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Ray Flynn: At the Crossroads of Church and State ["Don't vote for any pro-choice candidates." ]
Catholic Men's Quarterly ^ | August 2004

Posted on 07/28/2004 7:11:21 PM PDT by Antoninus

Following is an interview conducted by Catholic Men's Quarterly of Former Boston Mayor and Ambassador to the Vatican Ray Flynn.

CMQ: You were often called the Lech Walesa of Boston politics. Why?
Flynn:  Lech Walesa is a devout Catholic, a union electrician who led the anti-Communist movement in Poland, who later became president of Poland. I supported him in his cause, including raising money for the striking workers in Gdansk Ship Yard. I was a union dockworker who, like Walesa, knew and admired Pope John Paul II. Walesa and I became good friends through the years.

CMQ: Who are some of the people you most admire and what are some of your interests?
Flynn: My favorite saint is Thomas More. My favorite U.S. president was FDR. I love Broadway musicals and have seen just about every one for the past 35 years. I also love Irish and Italian music. In my lifetime outside of family, I most admire Pope John Paul II, John W. McCormack (former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives), Dorothy Day, Mother Teresa, and Hubert H. Humphrey.

CMQ: You were a great athlete. Who were some of your idols in the world of sports and entertainment?
Flynn: Ted Williams, Johnny Unitas, Jackie Robinson, Sandy Koufax, Willie Mays and Gil Hodges. How much time do you have?  Andrea Bocelli, Connie Francis, and the Ink Spots are my favorite entertainers, and Dr. Zhivago, The Scarlet and the Black with Gregory Peck, and Chicago are my favorite movies.

CMQ: Do you think pro-life Democrats can turn things around in their own party at least to the point where a candidate has a chance to be nominated for President if he is pro-life?
Flynn: The Democratic Party was once the party that welcomed everyone. It was also the party that fought for social and economic justice, working  class families, the elderly, and the needy. Today, it excludes pro-lifers, faithful Catholics, and it has become more like the Republican Party, a party run by the rich and famous elites who are out of touch with people that I represented. No, a pro-life candidate cannot get nominated to be U.S. President in the Democratic Party.

CMQ: What would you like to see the Democratic Party do in the 2004 campaign?
Flynn: Welcome back all traditional, blue-collar, working-class Democrats who stopped voting Democratic because of the party’s extremist position on abortion and its refusal to support Catholic judges who are faithful to their values and beliefs. I’d love to hear it said politically at the Democratic National Convention in Boston that the party is open to everyone once again.

CMQ: What should Democrats who are dedicated pro-lifers do if the Party continues to ignore them or take them for granted?
Flynn: Ignore them. Don’t vote for any pro-choice candidates.

CMQ: What can people who feel abandoned by the Democratic Party do?
Flynn: They can let their elected officials know of their outrage and promise not to support them.

CMQ: Are the bishops who want to hold Catholic politicians accountable for consistently voting against God’s laws on life issues within their rights?
Flynn: The bishops are correct when they call on Catholic politicians to be true to their beliefs and values. These politicians want the Catholic vote on Election Day but then ignore their religious and moral values. The Church needs to take a strong stand against Catholic politicians who are hypocritical in what they say as opposed to how they vote. The bishops struck the right moral balance in their recent policy sanctioning Catholic politicians who consistently vote against pro-life legislation. Such politicians will have no place of honor within the Catholic Church.

CMQ: Though they did say pro-choice politicians should not be honored by Catholic institutions, the bishops decided not to establish a nationwid policy that would exclude Catholic politicians who support abortion from reception of the Eucharist. Did their decision to leave it up to individual bishops disappoint you?
Flynn: Yes, it did. I really think the Church has to speak clearly with one voice on this issue.

CMQ: How important will the Catholic vote be in November?
Flynn: If Bush receives at least 48% of the Catholic vote, he should be re-elected. If the Democrats are perceived as way out on the left on moral and cultural issues, there will be a political backlash against them.

CMQ: What about the Republican party?
Flynn: They have never been the party who speaks for the weak, the needy, or poor and working families. That’s why many Democrats have not quit the party.

CMQ: Thank you very much, Ambassador Flynn, for your time.
Flynn: You’re welcome.

In addition to his other accomplishments, Ray Flynn is the author of two books, the bestseller The Accidental Pope, (written with Robin Moore) published by St. Martins Press and John Paul II, The Pope and the Man.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionlist; ambassador; babykillers; boston; catholic; catholiclist; churchandstate; democrats; demoncrats; dnc; prolife; prolifedems; rayflynn; vatican
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Great interview with Ambassador Flynn.
1 posted on 07/28/2004 7:11:29 PM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Coleus; redhead; american colleen; NYer; ELS; saradippity; AlbionGirl; narses; Maximilian; ...
Former Boston Mayor Ray Flynn lights up the Democrats on Pro-Life and taking Catholic voters for granted. Way to go, Ambassador Flynn!

Ping your lists! Pass it on!

CMQ: What should Democrats who are dedicated pro-lifers do if the Party continues to ignore them or take them for granted?
Flynn: Ignore them. Don’t vote for any pro-choice candidates.

