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Martinez Surges; McCollum Drops 10 Points; Castor Leads Duestch
Ft. Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel ^ | July 26, 2004 | Mark Hollis

Posted on 07/26/2004 5:24:08 AM PDT by kjfpolitical

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1 posted on 07/26/2004 5:24:13 AM PDT by kjfpolitical
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To: kjfpolitical

This is funny -- just yesterday in Florida Today (LIEberal paper from Melbourne area - they had McCullom ahead!!!


2 posted on 07/26/2004 5:26:46 AM PDT by Elkiejg (Clintons, Democrats, NAA CP & ACLU have ruined America)
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To: kjfpolitical
Castor's 18-point advantage over Deutsch in February has dwindled to a 13-point lead.

This article is chock full of this garden variety subterfuge. The guy is still leading by 13 points, but it's presented as if he's on the ropes.

Go figure.

3 posted on 07/26/2004 5:29:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Elkiejg

The polls are crazy. Remember that this is the same liberal media that could not predict Bush's win on election day even with exit polls.

However, Martinez is the man. Martinez is the only Republican who has a chance of beating the Democrat. McCollum is certainly not going to pull it off with a pro-abortion stance, and Byrd can't do it because he has neither the name recognition nor the support base.

My biggest fear is that Byrd will draw off enough votes from Martinez to put McCollum on the ballot. That would be a disaster.


4 posted on 07/26/2004 5:35:38 AM PDT by Brilliant
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My biggest fear is that Byrd will draw off enough votes from Martinez to put McCollum on the ballot. That would be a disaster.

If someone doesn't get 50%, isn't there a runoff?

I know it was that way in 2000.

5 posted on 07/26/2004 6:10:00 AM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: Elkiejg

Was the new poll primarilly in South (hispanic) Florida?


6 posted on 07/26/2004 6:22:20 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Kill all Islamic terrorists now. Then they cannot kill our sons and daughters tomorrow)
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To: xzins

The guy (Castor) is a gal. A dippy, dumpy old ditz.


7 posted on 07/26/2004 6:23:12 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Kill all Islamic terrorists now. Then they cannot kill our sons and daughters tomorrow)
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To: Mulder

Good question. But that might be an even bigger disaster.


8 posted on 07/26/2004 6:25:25 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Elkiejg

Ummm...this poll has McCullom up b7 6.


9 posted on 07/26/2004 6:28:27 AM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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To: Howlin

They best move outta the way as ol' Lar is reving up the campaign for a fast surge to the finish line....... lol.


10 posted on 07/26/2004 6:34:21 AM PDT by deport (Please Flush the Johns......)
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To: Mulder

If someone doesn't get 50%, isn't there a runoff?



No runoff...... leader of the Primary voting is the winner no matter the percentage.


11 posted on 07/26/2004 6:42:09 AM PDT by deport (Please Flush the Johns......)
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To: kjfpolitical
Who does McCollum think he's kidding? His support has been steady at about 30-33% or dropping. 2/3 of Republicans have already decided they're not going to vote for him. The only way he has any prayer at all is to viciously attack the other Republicans and try to win a 4-way race, a job which he has started, to be sure, with his attacks on Martinez. In any case, he's only damaging the GOP's prospects in November.

Thanks a lot, McCollum! Thanks for Senator Nelson, now you're trying to give us Castor!

12 posted on 07/26/2004 7:13:47 AM PDT by JohnnyZ
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"...quiet preparations and slow-motion campaigning by the leaders in one of the nation's most hotly contested political fights,..."

I give up:
How can an election be both "quiet... slow-motion" and "hotly contested?"

13 posted on 07/26/2004 7:36:45 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Brilliant

Try and live up to your handle. Mccollum is not pro abortion,his stem cell research position may be wrong but not pro abortion. This is a very difficult issue for people and I believe that his stance means he is running statewide now like he would if he already won the primary. Martinez is a trial lawyer who is not for tort reform,and he was the former President of the trial lawyers assn. He also gave money to lots of rats like Biden and Graham. Mccollum was a JAG in the military,and was an impeachment manager. HE is the best candidate by far,and he is up and informed on all the issues. He is conservative to the core,but you cannot win statewide in Florida if you are stridently anti-abortion and anti gay. Jeb Bush is a good example,when he had Tom Feeney as a running mate he lost,when he had Frank Brogan as a running mate he won both times. All of us are very pro-life but they do not make it a strident one issue for them. We are pragmatic knowing that the more women that are pregnant learn about their babies in-utero the more pro-life they will be.


14 posted on 07/26/2004 7:49:09 AM PDT by samantha (Don't panic, the adults are in charge)
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To: JohnnyZ

Indeed. McCollum has already cost us by losing Connie Mack's seat to Nelson. IMO, with Martinez on the ballot, Hispanics deliver Florida & 27 electoral votes to Bush.


15 posted on 07/26/2004 7:55:31 AM PDT by weepnomore
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To: samantha

You know, when you defend McCollum's stances by saying he's doing an unpricipled pander to pro-choice moderates, that doesn't make him look good, it makes him look weak and, well, unprincipled.


16 posted on 07/26/2004 8:06:05 AM PDT by JohnnyZ
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To: JohnnyZ

Blame Connie Mack for Senator Nelson,he could have walked away with the Seat in 2000 without much campaigning, then resigned for health reasons and Jeb would have appointed the pubbie, but he did not. Nelson was not known as a particularly leftist liberal type as a congressman or as Florida Insurance Commissioner,now he has a seriously leftist vote record in the Senate,and he will not be re-elected. He also has statewide recognition and was well liked(past tense). Mccollum was not known statewide,and ran a poor, underfunded campaign. Martinez will lose as many or more conservatives in Dade/Broward than he picks up because of the irrational hatred of cubans in particular,but latins in general. I hope Deutsch wins his primary because he does not play well in the panhandle or anywhere else because he is a mean,nasty creep,and any of the pubbies could beat him except the two women and Klayman.


17 posted on 07/26/2004 8:06:44 AM PDT by samantha (Don't panic, the adults are in charge)
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To: Elkiejg
This is funny -- just yesterday in Florida Today (LIEberal paper from Melbourne area - they had McCullom ahead!!!

What is funny. He has the lead.

18 posted on 07/26/2004 8:08:48 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: samantha

I know both McCollum and Martinez personally, so I have a pretty good idea what they stand for. McCollum used to be my Congressman. As a lawyer in Orlando, I used to deal with Martinez on the opposite side. Martinez was a good lawyer, and he has for the last 8 years or so been an effective governmental servant.

No matter what you think of their positions on the issues, there is one thing that ought to be clear: The Republican candidate is going to have an uphill climb against the Dem candidate. McCollum has a good base here in Orlando, but it's Miami that will decide who wins. Martinez also has a good base in Orlando, but he has a good base in Miami as well. Every South Florida Hispanic voter who votes for Martinez is another Hispanic voter who will not be voting for Castor. Also, Martinez will put votes in Bush's column for the same reason. The more conservative Cubans who show up to vote in November, the higher Bush's tally will be.


19 posted on 07/26/2004 8:51:27 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Elkiejg

I've always liked MCCullom--but I wonder if this state needs the boost that Marinez would give the Republican ticket in November.

We can't afford to lose Florida.


20 posted on 07/26/2004 9:16:34 AM PDT by wildbill
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