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FReeper Canteen ~ Part III: War in Ancient India ~ July 27, 2004
A Tribute to Hinduism ^ | July 27, 2004 | LaDivaLoca

Posted on 07/26/2004 7:59:00 PM PDT by LaDivaLoca

 
 

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Part III: War in Ancient India

 
Weapons of War as Gathered from Literature

Dhanur Veda classifies the weapons of offence and defense into four - the mukta, the amukta, the mukta-mukta and the yantramukta. The Nitiprakasika, on the other hand, divides them into three broad classes, the mukta (thrown), the amukta (not thrown), and the mantramukta (discharged by mantras). The bows and arrows are the chief weapons of the mukta group. The very fact that our military science named Dhanur Veda provides sufficiently clearly that the bow and arrow were the principle weapons of war in those times. It was known by different terms as sarnga, kodanda, and karmuka. Whether these are synonyms of the same thing or were different is difficult to say. The Rg vedaic smith was not only a steel worker but also an arrow maker. 

 
Fire-Arms:

It would be interesting to examine the true nature of the agneya-astras. Kautalya describes agni-bana, and mentions three recipes - agni-dharana, ksepyo-agni-yoga, and visvasaghati. Visvasaghati was composed of 'the powder of all the metals as red as fire or the mixture of the powder of kumbhi, lead, zinc, mixed with the charcoal and with oil wax and turpentine.' From the nature of the ingredients of the different compositions it would appear that they were highly inflammable and could not be easily extinguished. 

A recent writer remarks:
'The Visvasaghati-agni-yoga was virtually a bomb which burst and the fragments of metals were scattered in all directions. The agni-bana was the fore-runner of a gun-shot.....

Sir A. M. Eliot tells us that the Arabs learnt the manufacture of gunpowder from India, and that before their Indian connection they had used arrows of naptha. It is also argued that though Persia possessed saltpetre in abundance, the original home of gunpowder was India. It is said that the Turkish word top and the Persian tupang or tufang are derived from the Sanskrit word dhupa. The dhupa of the Agni Purana means a rocket, perhaps a corruption of the Kautaliyan term natadipika. 

(source:
Fire-Arms in Ancient India -  By Jogesh Chandra Ray I.H.Q. viii. p. 586-88).

Heinrich Brunnhofer (1841-1917), German Indologist, also believed that the ancient Aryans of India knew about gunpowder. 

(source:
German Indologists: Biographies of Scholars in Indian Studies writing in German - By Valentine Stache-Rosen. p.92).

Gustav Oppert (1836-1908) born in Hamburg, Germany, he taught Sanskrit and comparative linguistics at the Presidency College, Madras for 21 years. He was the Telugu translator to the Government and Curator, Government Oriental Manuscript Library. Translated Sukraniti, statecraft by an unknown author.

He attempted to prove that ancient Indians knew firearms. 

(source:
German Indologists: Biographies of Scholars in Indian Studies writing in German - By Valentine Stache-Rosen. p.81).

(For more refer to article by G R Josyer - India: The Home of Gunpowder and Firearms).

In his work, Political Maxims of the Ancient Hindus, he says, that ancient India was the original home of gunpowder and fire-arms. It is probable that the word Sataghni referred to in the Sundara Kanda of the Ramayana refers to cannon. 

(source: Hindu Culture and The Modern Age - By Dewan Bahadur K.S. Ramaswami Shastri - Annamalai University 1956 p. 127).

The word astra in the Sukraniti is interpreted by Dr. Gustav Oppert as a bow. The term astra means a missile, anything which is discharged. Agneya astra means a fiery arm as distinguished from a firearm.  

Dr. Oppert refers to half a dozen temples in South India to prove the use of fire-arms in ancient India. The Palni temple in the Madura District contains on the outer portion in an ancient stone mantapa scenes of carved figures of soldiers carrying in their hands small fire-arms, apparently the small-sized guns mentioned in the Sukranitisara. Again in the Sarnagapani temple at Kumbakonam in the front gate of the fifth story from the top is the figure of a king sitting in a chariot drawn by horses and surrounded by a number of soldiers. Before this chariot march two sepoys with pistols in their hands. In the Nurrukkal mantapam of the Conjeevaram temple is a pillar on the north side of the mandapa. Here is a relief vividly representing a flight between two bodies of soldiers. Mounted horsemen are also seen. The foot-soldier is shown aiming his fire-arm against the enemy. Such things are also noted in the Tanjore temple and the temple at Perur, in the Coimbatore District. In the latter there is an actual representation of a soldier loading a musket. 

The Borobudar in Java where Indian tradition is copied wholesale. They are ascribed roughly to the period 750-850 A.D. There is a striking relief series PL. I, fig. 5, (1605) representing a battle in which two others are seen on each side, one wearing a curved sword in the right hand and a long shield, and the other a mace and a round shield resembling a wheel, all apparently made of iron. The story of the Ramayana is also given as in the Tadpatri temple from Rama's going to the forest down to the killing of Ravana. There is also a wonderful sculpture of an ancient Hindu ship. 

(source: Suvarnadvipa - By R.C. Majumdar. pp 194-5).

Medhatithi remarks thus "while fighting his enemies in battle, he shall not strike with concealed weapons nor with arrows that are poisoned or barbed on with flaming shafts."

Sukraniti while referring to fire-arms, (agneyastras) says that before any war, the duty of the minister of war is to check up the total stock of gunpowder in the arsenal. Small guns is referred as tupak by Canda Baradayi. The installation of yantras (engines of war) inside the walls of the forts referred to by Manasollasa and the reference of Sataghni (killer of hundreds of men) pressed into service for the protection of the forts by Samaranganasutradhara clearly reveals the frequent use of fire arms in the battle-field.