CMQ: What can people who feel abandoned by the Democratic Party do?
Flynn: They can let their elected officials know of their outrage and promise not to support them.
2 posted on 07/28/2004 7:22:18 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Antoninus
The Democratic Party was once the party that welcomed everyone.

Except if you were black down south...or up north for quite a while for that matter. Or if you were of Japanese desent on the west coast. Or of German desent during the first two decades of the 20th century.

It was also the party that fought for social and economic justice, working class families, the elderly, and the needy.

It certainly did fight for them - fought to keep them in exactly the same position and always dependent on the local alderman or ward heeler

Today, it excludes pro-lifers, faithful Catholics, and it has become more like the Republican Party, a party run by the rich and famous elites who are out of touch with people that I represented.

Yup, no doubt about it, it sure is tough to find a middle class regular joe like Franklin Roosevelt who lives in a regular working class neighborhood like Hyde Park thse days...

No, a pro-life candidate cannot get nominated to be U.S. President in the Democratic Party.

Well, he got that right...

3 posted on 07/28/2004 7:23:03 PM PDT by jscd3
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To: Antoninus

Can anyone post an email address for Amb. Flynn?


4 posted on 07/28/2004 7:23:54 PM PDT by Peelod (Perversion is not festive)
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To: Antoninus; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; goldenstategirl; ...

Former Boston Mayor Ray Flynn lights up the Democrats on Pro-Life and taking Catholic voters for granted. Way to go, Ambassador Flynn!

Ping your lists! Pass it on!

CMQ: What should Democrats who are dedicated pro-lifers do if the Party continues to ignore them or take them for granted?
Flynn: Ignore them. Don’t vote for any pro-choice candidates.

CMQ: What can people who feel abandoned by the Democratic Party do?
Flynn: They can let their elected officials know of their outrage and promise not to support them.


5 posted on 07/28/2004 7:26:58 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: Peelod
Check here:

Your Catholic Voice
6 posted on 07/28/2004 7:28:26 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Antoninus
Thanks for the Ping! On another thread it was reported that Zell Miller just said the following on Hannity and Colmes:

'I hope that when Ron Reagan goes back to his hotel room he sees an embryo that was once protected.'

May God Bless Zell and keep him, and all of his kin.

7 posted on 07/28/2004 7:29:18 PM PDT by AlbionGirl
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To: narses

Hard to believe that this guy was a Clinton appointee.


8 posted on 07/28/2004 7:29:29 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Antoninus

Blind pigs. Broken clocks.


9 posted on 07/28/2004 7:31:14 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: AlbionGirl
'I hope that when Ron Reagan goes back to his hotel room he sees an embryo that was once protected.' May God Bless Zell and keep him, and all of his kin.

Guys like Zell Miller and Ray Flynn are desperately needed in the GOP. There's no hope for the Dems. They have become the party of the Culture of Death. The best thing that could happen to that party as it's currently constituted is for it to be defeated into obscurity.
10 posted on 07/28/2004 7:31:40 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Antoninus; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...


11 posted on 07/28/2004 7:32:25 PM PDT by Coleus (Brooke Shields killed her children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: narses
Blind pigs. Broken clocks.

Actually, Ray Flynn has really come around. He's the president of "Your Catholic Voice." Check out their website sometime:

Your Catholic Voice
12 posted on 07/28/2004 7:34:01 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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FR Articles on RAY FLYNN
13 posted on 07/28/2004 7:35:10 PM PDT by Coleus (Brooke Shields killed her children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: Antoninus

You're right! They are without any substance at all.


14 posted on 07/28/2004 7:37:30 PM PDT by AlbionGirl
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To: narses

"Way to go, Ambassador Flynn!"

Gosh yes, he's a great man. His reward WILL be in the next world. I'm so happy of him, he continues to make me proud to be an Irish-American.

And he sticks with that party, I think he really does wish to save their souls. A lesser man would have been out of there long ago. He reminds me of my dad.


15 posted on 07/28/2004 7:56:30 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Antoninus
CMQ: How important will the Catholic vote be in November? Flynn: If Bush receives at least 48% of the Catholic vote, he should be re-elected

65% of Catholics voted for Gore in 2000, lets hope that Bush does get 48%

16 posted on 07/28/2004 8:08:42 PM PDT by apackof2 (Kind words are like honey-sweet to the soul and healthy for the body Pro.16:24)
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To: apackof2
65% of Catholics voted for Gore in 2000

Source?

17 posted on 07/28/2004 8:18:41 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: apackof2
65% of Catholics voted for Gore in 2000, lets hope that Bush does get 48%

That's a weird stat. Where did you see it? Of course, the trouble with the "Catholic vote" is that it often takes into account people who have only seen the inside of a church once or twice in their lives.
18 posted on 07/28/2004 9:04:46 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Antoninus

Ray Flynn said these things and they are not true.

"They [Republicans] have never been the party who speaks for the weak,the needy, or poor and working families. That’s why many Democrats have not quit the party."


19 posted on 07/28/2004 9:32:11 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: Antoninus
Hard to believe that this guy was a Clinton appointee.

Ambassador to the Vatican! Hardly a seat of power or influence in the Clinton admin (and it got him out of the country!).

20 posted on 07/29/2004 1:36:50 AM PDT by maryz
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