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Kerry, Bush in tight race in New Jersey
The Associated Press ^ | 7/28/2004, 11:26 a.m. ET | KATHY HENNESSY

Posted on 07/28/2004 8:58:25 AM PDT by freeperfromnj

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — As the state's top Democrats gather in Boston to nominate John Kerry as the party's candidate, a poll indicates the Democratic challenger is in a virtual dead heat with President George W. Bush among New Jersey voters.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: 2004; kewl; polls
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To: OneTimeLurker

I would think McGreevey's troubles are hurting Kerry in NJ. And there were NJ residents from as far south as Trenton killed on 9/11, so it affected much of the state. However, NJ is also where the Democrats perfected the "knock and drag" program for turning out the black vote, and where they distrbuted flyers in 2000 with a Photoshopped picture of Bush standing in front of a Confederate flag. If it is a neck and neck race in the polls, Kerry will win due to the black turnout effort and vote fraud.


21 posted on 07/28/2004 9:14:10 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Proud to be a Reagan Alumna!)
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To: wideawake
if McGreevey aggressively campaigned for Kerry

I thought McGreedy endorsed the Mad How. heh heh
22 posted on 07/28/2004 9:16:15 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney too.)
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To: Dales; BlackRazor; areafiftyone; marblehead17

Oh my. Kerry +2 in NJ.


23 posted on 07/28/2004 9:17:10 AM PDT by Darth Reagan (your lazy butts are in this too)
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To: Boss_Jim_Gettys

As a warning. The FD poll is the only one that shows Bush ahead. There is the silly Rasmussen poll from the end of June that has Kerry up ten and a Quinnipac poll that has F'n up six. I still say it is a long shot at best.


24 posted on 07/28/2004 9:17:34 AM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Darth Reagan

Among REGISTERED VOTERS no less.


25 posted on 07/28/2004 9:18:27 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: OneTimeLurker
Is Bush visiting or spending any money there?

Commercials are running here. Cheney raised quite a bit of money at a fundraiser here a few weeks ago and I know Bush has been active with the faith based initiative in parts of NJ.

26 posted on 07/28/2004 9:20:21 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Robert Taylor
Originally posted by Robert Taylor:
"They called Florida for Gore 52 minutes before the polls closed but would not call states won by Bush for hours after the polls closed."

The panhandle of Florida is one hour behind the rest of the State, however we can't be like liberals, folks. We have to get our facts straight. You are incorrect trying to say that any of the networks called the race around 52 minutes early that election night; what is correct is the FACT that NBC was the first to make the call for Gore 10 minutes and 20 seconds before the Florida panhandle polls were closed. Here are the on-air times for the network calls for Gore, Retraction of Gore, Bush, and Retraction of Bush for Florida on that election night/morning.

CLOSING    STATE           CBS          ABC        NBC/MSNBC      FOX        VNS       WINNER
======================================================================================================
7:00 PM   Florida:       7:50:11 PM    8:02 PM,   7:49:40 PM*    7:52 PM,   7:52 PM    Gore
           Retraction   10:00:00 PM                                        10:16 PM    Retraction
           Bush          2:17:52 AM    2:20 AM    2:17:30 AM     2:16 AM*              Bush
           Retraction    3:57:49 AM*   4:00 AM    4:02:00 AM     4:05 AM               Retraction

Note: The '*' indicates which network was first to make a call.
Note: All time in Eastern Standard Time.

Source: ON-AIR NETWORK AND VNS CALLS, PRESIDENTIAL RACE, NOV. 7/8, 2000

If the call had been made at 8:00pm EST exactly, it still would have cost Bush votes as many still in line might have just left, so condititioned are many to believe everything they see and hear on television...

dvwjr

27 posted on 07/28/2004 9:21:46 AM PDT by dvwjr
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To: Mike Fieschko
NY media will be covering the GOP convention in NYC by default. That's free media access right there.

In 2000 Bush showed up in CA, although it was an unlikely state for him to win. I'll bet he shows in NJ just to see if he can tip a scale and bleed Kerry's $.

28 posted on 07/28/2004 9:21:54 AM PDT by Agamemnon
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Do whaever you can to help Bush there... If Kerry has to defend NJ< it means we can take other states...

dont give Kerry are free pass on the Garden State!


