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RFK, Jr. Uses the F-Word
National Review Online ^ | 7/27/04 | Byron York

Posted on 07/27/2004 10:39:55 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican

Boston, Mass — Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., son of the late senator and nephew of the late president, told an audience in Cambridge, Mass. Monday that President Bush has brought fascism to America.

Kennedy appeared at a forum, "Books, Politics, and the Culture War," sponsored by the Harvard Book Store and the Progressive Book Club. A longtime environmentalist, he delivered an extended criticism of the Bush administration's environmental policies before alleging that the president has, in effect, created a fascist system of government in America.

"I was taught that Communism leads to dictatorship and that capitalism leads to democracy," Kennedy told the audience at the First Parish Church. "Well, it's not that simple." Free-market capitalism, Kennedy explained, does in fact lead to democracy, but "corporate, crony capitalism," which Kennedy said is practiced by the Bush administration, "is as antithetical to democracy in America as it is in Nigeria."

"You have to understand the difference between free-market capitalism...and the kind of corporate crony capitalism where you have large corporations running our government," Kennedy said. "There's a name for that, and the name is fascism."

The overwhelmingly left-leaning crowd, many of whom had come to Boston for the Democratic National Convention, began to cheer loudly. Kennedy finished his point by citing the American Heritage Dictionary, which he said "defines 'fascism' as the control of government by large corporations with right-wing ideology, driven by bellicose nationalism." That, Kennedy said, is the situation America is in today under the Bush administration. The crowd broke into even louder cheers — the most enthusiastic of the event.

Monday was not the first time that Kennedy has suggested the Bush administration has fascist tendencies. Last December, in an interview with the left-wing website Buzzflash, Kennedy said, "A farmer sent me a copy of the American Heritage Dictionary's definition of fascism the other day, and the definition is roughly that the control of government by large corporations with right-wing ideologies, driven by bellicose nationalism. That has a familiar ring these days."

For the record, the American Heritage Dictionary, as available on the web, includes the phrase "belligerent nationalism" but does not include references to corporations or "right-wing ideology."

At the First Parish Church, Kennedy's fellow panelists were novelist Toni Morrison, Clinton loyalist Sidney Blumenthal, and anti-Bush radio host Al Franken. The discussion was moderated by Joe Conason. Although the session was advertised as an examination of the role of books in politics, much of the time was devoted to denunciations of the Bush administration, coupled with admonitions for the audience to vote for John Kerry this November.

For example, during the question-and-answer part of the program, a woman rose to say that she had been very involved in the presidential campaign of Dennis Kucinich. She was now trying to decide whether to vote for Kerry, she said, but "Since I got here [Boston], I feel worse and worse about making that choice." She was particularly unhappy with Kerry's position on the war in Iraq.

"What am I going to do?" the woman asked.

"You're going to vote for Kerry," Franken told her.

"You should make the correct choice, and it's a very simple and easy one," added Conason.


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1 posted on 07/27/2004 10:39:59 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

if communism (socialism) leads to dictatorship, why are you supporting a party whos aim IS socialism? Unless you are planning on being a part of that dictatorship?

best part of him went down his granddad's leg.


2 posted on 07/27/2004 10:43:39 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: camle

There never was a best part of him...


3 posted on 07/27/2004 10:45:24 AM PDT by Kackikat (,)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican; ValerieUSA
For the record, the American Heritage Dictionary, as available on the web, includes the phrase "belligerent nationalism" but does not include references to corporations or "right-wing ideology."
Wow. Misquoting a dictionary? Fabricating evidence? Condemning political opponents without trial? Hooda thunkit? One of RFK's relatives once said, upon returning from the Soviet Union, "I have seen the future and it works."

4 posted on 07/27/2004 10:45:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: camle
best part of him went down his granddad's leg.

LOL! Ain't it true? A Kennedy decrying the evils of capitalism? Maybe he should go join a mission in Asia and give up those weekends at Hyannisport. Hypocrite!
5 posted on 07/27/2004 10:46:28 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

My tag line for the last few months says it all.


6 posted on 07/27/2004 10:48:25 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedy family legacy - can't skipper a boat, can't fly, can't drive, can't ski)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
For the record, the American Heritage Dictionary, as available on the web, includes the phrase "belligerent nationalism" but does not include references to corporations or "right-wing ideology." ...Ditto for my hard copy American Heritage. The guy lies, and all the dems applaud.
7 posted on 07/27/2004 10:48:46 AM PDT by bobsatwork
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

That's the first thing the Int'l Socialist (Communists) do....FALSELY ACCUSE... anyone trying to stop them of being National Socialists (Nazis)


8 posted on 07/27/2004 10:48:53 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

My tag line for the last few months says it all.


9 posted on 07/27/2004 10:49:08 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedy family legacy - can't skipper a boat, can't fly, can't drive, can't ski)
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To: SunkenCiv

The dictionary doesn't mention anything about corporations. "Congressman Kennedy, this is the police. Please step away from the bottle."


10 posted on 07/27/2004 10:50:35 AM PDT by USNBandit (Florida military absentee voter number 537.)
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To: Rummyfan

Kennedy seed money.....organized crime Luciano, Seagal, Kennedy, Onansis, etc etc etc
imo


11 posted on 07/27/2004 10:50:35 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Kennedy is a textbook example of the type of gullible upper-class nitwit who only too gladly support a fascist regime, since it seems to give their bathetic lives meaning.

Heads on pikes!


12 posted on 07/27/2004 10:50:43 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: SunkenCiv

If he needs to refer to dictionaries for authority, he ought to look up fascism before attempting to use it in a sentence.


13 posted on 07/27/2004 10:51:06 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Baaaaarrrfff...


14 posted on 07/27/2004 10:51:18 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

My dictionary (Webster's Collegiate)defines fascism as: "A political philosophy, movement, or regime . . . which exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition." Hmmm, sounds kind of like the governments we overthrew in Afghanistan and Iraq. Thus it would appear Bush is anti-fascist and Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky are pro-fascist. And the definition makes no mention of corporations or capitalism.


15 posted on 07/27/2004 10:52:54 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
"You're going to vote for Kerry," Franken told her.

These aren't the droids you are looking for.

16 posted on 07/27/2004 10:52:57 AM PDT by USNBandit (Florida military absentee voter number 537.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

From Dictionary.com:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fascism

"A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism."

The Bush Adminstration has NONE of these four characteristics.

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RFK Jr. Dictionary above:

"the control of government by large corporations with right-wing ideology, driven by bellicose nationalism."

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He is a bleeping liar. I am SOOOOO NOT surprised.


17 posted on 07/27/2004 10:53:02 AM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
From the Democrat lexicon:

Fascist = anyone that opposes me and my agenda.

18 posted on 07/27/2004 10:53:55 AM PDT by atomicpossum (I give up! Entropy, you win!)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Who is this guy and who the heck care what he think.


19 posted on 07/27/2004 10:56:43 AM PDT by frankcastle
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To: atomicpossum

Amen to that!!! Many liberals have never met a "fascist" and/or "nazis" but they will still label conservatives that way. William F. Buckley was right when he said, "Liberals are those who say they like to hear other points of view, but it distresses them to know that there are other points of view."


20 posted on 07/27/2004 10:58:47 AM PDT by SmithPatterson
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