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2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 7/26/2004
TradeSports.com ^ | Monday, July 26, 2004 | Momaw Nadon

Posted on 07/26/2004 7:08:56 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon

State % Chance of Bush Winning Bush Electoral Votes Kerry Electoral Votes
Alabama 96.0 9 0
Alaska 94.0 3 0
Arizona 75.0 10 0
Arkansas 60.0 6 0
California 10.0 0 55
Colorado 78.0 9 0
Connecticut 6.0 0 7
Delaware 14.7 0 3
District of Columbia 0.9 0 3
Florida 51.0 27 0
Georgia 93.0 15 0
Hawaii 5.0 0 4
Idaho 95.0 4 0
Illinois 9.0 0 21
Indiana 93.0 11 0
Iowa 36.0 0 7
Kansas 94.0 6 0
Kentucky 91.0 8 0
Louisiana 81.0 9 0
Maine 25.0 0 4
Maryland 12.0 0 10
Massachusetts 4.0 0 12
Michigan 35.0 0 17
Minnesota 25.0 0 10
Mississippi 96.0 6 0
Missouri 57.2 11 0
Montana 93.0 3 0
Nebraska 96.0 5 0
Nevada 51.0 5 0
New Hampshire 41.0 0 4
New Jersey 13.5 0 15
New Mexico 40.0 0 5
New York 6.5 0 31
North Carolina 76.3 15 0
North Dakota 96.0 3 0
Ohio 53.0 20 0
Oklahoma 96.0 7 0
Oregon 38.0 0 7
Pennsylvania 37.0 0 21
Rhode Island 4.5 0 4
South Carolina 92.0 8 0
South Dakota 95.0 3 0
Tennessee 80.0 11 0
Texas 97.0 34 0
Utah 96.0 5 0
Vermont 5.0 0 3
Virginia 80.0 13 0
Washington 22.0 0 11
West Virginia 61.0 5 0
Wisconsin 41.9 0 10
Wyoming 96.0 3 0
Totals   274 264


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To: Reeses
Kerry will probably win the popular vote. It's the electoral college where he is losing to Bush. I think we keep seeing these 50/50 elections now because of advances in marketing technology.

Not likely. 2000 was an odd occurrence. I doubt it will happen twice. Bush probably would had won the popular vote (and carried 3-4 more states) if the media hadn't called the entire election for Gore before voting ended in 4 of the 5 timezones. A lot of people simply didn't bother to vote after it was announced that Gore was going to win the election.

41 posted on 07/26/2004 8:27:27 AM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: longtermmemmory

Politically speaking, the new restrictions will not being in new voters.

There is no one saying "I'm not voting for Bush because he isn't 'hard enough' on Cuba, but now I will because of these restrictions."


42 posted on 07/26/2004 8:30:06 AM PDT by Guillermo (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad)
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To: Reeses

Kerry isn't going to win the popular vote.

He's not even going to come close to winning the popular vote.


43 posted on 07/26/2004 8:34:07 AM PDT by jdege
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For those of you with tradesports accounts (like myself), it looks like a great buying opportunity for Bush in the swing states after this week. After the convention, Kerry's numbers will probably reach their peak, which would equates to a great Bush buying opportunity.

As for the Nevada nuclear waste thing on 60 minutes last night..does anyone know Kerry's alternative to putting the waste in Yucca mountain. According to 60 minutes last night, Kerry would gut the project completely...(by the way, this story was presented in the most bias of ways). Bush should come back with, "Kerry doesn't want nuclear waste to be buried in a federal mountian in Nevada, he wants in to be stored in YOUR neigborhood (which is the essentially the status quo).


44 posted on 07/26/2004 9:22:04 AM PDT by MedNole
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To: bluefish

The IEM is far more accurate than the upstart tradesports.com, but IEM doesn't track states. They should put out a tracking future on Florida Ohio, and Pennsylvania, the truly important battleground states. Polling is so innacurate in states that something's needed. I've see polls in Florida over the past two months that would vary from Bush +9 to Kerry +5... at the same time! How can there be a 13 pt. difference? All polls are politically skewed, and that's why I like IEM.


45 posted on 07/26/2004 9:22:55 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Darth Reagan
Oddly, Bush leads the vote-share market.

I think that's because it only includes Democrats and Republicans, not Nader which eats into the Democrats. Republicans giving money to Nader is known in marketing as a flanking maneuver. Elections have gotten sophisticated. Using current marketing technology it's relatively easy to bring a lying Democrat candidate up to the 50% market share point however breaking through the 50% barrier against an active opponent is difficult.