(source: India Through The Ages: History, Art Culture and Religion - By G. Kuppuram p. 512-513).


Lord Rama with his bow defeats Ravana in the gold city of Lanka

In the light of the above remarks we can trace the evolution of fire-arms in the ancient India. There is evidence to show that agni (fire) was praised for vanquishing an enemy. The Arthava Veda shows the employment of fire-arms with lead shots. The Aitareya Brahmana describes an arrow with fire at its tip. In the Mahabharata and Ramayana, the employment of agnyastras is frequently mentioned, and this deserves careful examination in the light of other important terms like ayah, kanapa and tula-guda. 

The agnicurna or gunpowder was composed of 4 to 6 parts of saltpetre, one part of sulphur, and one part of charcoal of arka, sruhi and other trees burnt in a pit and reduced to powder. Here is certain evidence of the ancient rockets giving place to actual guns in warfare. From the description of the composition of gunpowder, the composition of the Sukraniti can be dated at the pre-Gupta age. 

(source: War in Ancient India - By V. R. Ramachandra Dikshitar 1944. p. 103 -105).

 

Next Tuesday, Part IV of War in Ancient India






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To: tomkow6

MINE!


101 posted on 07/27/2004 7:09:27 AM PDT by tomkow6 (........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!)
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To: trussell

Baby is kicking up a storm...I'm getting to that part of being preggo where it gets hard to sleep for all the activity! He he he!! We still don't have a name for the little peanut. I'm gonna have to pin hubby down and have some serious discussion! LOL!


102 posted on 07/27/2004 7:10:47 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: All

July 27, 2004

Both Glad And Sad

Read: Luke 12:16-21

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, . . . but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven. —Matthew 6:19-20

Bible In One Year: Psalms 43-45; Acts 27:27-44


There’s an old legend about three men who were crossing a desert on horseback at night. As they approached a dry creek bed, they heard a voice commanding them to dismount, pick up some pebbles, put them in their pockets, and not look at them till the next morning. The men were promised that if they obeyed they would be both glad and sad. After they did as they were told, the three mounted their horses and went on their way.

As the first streaks of dawn began to spread across the sky, the men reached into their pockets to pull out the pebbles. To their great surprise, they had been transformed into diamonds, rubies, and other precious gems. It was then that they realized the significance of the promise that they would be both glad and sad. They were happy that they had picked up as many pebbles as they did, but sorry—so sorry—that they had not collected more.

I wonder if we will have a similar feeling when we get to heaven. We will be happy for the treasure we laid up in heaven while on earth, and joyful for the rewards Christ will give us. But we will also experience regret for not having done more to serve Him.

Let’s make the most of our opportunities so that we’ll be more glad than sad. —Richard De Haan

The day will come when we will stand
Before our Judge, God’s Son;
Have we so lived that He will say,
“Well done, My child, well done”? —Sper


The crowns we wear in heaven must be won on earth.

103 posted on 07/27/2004 7:12:59 AM PDT by The Mayor (The crowns we wear in heaven must be won on earth.)
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To: beachn4fun

Whoops - you were supposed to be in the "TO" line for #102, too! :o)


104 posted on 07/27/2004 7:13:16 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: The Mayor

Thanks Your Honor for the coffee and the devotional this morning! :o)


105 posted on 07/27/2004 7:14:29 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: tomkow6; StarCMC; All
1948 - U.S. President Truman signed executive orders that prohibited discrimination in the U.S. armed forces and federal employment.


106 posted on 07/27/2004 7:14:46 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap - US Marines!)
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To: beachn4fun; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; 2LT Radix jr; Radix; LaDivaLoca; Severa; Bethbg79; ...

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107 posted on 07/27/2004 7:18:33 AM PDT by tomkow6 (........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!)
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To: tomkow6

NO!


108 posted on 07/27/2004 7:19:55 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap - US Marines!)
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To: armyboy

Howdy Armyboy


109 posted on 07/27/2004 7:21:13 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap - US Marines!)
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To: StarCMC
We still don't have a name for the little peanut.

Just NOT burkaman, please!

110 posted on 07/27/2004 7:22:14 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap - US Marines!)
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To: StarCMC

Mornin Star..

My pleasure : )


111 posted on 07/27/2004 7:23:21 AM PDT by The Mayor (The crowns we wear in heaven must be won on earth.)
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To: tomkow6; All
1298 Albert I, son of Rudolf of Habsburg, crowned Holy Roman Emperor
112 posted on 07/27/2004 7:26:40 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap - US Marines!)
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To: StarCMC

I read it anyway....ha...ha


113 posted on 07/27/2004 7:27:29 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap - US Marines!)
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To: All

Good Morning troops!! Good Morning everyone! Here is today's humor attempt!

This is how the military works as related to me by a Navy Sailor:

First you got the Air Force that flys in and bombs the hill.

Next are the Marines who charge the hill and kill anything that moves.

After that the Army comes in puts up the flag and stands there like they've done something special.

All the while, the Navy sits back and rules the world.


114 posted on 07/27/2004 7:34:32 AM PDT by minor49er
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115 posted on 07/27/2004 7:39:35 AM PDT by tomkow6 (........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!)
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To: tomkow6
1360 Danish King Waldemar IV destroys Visby Gotland


116 posted on 07/27/2004 7:43:43 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap - US Marines!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Tulips.....thanks men in the Military and the Canteen.


117 posted on 07/27/2004 7:44:14 AM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless America and Our Troops Who Protect Her)
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118 posted on 07/27/2004 7:49:45 AM PDT by tomkow6 (........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!)
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119 posted on 07/27/2004 7:50:39 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops Past, Present and Future)
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War In Ancient India ~ Bump!


120 posted on 07/27/2004 7:52:11 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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