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Earth-like planets may be more rare than thought
Nature Magazine ^ | 30 July 2004 | Philip Ball

Posted on 07/30/2004 11:12:50 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: RUCKUS INC.

You've obviously never driven a Chevy Nova.


121 posted on 07/30/2004 4:46:00 PM PDT by thoughtomator (End the imperialist moo slime colonization of the West!)
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To: thoughtomator

Beatcha!


122 posted on 07/30/2004 4:47:40 PM PDT by null and void (Freedom is written with blood on the streets, not with ink in congress.)
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To: RUCKUS INC.
The more complex something is, the more random it is?

Yes, that could be said.

123 posted on 07/30/2004 4:47:52 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: thoughtomator

OK, replace Chevy Nova with Ferrari. An Ferrari is more random than a Bike?


124 posted on 07/30/2004 4:54:27 PM PDT by RUCKUS INC. ("Wow, what a crapweasel." - Frank_Discussion)
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To: RightWhale

Why do you believe that?


125 posted on 07/30/2004 4:54:59 PM PDT by RUCKUS INC. ("Wow, what a crapweasel." - Frank_Discussion)
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To: null and void

Doh I must have skimmed right by that!


126 posted on 07/30/2004 4:55:27 PM PDT by thoughtomator (End the imperialist moo slime colonization of the West!)
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To: RUCKUS INC.

Depends on the driver... and your perspective!


127 posted on 07/30/2004 4:58:46 PM PDT by thoughtomator (John Kerry reporting for duty - making sure that nobody interferes with Hillary's run in 2008)
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To: RUCKUS INC.

It's not a belief. It had to do with organization and order. Something with more moving parts would have more degrees of freedom. More degrees of freedom implies more possible configurations at any given time which would lend itself to a stochastic approach.


128 posted on 07/30/2004 5:01:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; sionnsar; anymouse; RadioAstronomer; NonZeroSum; jimkress; ...
Here is the thing, I believe in God, however, God did not just create us. He created a vast universe and to say we are alone is pure BS. The same people with same belief also claimed that the Earth was the center of the universe or the Earth is flat. We don't have the technology to find a Earth like planet yet. Once we do have the technology we will find other planets that is like Earth.


129 posted on 07/30/2004 5:52:24 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: RightWingAtheist
The simpler an object or system is, the more likely it was designed precisely because it is far easier to do so, and allows for greater precision.

Maybe you and Ken Miller can discuss TTSS…

130 posted on 07/30/2004 5:57:20 PM PDT by Heartlander (How odd it is that anyone should not see that all observation must be for or against some view)
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To: ZULU
There is also the "moon factor" which impacts the earths tilt . . .

Just watched a program on the Science Channel about that this week. One astronomer made the point that without the moon the Earth would wobble/roll over on its "side" by perhaps as much as 30 or 40 degrees or more, and considering that a measly wobble of 1 degree was responsible for the creation of the Sahara Desert and mass migration of ancient humans, there is no way humans could have survived such climatological instability and evolved the way we have. It seems humans owe their existence to the moon and the extremely, EXTREMELY improbable type of collision that created it.

131 posted on 07/30/2004 6:15:43 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: TruthInExile
"No need to spend all that research money. All they had to do is read the Bible."

You mean like that part in Joshua where the the folks who wrote the Bible had the sun rotating around the earth?

132 posted on 07/30/2004 6:30:13 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: ECM

I believe it was "privelidged planet", sorry if somebody already told you, i don't feel like looking,.


133 posted on 07/30/2004 6:31:48 PM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: longshadow

Rare placemarker.


134 posted on 07/30/2004 6:32:19 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Since 28 Oct 1999, #26,303, over 192 threads posted, and somehow never suspended.)
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To: PatrickHenry

There was a fairly good discussion here about 2 months ago:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1138670/posts


135 posted on 07/30/2004 6:35:04 PM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: ECM
what "agenda" are you intimating?

Science threads normally devolve into the two camps.

My initial assumption you were referring to "Rare Earth" was based on your choice of the words "a few years back."

I merely observed after checking your profile, and past posts that you had never posted anything indicating that you were an adherent of either camp.

136 posted on 07/30/2004 8:06:07 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: RightWingAtheist

You are correct. A GOOGLE search on "Kolmogorov complexity" gives lots of information. Kolmogorov's version is the easiest to use.


137 posted on 07/30/2004 8:12:56 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Bikers4Bush
All I know is that if space is infinite then there has to be at least one.

I know for a fact there is at least one earth-like planet.

(in fact, it happens to be in this very solar system)

138 posted on 07/30/2004 8:14:26 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: gitmo
Doesn't this last sentence invalidate the premise of the article?

Yes, it does.

139 posted on 07/30/2004 8:16:28 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: ECM


Rare Earth: Why Complex Life Is Uncommon in the Universe
by Peter Ward, Donald Brownlee

This is my current read, already changed my whole outlook on this topic.
140 posted on 07/30/2004 8:35:16 PM PDT by Spirochete
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