46 posted on 07/26/2004 9:31:30 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Momaw Nadon

THere's good news in these numbers. With all the time Kerry has recently spent in Ohio, Bush is still at $0.53. Florida is still Folrida, and we didn't win Pennsylvania last time either. However, there are some irregularities: what the hell's up with Michigan. We've got a 2 pt. lead in the polls, but Tradesports.com has us at only $0.35!


47 posted on 07/26/2004 9:36:47 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Meldrim

I think the protecting the Boy scouts would be an excellent feature for the RNC convention, particularly if they could do it on prime time. It is fosting leadership of the future, "progressive" even.

Listening to kerry durning some of his little blurbs, it seems the one of the DNC convention points is that Bush is toooooo religious. IOW this DNC convetnion will be the pushing for Kerry because his is not religious. (aka The Church of the No Controlling Legal Authority)


48 posted on 07/26/2004 9:49:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Didn't they also keep the Penn. poll open longer in the heavy democrat areas?

It would not surprise me to see such "targeted" polling place hour extensions to collect more democrat votes.


49 posted on 07/26/2004 9:54:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Wallaby

> If the traders' probabilities are correct, then the
> probability of a Bush win is 43.5% His expected value
> of electoral votes is 265.7 (with a standard deviation
> of 35.0).

How did you arrive at these numbers?


50 posted on 07/26/2004 9:59:08 AM PDT by 01
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To: Tall_Texan

Yah, I agree. I also think tradesports and the Iowa futures market are probably the best indicators of where things will really end up---for better or worse.


51 posted on 07/26/2004 10:02:23 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: LS

Kerry is going to win Masshole, Rhode Island, Maine, Vermont, NY, New Jersey, Maryland, DC, Illinois, California, Connecticut, and Hawaii. All the other states listed for him are toss-ups that probably won't come down his way in the end barring a huge downturn in the economy or a huge blow-up in Iraq.

1988 redux. Bush 54, Kerry 46. Take it to the bank.


52 posted on 07/26/2004 10:07:53 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Momaw Nadon
How did we go from 96.8% to 43.4%?

People started paying attention to politics. The stock market dropped a bit over the summer.

53 posted on 07/26/2004 10:14:56 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

Well, I've been on record here for at least six months putting Bush down for 330 Electoral Votes.


54 posted on 07/26/2004 10:15:20 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: KJacob
Bush has a ZERO chance of winning my old home state, New Jersey. As a former political operator there, I can tell you that on National or state-wide elections, the GOP is done there.

No matter what whispers you here, the Campaign will not be spending any money there.

Here are some of the interest groups working against bush in Jersey:

Unions -- particularly NJEA
Minority groups, black and Hispanic. (Which are huge in NJ)
Now and pro-abortion groups
Soccer Moms.
Liberal Jewish voters.
Anti-gun voters

I predict Bush will lose new Jersey by 12-14 points.
55 posted on 07/26/2004 10:16:00 AM PDT by Iron Eagle
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To: Momaw Nadon

THIS is no time for for NEVADA republicans to be sitting on their hands ,there are way to many dems in vegas, and the odds of the dems cheating are fifty fifty.


56 posted on 07/26/2004 10:18:31 AM PDT by douglas1 (and IF LEFT UP TO YOU AND)
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To: Momaw Nadon
How did we go from 96.8% to 43.4%? I don't understand.

What I hear often from Bush supporters visiting the local Republican headquarters is their concern for lack of Bush Cheney visibility. In fact, with the exception of bc04 bumper stickers, we have NO visibility - at this point yard signs, and highway signs are non existent.

Since most people dont pay attention until after labor day (at the soonest) dont look for BC to get too excited until convention time when we begin to ramp up. The greatest danger in any campaign is to peak too early, and although the 96.8% wasnt planned it was an early peak that left us with nowhere to go but down.

It is my hope (and observation) that the toilets have peaked too early (with lots of external help)and without decent bumps (already blew the VP bump) they are destined to be flushed.

57 posted on 07/26/2004 10:31:36 AM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: epluribus_2

This is true in many places, but you are dead right!

Go Dutch REformed!


58 posted on 07/26/2004 12:00:50 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Meldrim

is there a heavy boyscouts population in PA and WI? I had not thought of that angle....but it is a good one.

Surely Karl Rove knows this....


59 posted on 07/26/2004 12:02:00 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: 01

Using the traders' probabilities, I ran Monte Carlo simulations of the election (over one million runs). Bush won 43.5% of these mock elections.


60 posted on 07/26/2004 12:19:39 PM PDT by Wallaby
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