i'd eat my yarmulke if that ever happened.
It did happen once. But I'm with you. I don't think it will ever happen again
Posted on 07/29/2004 4:50:51 PM PDT by swampfx
"I pity the man ... "
We should all pity the mentally deranged and or the psychotically evil, but nothing else beyond that for the man. A vicious traitor of the worst sort, a self-hating Jew and anti-zionist Israeli.
"Then they tried the man in a kangaroo court run by Shin-Bet and did God-knows what to him for eighteen years."
so you think maybe he didn't violate the law, and that the big, bad Shin Bet maybe didn't give him milk and cookies at bedtime? He should thank G-d Almighty they didn't put a bullet in his brain and scatter his ashes at sea. Best proof that Israel is perhaps a bit too civilized is that they let men like this live. If they were half the bad guys peopple think they were, non one would even know his name.
Why not? israel was behind that, too, I'm sure. And let's not forget how cleverly they faked the moon landings, or covered up the pramids on mars.
Already posted. Try doing a search before posting next time.
The same thesis, with a great deal of background documentation, is the basis of the book "Final Judgment" by Michael Collins Piper.
Comments by freed nuclear spy Mordechai Vanunu that Israel was behind the assassination of US President John F. Kennedy failed to bring smiles to government officials Sunday.Lou D'cris is probably the source of the story.
Why don't you provide a link to the Jerusalem Post article "Vanunu: Israel behind JFK assassination" that was "Already posted."
Let's see, from this and the other very nasty messages I received I can take it that it's perfectly fine for Israel to kidnap people from sovereign countries...a habit of the Mossad, it would seem. It's also perfectly fine for Israel to lie when they sign treaties with other nations that they'll allow due process when extraditing people (as opposed to kidnapping them). Just curious: would you be okay with all of this if the Mossad accused YOU of a crime and then kidnapped you from the USA to take and try you in a secret star chamber court where you have no defense? I'm not 'anti-Israel' but I sure as hell expect Israel to behave as a civilized country and I sure as hell expect them to honor their word (treaties they don't have to sign) as given to FRIENDLY nations like Italy! They kidnapped the guy from a country where they could've just politely ASKED!!!! That is the very definition of a HOSTILE act against Italy by Israel. I don't disagree with Israel's right to exist, but I truly believe their Mossad agents who kidnapped Mordecai should be prosecuted in Italy for doing so. It's no different than the French Surete thugs who blew up the Greenpeace ship in New Zealand...I don't support Greenpeace, but attacking their ship in a NZ port is an Act of War. Israels' kidnapping Mordecai is similarly such an Act and a flagrant and deliberate disregard for the rights of Italy as a sovereign nation.
Sovereign nation, eh? And what is Israel, if not a sovereign nation?
As a sovereign nation, Israel is permitted to undertake actions deemed necessary for the continued survival and safety of its people.
So they stepped on some Italian toes. well, these things happen, of ocurse, and this is why the gods of diplomacy invented the letter of apology. I do not doubt that Israel would have sought extradition if it was thought the best way to ensure his speedy return; they opted against it, no doubt for reasons of expediency and secrecy. bad enough to have a spy spilling the beans, even worse to have to go through some ritualized legal prceeding in another country to get him back.
"star chamber"? A bit melodramatic, don't you think? I myself would never want to face such a panel, naturally, but then I am unlikely to do anything which could bring me to such a body's attention, unlike poor old Mordechai.
and, in case you hadn't noticed, he's still alive. Better than he deserves, and proof of Israel's humanity.
Within limits,of course.
If Israel deemed nuclear weapons necessary for the continued survival and safety of its people and an American President stood in the way,you are not suggesting actions against the U.S. Constitution would be justified in securing nuclear weapons for Israel, are you?
"...and an American President stood in the way..."
i'd eat my yarmulke if that ever happened.
and, incidentally, on the issue of the american constitution: doesn't apply to Israel, or to any nation other than our own. We could decry all day long any actions any foreigners undertake against it, but, as a practical matter, our ability to do something about it comes down to a question of force. As do, ultimately, all relations between nations. "State of nature' and all that.
With that said, I doubt very much that israel would strike against its only quasi-reliable ally, regardless of circumstances, even as we would not act against our only ally in the mid-east.
It seems to me that Israeli violations of the law of nations bother you quite a bit. tell me, do incursions by Pakistanis into india bother you as much?
i'd eat my yarmulke if that ever happened.
It did happen once. But I'm with you. I don't think it will ever happen again
Free Vanunu!
Free him NOW!
Me thinks you protest very loudly for a newbie. Next you will tell us that some of your best friends are Joos.
You wrote: Me thinks you protest very loudly for a newbie. Next you will tell us that some of your best friends are Joos.
Actually, none of my best friends are Jewish. Not by design, just the way it is. The whole thing with Vanunu stunk. What was wrong with his telling the world that Israel was secretly developing nuclear weapons all while playing the victim card in public? He didn't do it for money.
As far as the snide comment hinting at possible anti-Semitism on my part I can answer that readily by saying that I'm usually far more PRO-ISRAEL than most American Jews. Would you feel the same if Israel kidnapped or assassinated someone in the USA? Is it okay for them to blow up a mosque in the USA if they so desire? If it is wrong for them to do it in the USA then it is also wrong when they do it in Italy or any other country that is *friendly* to Israel.
Why does this bug me? Because I'm tired of Israel getting a pass from Americans who are afraid to condemn their bad behavior for fear of being called an anti-Semite, a Nazi, or whatever. I expect that crap from liberals. I Freep because I hate that crap.
Oh yeah, just 'cuz I have a new screen name doe not make me a newbie. Been here since December 2000.
JFK's fatal head wound: The truth for those who want to know (very graphic)
jmasland.com & others | 11/22/03
Posted on 11/22/2003 5:10:59 PM PST by Wolfstar
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