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Moore took Aussie clips for hit film
The Australian ^ | July 27, 2004

Posted on 07/26/2004 7:37:22 PM PDT by Piefloater

AUSTRALIAN artist and filmmaker George Gittoes has objected to American Michael Moore's use of some of his work a controversial movie.

Mr Gittoes said today Mr Moore had incorporated about 17 selections from his own documentary film Soundtrack to War into Fahrenheit 9/11.

They depicted American soldiers and their music in Iraq.

"I was concerned of course for my soldiers because their interviews were taken out of context," Mr Gittoes said on Channel 9.

"There are about 17 scenes from my documentary in his film. I wouldn't go so far as to say he lifted (them).

"Michael got access to my stuff and assumed that I would be happy for it to be in 9/11. I would actually have been quite happy for it not to be in 9/11."

Fahrenheit 9/11 is highly critical of the Bush administration and its conduct of the war on terror and the Iraq conflict.

Mr Gittoes said he had decided to let the matter ride, but would prefer people see his film.

"Mine's a better film. My film's balanced. I don't think there's a lot of balance in 9/11."

Mr Gittoes said he had some contact with the company, Westside Productions, associated with Michael Moore, but had no idea his work was in Fahrenheit 9/11 until it was screened at the Cannes film festival.

"When I finally discussed it face to face with Michael, I realised that no-one wants to be a spoiler. He's an artist and that's how he makes his work.

"He doesn't go out to Iraq like I do and dodge bullets. He makes it from mainly archival footage and the stuff that other people shoot."

Mr Gittoes said Soundtrack to War explained the role of music in the lives of the young American soldiers in Iraq. It includes soldiers performing their own rap, gospel and rock music.

"The work of a soldier is hard and this new generation of soldiers are better educated and more articulate," he said.

"In my film they are creative. I chose to work with soldier artists, musicians who are rappers, they are gospel singers and rock and rollers and show how they are creating music from their experiences.

"The music is just absolutely important. These soldiers said it was more important than food. It gives them a world to get into, a world to escape from."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: fahrenheit911; feralpig; moore

1 posted on 07/26/2004 7:37:23 PM PDT by Piefloater
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To: Piefloater

I hope he sues and takes away all of Michael Moore's profits.


2 posted on 07/26/2004 7:39:50 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Piefloater

So in addition to being a lier, Moore is a plagarist as well.

What a piece of work!

VietVet


3 posted on 07/26/2004 7:41:47 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to appologise for any of)
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To: Piefloater
There are about 17 scenes from my documentary in his film. I wouldn't go so far as to say he lifted (them).

anybody want to take a stab at this ? I sure don't get it.
4 posted on 07/26/2004 7:53:24 PM PDT by stylin19a (Only the mediocre are always at their best)
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To: Piefloater
STOLEN:
1. ray bradbury's title
2. pete townshend's music
3. marine's funeral
4. wounded soldier's interview
5. aussie filmmaker's footage
WHAT ELSE?
5 posted on 07/26/2004 7:58:19 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: wildwood

I am NOT surprised....."auteurs" of film like MM can't build his own film, just steals from the best. MM sickens me.


6 posted on 07/26/2004 8:06:33 PM PDT by cowboy_code (Live by the Code!)
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To: Piefloater
When I finally discussed it face to face with Michael, I realised that no-one wants to be a spoiler. He's an artist and that's how he makes his work.

Mr. Gittoes is a pushover.

7 posted on 07/26/2004 8:27:24 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Piefloater

How much of a film would be left if MM has to remove ALL the stolen clips, the unauthorized clips, plagerized sections?


8 posted on 07/26/2004 8:31:40 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: Piefloater
I wouldn't go so far as to say he lifted (them).

I'd sue that fat, plagarizing s.o.b. for the hundred mill.

9 posted on 07/26/2004 8:43:29 PM PDT by woofer
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To: Piefloater

Like I said before; not even the most trivial detail of this film is unstained. It's a lie, wrapped in distortions, twisted around halftruths, pulled together with innuendos, sourced by deceits and put together with thievery.


10 posted on 07/26/2004 9:54:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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And those are its good points.


11 posted on 07/26/2004 9:56:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: TigersEye
MM is a fake thief selling fake ideas.
12 posted on 07/26/2004 10:03:01 PM PDT by DocRock
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To: DocRock

He's a cinefraud.


13 posted on 07/26/2004 10:05:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: Piefloater

He will NOT pursue it? Just like Ray Bradbury. Chickens... Either that or they agree with Moore.


14 posted on 07/26/2004 10:10:56 PM PDT by Libertina (If you want them to take you seriously, you have to have serious hair!)
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To: Libertina
He will NOT pursue it? Just like Ray Bradbury. Chickens... Either that or they agree with Moore.

In Ray Bradbury's case, there was no legal basis for action against Michael Moore. Moore could claim that his work was parodying the totalitarian government of Bradbury's book by comparing the actions of the modern government to it. Rather an artistic stretch, but one he could most likely get away with in a court of law.

As for the case of the lifted footage and music, if the material was lifted unaltered I see no basic for a parody defense; if there was no citation given I can't see how fair use would fly either. So this would seem like a much more winnable case. Too bad this one isn't being pursued.

15 posted on 07/26/2004 10:39:13 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: stylin19a

I assume that some media company owns the rights to the original film, not the filmmaker himself. So if someone does a deal with the media company, they can excerpt scenes from it without the filmmaker's permission or knowledge.


16 posted on 07/27/2004 3:43:52 AM PDT by apokatastasis
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