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Say what? Iowa first lady slammed blacks, Easterners and Southerners as bad speakers
Boston Herald ^ | July 26, 2004 | David R. Guarino

Posted on 07/26/2004 7:40:49 AM PDT by HalfFull

Iowa First Lady Christie Vilsack, a key factor in John Kerry's primary sweep and the primetime convention speaker tomorrow, has derided blacks, southerners and easterners as bad speakers because she couldn't understand them.

In inflammatory columns for her local newspaper obtained by the Herald, the normally soft-spoken Vilsack tore into several minority and ethnic groups while lampooning non-midwesterners for regional dialects.

``I am fascinated at the way some African-Americans speak to each other in an English I struggle to understand, then switch to standard English when the situation requires,'' Vilsack wrote in a 1994 column in the Mount Pleasant News, while her husband, Tom, was a state senator.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
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To: mewzilla
I think her arrogance is what offends people. Her attitude that she doesn't have an accent or dialect, everyone else does. That she speaks decent English, and that anyone she can't understand automatically doesn'

That is it exactly.

41 posted on 07/26/2004 8:46:51 AM PDT by HalfFull
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To: Al B.

A Virginian, bump....ya'll


42 posted on 07/26/2004 8:51:12 AM PDT by HalfFull
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
Soyutherners say, "ain't that nice" so we don't have to say. what a total bitch you really are.

And remember, if a Southerner ever says, "Well, bless your heart!"...well, hehe, maybe we'll just keep that'un a secret from all those Yankees and Damnyankees. :)

Wonder if Ms. Vilsack was the only one in the theater not laughing at Frances McDormand's accent in "Fargo"? Ooooh, yaaah, you betcha.

}:-)4

43 posted on 07/26/2004 8:52:27 AM PDT by Moose4 (When all else fails, read the instructions. But ONLY after all else fails.)
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To: ladyjane

Are you suggesting she has grown....or is 10-20-30- yr old records reserved for Republicans.....sy GW's payroll records. Can't have it both ways honey.


44 posted on 07/26/2004 8:52:55 AM PDT by marty60
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To: Redbob

I think she is refering to blacks that can speak standard english and jive or ebonics when necessary. Kind of like "when in Rome, do as the Romans". But I think Bill Cosby was talking about blacks that cannot speak anything but ebonics or jive.
This sounds like someone that understands her audience and adjusts accordingly.


45 posted on 07/26/2004 8:54:56 AM PDT by rave123
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To: HalfFull

Great work Dim's
Keep p%%%%%g people of like that
And watch W win


46 posted on 07/26/2004 8:59:21 AM PDT by 1903A3
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To: HalfFull

True story: In 1989, a friend and I were coming back from Spring Break in Florida, and stopped at a KFC along Interstate 75 in Valdosta, Georgia, for lunch. We ended up in line behind four college guys with Illinois sweatshirts.

The perky, cute, very efficient black lady behind the register took one of the frat boys' orders, then looked up at him, smiled sweetly, and said, in the thickest south Georgia drawl I had EVER heard, "Would yew lahk a beeeskit wif thayut?"

He looked at the poor girl like she was speaking Klingon. All he could say was, "Uh, what?"

Unfazed, she repeated the question. "Would yew lahk a beeeskit wif thayut!"

He just stared at her. Fortunately, I'm bilingual--I speak Southern *and* English (although being a native Virginian, a south Georgia dialect is very different). I tapped him on the shoulder and said, "Dude, she wants to know if you want a biscuit with that."

She nodded vigorously, still smiling.

Fifteen years later and it still cracks me up.

There's no sweeter sound to these unreconstructed ears than a Southern accent, be it Virginia foothills, south Georgia plains, or Texas desert.

}:-)4


47 posted on 07/26/2004 8:59:47 AM PDT by Moose4 (When all else fails, read the instructions. But ONLY after all else fails.)
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To: Moose4
``When I ask for directions, I can't understand the slurred speech of southern Americans, who are so polite and eager to please,'' Vilsack said.

She probably got lost when that eager to please "southern American" said, "Down the road 'bouta mile' and turn left at the Pigly Wigly.

48 posted on 07/26/2004 9:00:34 AM PDT by HalfFull
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To: HalfFull

No, no. Remember, we Southerners always give directions based on where things *used* to be.

"Well, lemme see...y'all turn 'round, turn left outta this lot, go 'bout a mile over t'where th' Harris Teeter was, turn raht, g'down t'whar Ed's Body Shop wuz till it burnt down last month, turn left, when y'get t'that shoppin' center they used'ta call Eastgate, turn raht and y'all'l be headin' raht for yer hotel!"

}:-)4


49 posted on 07/26/2004 9:05:27 AM PDT by Moose4 (When all else fails, read the instructions. But ONLY after all else fails.)
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To: Moose4
"Would yew lahk a beeeskit wif thayut!"

Being from Va. myself, it amazes me that folks just cannot understand plain english!

50 posted on 07/26/2004 9:05:48 AM PDT by HalfFull
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To: AmishDude

She said something that almost every HONEST person thinks at some level...that some other people talk funny. So what?

And half of the population is more stupid than the average, with thin skinned Republican whiners nearly matched by obnoxious Democratic hypocrites.