29 posted on 07/28/2004 9:22:06 AM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush - Right for our Times!)
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To: Robert Taylor
They called Florida for Gore 52 minutes before the polls closed

Negative. I believe it was along the lines of twelve minutes early, certainly not 52.

30 posted on 07/28/2004 9:22:25 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Darth Reagan
I was telling people back in late February to watch Jersey.

Some were pretty mocking in their responses. :-)

31 posted on 07/28/2004 9:23:40 AM PDT by Dales
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To: WOSG
If Kerry has to defend NJ< it means we can take other states...

Exactly!

32 posted on 07/28/2004 9:23:46 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: johniegrad
Hard to believe.

It's consistent with numerous other NJ polls.

33 posted on 07/28/2004 9:24:17 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: freeperfromnj

I've been saying this for months..President Bush has a real chance in NJ and if he wins the state, the election is probably over.

New Jersey is the second wealthiest state in the nation (per capita income) and in the top four for household income. Three of the richest counties in the entire United States are in New Jersey. There is a lot of Republican territory here and the only reason the state polls democrat is because of the heavily populated urban areas and some counties (e.g Monmouth) that have a large number of still liberal NYC transplants. Now some of those liberal ex-NYC'ers and other New Jerseyans saw their friends and neighbors brutally murdered on 911 and it has had an effect. It is only because of the honor and tremendous restraint of most New Jerseyans that portions of Paterson and Jersey City were not burned to the ground on 912. That having been said however, security and fighting terror are serious issues here and I think most New Jerseyan's want a leader who says what he means and means what he says instead of a panderer. Many see George Bush as a strong leader and are willing to keep him as captain on our ship of state.

Unfortunately it seems like the Pres' team in NJ is dragging its feet and I know several people who contacted to volunteer and have been told there is no place for them to go....they are frustrated.


34 posted on 07/28/2004 9:25:13 AM PDT by XRdsRev
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To: Darth Reagan
Oh my. Kerry +2 in NJ.

This surprises you? I thought you of all folks would know NJ has been close for months now.

35 posted on 07/28/2004 9:26:44 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: XRdsRev; Darth Reagan
Kerry Tries to Reclaim New Jersey (Jun 04)
36 posted on 07/28/2004 9:31:55 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: freeperfromnj
The fact that NJ is even close indicates why 30% of Democrats that support Kerry still think that Bush is going to win. If NJ is within 3% to Bush, then WI, MN, and OR (lost by less than 10k votes) will probably go to Bush. Then it's over.

I understand that OR and MN both have "Gay Marriage Initiatives" on the November ballot, meaning that a couple of hundred thousand faith-based Christians (many who sat out 2000) will show up to vote their conscience--and bring Kerry down.

37 posted on 07/28/2004 9:32:13 AM PDT by DJtex
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To: XRdsRev

Tell me about It. I live near Montclair, and KERRY bumper stickers aobund.


Though I was in Wayne last night saw 4 for GWB, and none for the French guy.


38 posted on 07/28/2004 9:32:22 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: XRdsRev
How long ago did these folks volunteer?

RIGHT NOW, the campaign is starting trainings for the Final 72 hour GOTV. There should be phone bank jobs to do and volunteer calling. Victory Centers are usually in Party HQ and the phone banks are open on designated days/hours. Poll watchers, runners, flushers (phone callers) are all needed, AFAIK. Did your friends ask for their names to be put on the volunteer lists? County Fairs are on all across the country and the Party and the Campaign usually have *register to vote* booths at these. I would call and ask if they need booth help. I would also identify your precinct captains and go directly to them. There will be walk arounds and lit drops from September-election day.

I cannot believe the campaign or party is writing off NJ, just because there are always down ticket races. But, perhaps I am wrong.
39 posted on 07/28/2004 9:36:50 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Proud Bush-Cheney04 volunteer)
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To: dvwjr

I voted for Retraction, so I guess I won twice.....


40 posted on 07/28/2004 9:39:50 AM PDT by PittStateGorillas (What we have here is....failure to communicate. They's some men you just cain't reach.....)
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