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Questions on Second Amendment Rights

Posted on 07/28/2004 4:56:40 PM PDT by French-American Republican

What exactly did the assault weapons ban of Clinton do? What weapons count as assault weapons? Aren't many assault weapons essential to the necessary militias mentioned in the Second Amendment? (I don't know, but I've never heard of a handgun militia.)

Is concealed carry legal anywhere in America? Does the GOP support it?


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1 posted on 07/28/2004 4:56:41 PM PDT by French-American Republican
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To: French-American Republican
Is concealed carry legal anywhere in America? Does the GOP support it?

First step: Join the NRA. The last time I counted, there are about 30 states that allow CCWs. Furthermore, why are you asking these questions?

2 posted on 07/28/2004 5:02:24 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: French-American Republican

If you want answers on concealed carry laws for handguns, the best place by far is:

http://www.packing.org

(Yes, it's legal some in some states. In other states it's legal with a permit.)


3 posted on 07/28/2004 5:02:46 PM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: French-American Republican

Pretty much any semi-automatic rifle that looks "scary" is considered an assault rifle. Concealed carry is legal in a number of states (including CT). I have a worked-over Kel-Tec P11 9mm that I carry concealed daily.


4 posted on 07/28/2004 5:04:39 PM PDT by sc2_ct (This is the way the world ends... not with a bang but a whimper)
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To: French-American Republican

To me, All demonrat speeches are "assault weapons", and weapons of "mass distortion".


5 posted on 07/28/2004 5:06:02 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: French-American Republican
Check this link.
6 posted on 07/28/2004 5:07:16 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: French-American Republican
Legal





Banned


The funny thing is...It's the same gun.

7 posted on 07/28/2004 5:10:42 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: French-American Republican

From the tone of your questions, it sounds like you're not really a "gun person." Do I have that right? That's okay. If you want to become better informed about this topic that's wondeful. I wish more people would get better informed -- it's mostly the ignorant people who want to curtail our bedrock American freedoms.

Joining the NRA is a great first step -- the dues are cheap and the benefits are good. They can hook you up with some hands-on training, if you want it.


8 posted on 07/28/2004 5:11:08 PM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

what the Clinton/feinswine ban did was (beyond all of the material restrictions)further erode the sovereinty of the individual citizen.It contributed to the sheeple mentality of "Oh that looks like something I saw in a movie-QUICK BAN IT& SAVE US ALL!!"...It continued the expansionist tendencies of the government and the various LEO administrators i.e."were exempt because we're..."you get the idea.
Oh,and it created an entirely new,classification that had nothing to do with the mechanical function and definition of a true"assault weapon".This served to further reduce the choices available for those whoreside in states where they may still exercise their rights as recognized by the Founders and the Bill of Rights.


9 posted on 07/28/2004 5:12:03 PM PDT by gripper ("Does this mean we can hit back ,now?")
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To: Cobra64

I just came back from Switzerland a few days ago. AK-47s are legal, and the place is relatively an utopia as far as crime is concerned. So that sort of sparked my interest in the issue. I don't own a firearm myself.


10 posted on 07/28/2004 5:14:26 PM PDT by French-American Republican
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thats like the .223 rifle used by the DC sniper terrorists. Suddenly all .223s were dangerous assault weapons in the eyes of the misguided media.


11 posted on 07/28/2004 5:19:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry is unbalanced)
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To: 68skylark

"From the tone of your questions, it sounds like you're not really a "gun person." Do I have that right? That's okay. If you want to become better informed about this topic that's wondeful. I wish more people would get better informed -- it's mostly the ignorant people who want to curtail our bedrock American freedoms.

Joining the NRA is a great first step -- the dues are cheap and the benefits are good. They can hook you up with some hands-on training, if you want it."

You are right that I am not currently a gun person. I've always been against gun control, but never took much interest until recently.


12 posted on 07/28/2004 5:19:52 PM PDT by French-American Republican
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To: French-American Republican
What exactly did the assault weapons ban of Clinton do?

The 1994 AWB made it illegal to manufacture firearms that fit the definition of "assault weapon" under the 1994 ban.

It did not make the ownership or sale of said weapons illegal, but it did add the mandate of having to fill out a BATF trace form when making a private sale (a requirement usually reserved only for the sale of waepons by lisenced gun dealers). Since, however, the law did not specify where a private seller was to obtain said forms or where it was to be filed, the part of the regs has probably been universally ignored.

What weapons count as assault weapons?

The definition of an assult weapon for purposes of the law was:

-or- -or-

Sorry if there are any inaccuracies in this - I wrote it from memory.

The specific short term impact of the law was three fold:

  1. Manufacturers of rifles that fit into the definition made small modifications to the appearence (removed bayonet lugs, used muzzle brakes instead of flash guards)in order to continue making "legal" rifles
  2. These military style rifles, which had never sold in significant quantities before, started selling in the multi-million unit per year volume range, and
  3. people stockpiled millions of 20-30 round magazines, in order to avoid the ban on manufacture of mags greater than 10 rounds in capacity
All in all, an object lesson in the Law of Unintended Consequences...
13 posted on 07/28/2004 5:20:17 PM PDT by jscd3
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To: Cobra64

There are now, I believe, 37 states that have "shall issue" concealed carry laws. Roughly eight or nine states have "may issue" (which means that only the "connected" get permits), and the balance have no CCW laws at all.


14 posted on 07/28/2004 5:22:55 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: cripplecreek

Rep Caroline McCarthy (D) was speaking at the convention regarding the sunset of AWB. She was really upset :)


15 posted on 07/28/2004 5:25:06 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: French-American Republican

Sounds good. If you're looking for a little training or a little more info, there are a lot of great places to go in your state. Packing.org and the NRA are great first steps. If you come to my state (Indiana) let me know -- we'll go out and plink a few soda cans!

(I think the "gun people" are often a whole lot of fun. If you go to a weekend gun show, or drop by your local shooting range some time, I think you'll enjoy the folks you meet.)


16 posted on 07/28/2004 5:26:44 PM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: sergiod
2A ping

(I mean bang!)

17 posted on 07/28/2004 5:33:38 PM PDT by grellis (No payments, no interest until June 2005! Hurry now and SAVE!)
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To: French-American Republican

Well, French guy living in Miami, all I can say is that if you want to learn how to shoot a gun, in a perfectly safe place, Freepmail me.

I would be happy to answer all of your questions, and if you like, I can show you how to shoot a gun. It is loud, but you wear ear muffs, so it is not loud.

I can teach you in an hour or so, to be safe, and to hit what you are shooting at. I am not an instructor; just a normal American guy.

My offer is valid. I live not far from you.


18 posted on 07/28/2004 5:57:41 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Hillary was in charge of the FBI files, which went into a data base: WHoDB. Genious hackers, expose)
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To: Cobra64
The last time I counted, there are about 30 states that allow CCWs

Way more than that. Only 4 states ban it entirely. Over thirty have "Shall issue" systems whereby if one doesn't have one of small fixed set of dis-qualifiers, (convicted felon, convicted of domestic abuse, non citizen, etc) one must be issued a permit/license to carry a handgun. Some states allow open carry without a permit, others ban it with or without a permit.

19 posted on 07/28/2004 6:16:41 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: French-American Republican
I don't own a firearm myself.

Why not. All Americans should. All males 18-55 are members of the militia, as defined by the federal law, with state laws sometimes expanding on that. In Texas it's all person 18-65 (approximately). You are subject to being called to defend your state or nation, why not be ready? You are also expected to supply your own weapon in many cases, again why not be ready?

Besides shooting is fun.

20 posted on 07/28/2004 6:20:00 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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