51 posted on 07/26/2004 9:07:30 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Coming to you live from HESCO City...)
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To: dead

Very funny


52 posted on 07/26/2004 9:07:52 AM PDT by Gothmog (The 2004 election won't be about what one did in the military, but on how one would use it)
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To: Moose4
"Well, lemme see...y'all turn 'round, turn left outta this lot, go 'bout a mile over t'where th' Harris Teeter was, turn raht, g'down t'whar Ed's Body Shop wuz till it burnt down last month, turn left, when y'get t'that shoppin' center they used'ta call Eastgate, turn raht and y'all'l be headin' raht for yer hotel!"

ROFL...always a pleasure to meet a true southerner!

53 posted on 07/26/2004 9:08:31 AM PDT by HalfFull
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To: Mr. Bird

I agree with you. Tweaking peoples accents seems pretty harmless. When the Coen Brothers' movie 'Fargo' came out, it exposed the MN, ND, and SD accent to an admittedly absurd level, and I thought it was funny. And, although I love working in the South, and it's full of great people, many times I feel like I need a translator with some people when I have projects down there.


54 posted on 07/26/2004 9:13:44 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: Moose4

True story #2: I happened to be living in the South some years ago and I went out to dinner with my girlfriend who was from SC and had a nice accent, but it was not overly noticeable.

We got to the restaurant and the hostess was a very nice looking (about as hot as my girl) young Asian-American girl. No big deal.

Then the hostess started talking -- and she had the sweetest Southern accent.

Not fair to introduce men with such an attraction in front of their girlfriend, I don't think, ha ha ha.


55 posted on 07/26/2004 9:25:39 AM PDT by Gothmog (The 2004 election won't be about what one did in the military, but on how one would use it)
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To: HalfFull

When I was a kid, we moved from Oklahoma to Texas, and I used to laugh at the people with their Texas accent which I would mock merrily, and continued to do so for years.

Now, to anyone else, there would be little difference between an Oklahoma accent and a Texas accent. But to a little kid who has lived in one spot all his life, small differences are big ones.

Then I remember the first time I met the folks who moved in from Louisiana, that was really like a different language altogether, I would just stare at them with mouth open, not understanding a word.

But like most people I've accumulated a fair bit of mileage over the years, and small differences in speech don't throw me anymore. Plus, people in general move around more than they used to, so most of us have by now been exposed to a lot of varied speech patterns.

This is how I read her remarks. Its a big world out there and she has seen such a small piece of it.


56 posted on 07/26/2004 9:27:32 AM PDT by marron
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To: atomic conspiracy
A major, if not predominant, factor in much of the Midwest is the large German influence in the region, combined with Dutch, Swiss, Alsatians, and Austrians. People of German and other Central European descent are the largest single ethnic group in a wide swath of the country stretching from south central Pennsylvania westward to Montana and western Nebraska. People of British descent are in the majority mainly in the southernmost counties of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois, as well as much of Missouri and Kansas. (Most of these areas were settled by Virginians, Kentuckians, and other Southerners.) Minnesota, parts of Wisconsin, and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan have a strong influence of Scandinavians. The old Rust Belt cities from Pittsburgh to Milwaukee, as well as St. Louis and Kansas City, also have high concentrations of white, non-German Catholics, much like their East Coast counterparts from Portland, Maine, to Baltimore. Chicago and Detroit also have large Eastern European Jewish settlements.

I would include in the overall Midwest definition those parts of Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado east of the Front Range, as well as western Pennsylvania and northern West Virginia due to the similarities in economy, population, and language to their Midwestern neighbors. I would exclude Oklahoma due to the predominantly Southern influence on that state.

Certain Midwestern distinctives, like the hard "r", may reflect the Germanic roots of much of the region's population. Regarding Gone With the Wind, it is worthy to note that Clark Gable, a native of Cadiz, Ohio, and partially of German ancestry, did not even attempt to sound Southern. During the Golden Age of movies, a large number of actors from mid-America did not try to sound Southern, even when their roles called for a drawl: John Wayne (Iowa and California); James Stewart (western Pennsylvania); Gary Cooper (Montana). OTOH, in the recent movie Cold Mountain, only one of the lead actors (Renee Zellweger) was from the South. Nicole Kidman (Australian), Donald Sutherland (Nova Scotian), and Jude Law (English) all delivered competent Southern accents.

57 posted on 07/26/2004 9:28:53 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: HalfFull
``I am fascinated at the way some African-Americans speak to each other in an English I struggle to understand, then switch to standard English when the situation requires,''

What is wrong with that statement? Must be a slow news day.

58 posted on 07/26/2004 9:31:13 AM PDT by nonliberal (With Specter as Judiciary Chair, how do the Bushbots propose we get a conservative onto the Court?)
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To: marty60

I picked that up, as well.
Nothing about the screaming fast New Yawkers, nor the slow witted surf culture of the West Coast, or the seasoned whining of the retirees in Florida.

We're a melting pot, but this little screed was meant in a nasty way to belittle specific groups on purpose.


59 posted on 07/26/2004 9:33:47 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: HalfFull

Isthay illway akemay erhay admay, ootay.


60 posted on 07/26/2004 9:35:32 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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