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Soldiers Decry Use Of Footage In '9/11'/Two men oppose use of clips featuring them in Moore film
Baltimore Sun ^ | July 24, 2004 | By Molly Knight

Posted on 07/26/2004 8:39:03 AM PDT by Former Military Chick

A few days after Michael Moore's blockbuster documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 opened in theaters, a friend approached Roy Mitchell with a strange look on his face.

Mitchell, an Army staff sergeant, is a patient at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, where he is recovering from the loss of his left leg in an explosion in Afghanistan. As the friend approached him that day, he studied Mitchell's face, then told him something that shocked him.

"You're in that 9/11 movie," he said, then added: "Man, it doesn't make you look good."

It was the first Mitchell knew that Moore's controversial documentary, which has played to record-setting audiences, had used film of him to help make its case against President George W. Bush and the war in Iraq.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bigfatliar; bloatedpropagandist; exploitation; fahrenheit911; iraq; lyingtuboffat; military; moore; oefveterans; propaganda; wia
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I can find the words, a lady just does not say them.
1 posted on 07/26/2004 8:39:05 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

Their image was used without their permission.
They should sue for a portion of the movies profits.


2 posted on 07/26/2004 8:43:48 AM PDT by Chewbacca (Michael Moore is a filthy piece of distended rectum.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Moore is an enmy to this nation and its foundational moral principles. He is beneath cpontempt.


3 posted on 07/26/2004 8:47:24 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Chewbacca; StriperSniper; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

FIT hitting the SHAN.............................................


4 posted on 07/26/2004 8:47:32 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Former Military Chick

In MI, you are told that your words WILL be taken out of context, twisted, and made unrecognizable. The over-arching principle is "Do not talk to the media unless you absolutely have to, and then say only the minimum possible."

Never volunteer anything to the media whores. This poor NCO found that out, as did the Blackhawk mech. That poor soul lost his arms changing a tire on his bird. But I suppose that was Bush's fault, too.


5 posted on 07/26/2004 8:48:32 AM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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To: Former Military Chick
Legal action must be taken. Many people have been used against their wishes. Cant they all get a class action suit against this bloated shameful propagandist?

Hail to the King Baby.

6 posted on 07/26/2004 8:49:17 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Maybe they can get John Edwards to represent them. Supposedly the film has grossed over 100 million...


7 posted on 07/26/2004 8:51:33 AM PDT by GeorgiaFreeper
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FULL STORY HERE..............................Cause I know ya don't want to sign up.....


http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/movies/bal-to.soldier24jul24,0,2786252.story?coll=ny-entertainment-headlines


8 posted on 07/26/2004 8:53:26 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Former Military Chick
Ah, Michael Moore. Always looking out for the little guy. He's got the type of personality that would lead to millions of dead bodies if he had any power, in my opinion.
9 posted on 07/26/2004 8:54:27 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: OXENinFLA
Mitchell does not deny making the remarks. But he vehemently objects to filmmaker Moore's using them - without his knowledge - in a film he thinks undermines the military's mission in Iraq and Afghanistan, where he risked his life.
10 posted on 07/26/2004 8:54:50 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: GeorgiaFreeper

I can not imagine how much a jury would award a disabled US soldier that sued the fat man. But if it was in the public domain, it could be that he had every right to use the footage?


11 posted on 07/26/2004 8:56:25 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Chewbacca

It looks like a trend is developing here with Michael the Hutt using whatever film he wants, and the people involved be damned!

There has to be an attorney out there someplace who will take this case pro-bono and sue the hell out of the Hutt!


12 posted on 07/26/2004 9:00:00 AM PDT by Bean Counter
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Legal action must be taken. Many people have been used against their wishes. Cant they all get a class action suit against this bloated shameful propagandist?

I suggested a class action suit as well but another Freeper pointed out individual suits would have much greater affect. Drip, Drip, Drip. I like that strategy.

13 posted on 07/26/2004 9:01:21 AM PDT by hobson
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To: JLS
I can not imagine how much a jury would award a disabled US soldier that sued the fat man. But if it was in the public domain, it could be that he had every right to use the footage?

That's the point: it's NOT in the public domain. It amounts to invasion of privacy if the subject is not informed of the intended use of the footage.

14 posted on 07/26/2004 9:01:52 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man." -- John Dryden)
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To: Former Military Chick

Obviously, Moore should be required to excerpt like we are. :)


15 posted on 07/26/2004 9:03:34 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Where there is great love there are always miracles." - Willa Cather)
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To: Poohbah

That's not my understanding of the situation.

The soldier freely made his comments to the media, and I as read it, the media outlet is free to sell that footage to whosoever they choose, as they own the footage.

I'd bet the realities of the situation are on the release that he signed prior to doing the interview.



16 posted on 07/26/2004 9:07:45 AM PDT by dmz
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To: OXENinFLA

They should sue the pants off of Moore over this


17 posted on 07/26/2004 9:08:17 AM PDT by Mo1 (50 States .... I want all 50 States come November!)
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To: Poohbah
That's the point: it's NOT in the public domain.

I think it is in the public domain if these soldiers appeared on a news broadcast, as is said in the story. However, there may be a way to sue since MM may have defamed them by twisting their statements around by context.

18 posted on 07/26/2004 9:12:14 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: dmz
I'll bet there was no such release, but beyond that, there's an expectation that a TV NEWS reporter is interviewing a person for a news story. The expectation doesn't extend in any fundamental way to a commercial operation.

If this film was a news documentary (yeah, right), then MAYBE it's okay. But typically permission is still sought for anyone whose image or words appears in such a work.

19 posted on 07/26/2004 9:16:56 AM PDT by alancarp (Boycott France and anything that even LOOKS French.)
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"I think it is in the public domain if these soldiers appeared on a news broadcast, as is said in the story. However, there may be a way to sue since MM may have defamed them by twisting their statements around by context."

It isn't in public domain. The news company who did the interview owns the footage. No one, including Micheal Moore, can use it without permission from the owner. Moore presumably paid for the rights. Unfortunately, the soldier has no say in the matter. People who do free interviews for news organizations are stupid. He should have kept his mouth shut, or at least been more careful about what he said.


20 posted on 07/26/2004 9:40:28 AM PDT by monday
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