"THE JOY OF '6': Lex line is top-rated subway."

The New York Post ^ | July 21, 2004 | Clemente Lisi

[The Scourge of Yazid]

I don't know how many of you read this story in "The Post", or heard about on the local news, but The Straphangers Campaign has just released its annual "State of the Subways" report.

According to this article, the report "ranks each line based on what a $2 ride is really worth...based on Transit Authority data from the last six months of 2003."

Not surprisingly, the two trains that I use most frequently while doing interborough or intraborough commuting, the R and N train, are assigned the lowest ranking in this survey. A ride on each train is worth ninety and eighty cents, respectively.

Article here

[glock rocks]

here's the closest we get.

[Darksheare]

Seems to be one of the few things France can do right.

[The Scourge of Yazid]

Well, it's definitely more scenic than the view you get from an elevated line in my city, or any other for that matter.

Rocky Moutain High...

-John Denver.

[glock rocks]

The pic is on campus at the U of U.

The lawn on the left side of the picture borders where Fort Douglas was built and site of the Olympic Village for 2002.

[arasina]

That was the 7 train. :o)

[The Scourge of Yazid]

I always wondered what happened to those venues after the Olympics were over.

[Cacique]

The joy of living and working in Brooklyn is that I don't have to deal with the subway. I get to drive my truck to most destinations. Except when I have to go into Manhattan, then I have to take the sub.

The problem with New York city is that in the outer boroughs mass transit sucks. The subways all head towards Manhattan and there are no cross borough lines to connect the lines. The result is that if you don't have a car in the outer boroughs, getting around is a pain.

[Clemenza]

My fav lines are still the 1/9 for non-express service. Sure its crowded by there are several trains running. The 6 is ALWAYS packed, being the only local on the East Side.

The N(ever) and R(arely) going through Brooklyn are the WORST. Poor service, frequent stops due to "congestion" and the most run-down stations in the city.

[The Scourge of Yazid]

In terms of availability and frequency, I think that the N gets a bad rap.

Just based on anecdotal evidence, the N is pretty good in lower Manhattan and Brooklyn.

As for the R, my preferred method is intensive prayer.

I think that God is the only person who can ameliorate that situation.

I agree that the system is way too Manhattan-centric.

[clyde260]

Hey Quid, this is off the subject, but the only time in my life I heard this name was when I went to camp quidnunc as a kid. It was somewhere near Bear Mountain???

[arasina]

You can't let this thread die in it's 20s. It's just plain cruel!

Help me out folks.

Consider doing a "Compare and Contrast". Montreal's subway system? Clean and well-lighted. London's Tube? Is it still filthy doity? :o)

[The Scourge of Yazid]

You'd have to ask a Brit, or someone who travels frequently.

According to my father, the Montreal trains are very good, but he hasn't been back since the early 70s, so it might have changed since then.

I really don't know.

[arasina]

How about the BART in San Francisco?

Better question is...why am I posting on your strange but loveable thread? Is The Scourge of Yazid in a contest of wits with Lazamataz?

[tiamat]

The Scourge of Yazid wrote:

C'mon guys!

I know that most of you would rather be given a root canal at the hands of Kim Jong-il than respond to one of my threads, but still...

You can't let this thread die in it's 20s. It's just plain cruel!

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It ain't that!

I just don't live in a place where there is decent mass transit!

We have a few busses: they are horrible.

The underground in Toronto impresses me. So does London.

[quidnunc]

clyde260 wrote: Hey Quid, this is off the subject, but the only time in my life I heard this name was when I went to camp quidnunc as a kid. It was somewhere near Bear Mountain???

I'll take your word for it, though I never suspected that such a thing as Camp Quidnunc existed.

I won't even ask what the camp activities were like there.

[The Scourge of Yazid]

C'mon!

That's not even a contest!

My wits take performance-enhancing steroids.

Oops!

I probably shouldn't have let that one slip, huh?

[The Scourge of Yazid]

I understand.

I bet there isn't even a cool nickname for the trains that run in Michigan, like BART or SIRTOA.

My sympathies.

[quidnunc]

arasina wrote: Consider doing a "Compare and Contrast". Montreal's subway system? Clean and well-lighted. London's Tube? Is it still filthy doity? :o)

I haven't been to London for five years or so, but then the Underground varied a lot from station to station and line to line.

The trains and platforms of the really busy lines like District were not as clean as the less-busy lines like Bakerloo and Victoria.

[tiamat]

No trains. Busses.

The things that run around Ann Arbor call themselves "The Ride".

When i was a kid, there was "SEMTA" ( South East Michigan Transportation Authority) More busses, but they were cheap, safe and went everywhere.

Also timely. I rode them a lot.

[The Scourge of Yazid]

I guess I feel less nervous on buses.

The subway is another matter entirely.