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I fear that this is going to turn into a very dangerous situation.
1 posted on 07/31/2004 2:45:22 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

By my authority as master of my own home I hereby declare that it would be illegal for my neighbor to own his own house without me controlling it. Since I have said this, I am now morally justified in breaking in and beating my neighbor to a pulp. Please do not interfere with my now legal moves, thank you.


2 posted on 07/31/2004 2:51:22 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: wagglebee
I fear that this is going to turn into a very dangerous situation.

Quite possibly so. It's not a situation that can be 'nuanced'.

3 posted on 07/31/2004 2:51:55 PM PDT by tbpiper (Michael Moore…..the Erich von Däniken of political documentary)
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To: wagglebee

It is my opinion that the U.S. should form a coalition with Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea. If anyones attacks any of us, it is an attack on all of us. That would stop Red China's childish postering....maybe North Koreas also?


5 posted on 07/31/2004 3:02:35 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: wagglebee; iamright; AM2000; Iscool; wku man; Lael; international american; No_Doll_i; techwench; ..
Notice that the Dragon we've been feeding has now grown strong; how much American blood will be spilled to pay for cheap trinkets?

The term "Free Traitor" becomes ever more accurate!

If you want on or off my offshoring ping list, please FReepmail me!

6 posted on 07/31/2004 3:07:38 PM PDT by neutrino (Lord, what fools these mortals be! (William Shakespeare, Midsummer Nights Dream))
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Not just for their growing industrial base, but for their population and increasing middle class consumer demands (air conditioning, etc.) China has an energy crunch. While the entire globe is competing for oil (which may becoming more scare) perhaps, in an odd way their industrialzed economy will end up wrecking their economy in the end.


9 posted on 07/31/2004 3:25:20 PM PDT by PersonalLiberties (An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought. -Simon Cameron, political boss)
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To: wagglebee

We would do nothing. The risks are too great. I'm afraid Taiwan is on her own.


10 posted on 07/31/2004 3:29:02 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: wagglebee

Don't fear it.
it is a certitude.
China actually intends to attack as soon as they think WE will blink. We won't.
Bush had them pegged as the center of the AXIS of evil. Draw a line from baghdad, to tehran, to North Korea's capital... and guess who sits in the center?
THEY are the center of the Axis of Evil.
They know it.
We know it. They know that we know it.


Everybody else darkly fears or suspects it.

But the PEOPLE in China may take out their leaders before we find it needful. China CAN be reunified... after they accept the Taiwanese democratic system as their own primary form of National government.


12 posted on 07/31/2004 3:32:44 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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So let me get this straight, all we have to do is that Saudi Arabia, Iran, North Korea, and any other country is ours just because we want to take them out; and this makes it legal? Well, hot dog, lets get to it. If the commies can do it, so can we right? I mean the lefties can't say anything bad about it if their friends over there say it's OK, right?


17 posted on 07/31/2004 4:18:26 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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The first WAR Kerry will declare will be on American gun owners...
He will use Homeland Security and the Patriot Act to accomplish his 3rd Way handler's
goals..
imo


18 posted on 07/31/2004 4:28:33 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: wagglebee

The Taiwan Relations Act allows us to come to the defense of Republic of China (Taiwan).

However, the Taiwan independence movement is to rewrite the constitution and dissolve Republic of China. Do we still have a legal obligation to help them?

The Bush administration has made it clear that they are not in support of Taiwan independence. What's Kerry's position on this issue?


20 posted on 07/31/2004 4:51:15 PM PDT by Fishing-guy (AL)
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Can't help but wonder how Hanoi John would handle the situation if he were President? I would guess he would become the American Chamberlain!


22 posted on 07/31/2004 5:13:53 PM PDT by Joee
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To: AM2000; Arkinsaw; BenLurkin; Dallas59; Fee; Fishing-guy; Iscool; iamright; ...
On Thursday, China for the first time denied that it had set a timetable to reunify Taiwan by force within the next 20 years... Mr Wang Zaixi, vice-director of the Chinese Cabinet's Taiwan Affairs Office... nevertheless stressed that Mr Chen risked war with the mainland if he pushed for a new Constitution by 2008. The island's security lay not in building up an arsenal of missiles and submarines but in offering assurances that Taiwan was not planning to declare independence, Mr Wang said.
Remind you of anyone else?
Concepts of Nationalism, Unity, and the Arab Nation
Federal Research Division
Library of Congress
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U.S. Department of Army
At a broader level, Baath Party ideology reflects the viewpoint of many Syrian citizens in championing pan-Arab nationalism and proposing unification of all Arab countries into one Arab nation stretching from the Atlantic Ocean to the Arabian Sea, transcending what are regarded as arbitrary and artificial borders drawn by Ottoman or European colonial rulers. However, this vision of Arab unity has not been limited to Baathists. Arab unity was the clarion call of most Arab nationalists during the struggles against European colonialism after World War I. Baathist ideology differs from this older sentiment in making socialism an integral element of pan-Arab nationalism.

Although most Syrians support pan-Arabism, some view it negatively. In many respects, the notion of pan-Arab nationalism contradicts Syrian nationalism because Syria would be subsumed in the larger entity and its identity subordinated to that of the new superstate. Aware of this paradox, Syrian officials reserve for Syria a special place in their utopian ideal as the "beating heart" of the Arab nation. However, Syrian religious minorities fear that extreme pan-Arab nationalism would entail Islamic fundamentalism because Islam is an important common denominator of many Arabs and a potential vehicle for uniting the Arab countries. Therefore, religious minorities, particularly Christians, have stridently resisted proposed unification with other Arab nations, while at the same time supporting the notion of a Greater Syria, which includes Lebanon and other areas with a large Christian population. Some minorities oppose unification; for example, Kurds and Assyrians in northeastern Syria have vivid memories of persecution in Iraq, from which they sought refuge in Syria, and naturally oppose being brought again under Iraqi jurisdiction.

Because using Islam as the defining criterion of Arabism is prejudicial to minorities, Syrians have instead emphasized the common cultural heritage of all Arabs. Specifically, the Arabic language is perceived as the root of Arab nationalism. Additionally, the nearly universal antipathy toward Zionism is another factor around which Arabs can rally, regardless of their ethnicity or religion.
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25 posted on 07/31/2004 5:58:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: wagglebee
Some foreign policy pundits might argue that this situation alone justifies re-electing Bush.

The idea of Kerry and his Dimwit crew in charge of such a crisis, as it seems very likely in 3-4 years, does make me nervous.

The Berglar? Allbright? Yeow!!!
27 posted on 07/31/2004 6:52:43 PM PDT by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: wagglebee
Sure. The ChiComs are going to get a "mandate" from the justly derived powers of their legislative branch, whose power is justly derived from the consent of 150% of the freely voting public.

D-Day x 10. Chicoms lose.

30 posted on 07/31/2004 7:10:35 PM PDT by kcar (www.TheUNsucks.com)
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To: wagglebee

Something must be done immediately to diffuse this dangerous situation. We MUST protect the free flow of $49 VCR's!


31 posted on 07/31/2004 7:17:08 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (No animals have been hurt in the making of this tag line)
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To: wagglebee

Don't they need UN authorization or something? ;)


38 posted on 07/31/2004 9:12:10 PM PDT by thoughtomator (John Kerry reporting for duty - making sure that nobody interferes with Hillary's run in 2008)
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To: wagglebee
Looks like the North Korean mushroom cloud show is about over, time to BTTT this topic. :')
67 posted on 09/12/2004 9:55:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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