Posted on 07/23/2004 9:37:06 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
Aw, isn't that touching? Bergler's copping the usual Clintonoid MO when caught with your pants down (or stuffed with secret documents) .....stooping, whining, and assuming the position of "victim."
I notice that the ink isn't even dry on the charges, and The Club is already planning a Resurrection of this Pantload.
Can just imagine the emails Bergler is getting.
"Cheer up, friend. We'll get you through this. We have a nice seven-figure job waiting for you after you get exonerated."
"It's those damn conservatives. It was only US national security and you're being treated like a criminal. We all know you're perfect."
"I'm the editor of Bill Clinton's book. I'd like to offer you $5M to write your version of this."
Lindsey is Bill Clinton's official liaison person with the NA. However, it couldn't have been Lindsey who had the authority to approve Berger, but only Bill himself. But Bill Clinton is not president (although this may come as a surprise to him) and to my knowledge is not the head of any agency and in fact occupies no official position. So how does even Clinton get the authority to permit Berger this access?
I think we are going to find that several people at the NA bent the rules for Berger at the personal request of Bill. In other words, he had no authority to make this request, but because (as we have documented on another post) the NA is relentlessly anti-Bush, it was probably easy for him to whisper in the ears of the archivists. ("Uh, won't ya just, uh, let muh buddy Sandy here, uh, have a little, uh, time to himself, uh.") It's the usual Clinton story. Wherever that man goes, he leaves a trail of lies and broken laws.
This is a war, CinN, and these people are the enemy within. Days like this, I thank God for our 2nd amendment.
I think he's already done it.
As Liz observes in post 38, it's very unusual for a clinton operative to admit to wrongdoing-- certainly more so at Berger's level. And I don't think it's because he was caught red-handed, either. That's never kept this bunch from denying everything before.
The one thing Berger, his lawyers and apologists are NOT trying to move attention from is the particular documents Berger took---all from the Millenium Plot Report. This is not natural. If they were really trying to sell the fiction that this was all inadvertant sloppiness, they'd be pointing to the disparate variety of documents he took.
In fact, Berger's own actions seem centered on drawing attention to that report and only that report. That's where he draws the least jail time. More more importantly, he's the only one who does.
IMHO, Berger took care of his primary mission in the very first visit, and it wasn't the Millenium Report. All of his subsequent action was meant to ensure no one would know what he was really after---material, that if known, would draw far more serious charges than document mishandling. And not just for Berger.
Sorry, the facts are not with you on this one. The undeniable fact is that he committed a crime on multiple occasions. No one disputes this fact. His defense has been one of motive. However, the cold hard fact is that he committed a crime on multiple occasions and he will probably be doing jail time.
He has already confessed. Therefore one would think they have cold-hard evidence.
Excellent deconstruction. Sure makes sense to me.
Do Pukin Dogs poop in their Tomcats?
Listen, I took a lot of heat for telling you folks about the video when the media said otherwise. Sandy Berger is on film, and that is why he confessed. Someday, Howlin might just take my word for it?
Do Pukin Dogs poop in their Tomcats?
Listen, I took a lot of heat for telling you folks about the video when the media said otherwise. Sandy Berger is on film, and that is why he confessed. Someday, Howlin might just take my word for it?"
I have no doubt that the investigation has the goods on Sandy the Burglar, he would not have admitted it if there was not evidence.
So was the document theft to cover himself or bjclinton or Hillry?????
"No comment on that. You will know soon enough."
A timing thing, ey!!!!!
There are cameras all over the place, except for were Berger was huh??
What room are they talking about .. The Bathroom???
Sorry .. I'm not buying this story about no tape
Until the Nixon days, all Presidential papers were considered the personal property of the President (precedent established by Geo. Washington).
Currently, Presidential papers are considered the property opf the National Archives. Presidential papers are closed for 5 years after a President leaves office.
Currently, all Clinton papers are under the purview of the Clinton Presidential Materials Project in Little Rock (which is part of NA). Classified documents and some types of personal documents remain directly under the purview or control of the President for 12 years after leaving office.
So Bill Clinton has direct authority over classified documents (although they're in the custody of the NA).
I think we are going to find that several people at the NA bent the rules for Berger at the personal request of Bill.
I don't think that's quite true, but not because I'm by any stretch a Clinton defender.
It actually looks as if NA went by the book. But in making their first call to Lindsey (as descibed on the initial reporting of this scandal), it becomes clear that at least he and probably Bill Clinton had first and last say-so in granting the clearance waiver to Berger.
And I'll betcha the Clinton Crowd are scared of that one
All you need is one person to bring them down
Will Sandy be the one??
Thank you for the explanation.
I suppose Clinton probably sent Berger for the ostensible purpose of preparing material for his (Clinton's) testimony to the 9/11 Commission.
However, I still find it hard to believe that the guards (or "monitors") would have permitted such blatant violations of procedure unless they had been told to do so by a superior. I suppose it's possible that this was a personal inspiration of that superior, and not at the request of Clinton himself. But anytime Bill Clinton surfaces, one always has to wonder...
You may be correct, but this we'll probably never know.
I've reviewed the Archives procedures on their Web site. When you're in the reading room, they deliver a "stack" of documents (apparently a file box of materials). They don't deliver one-by-one.
And they've admitted they don't know what he took that first day.
Not possible as long as there are missing documents.
Don't hold out on us. Your sources are too good. I promise not to give you any sh*t anymore. :o)
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