cited in the warnings on Sunday.

Why are they here?

60 posted on 08/02/2004 3:37:56 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Kerry and Edwards aren't catching on. Hope is on the way!)
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