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Kobe Bryant's accuser's "post-assault" sexual history to be admitted in Court!
FOXNEWS | 7/23/2004

Posted on 07/23/2004 3:32:50 PM PDT by sinkspur

While her previous sexual history will not be admitted, the judge has just ruled that any post-KB-sexual activity WILL be admitted.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: kobebryant
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To: A CA Guy
Professional jurors are needed in Los Angeles.

No, a DA with a brain is needed in LA!

81 posted on 07/23/2004 5:42:11 PM PDT by Chieftain ('W' in '04!)
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To: CTOCS
I can't abide people who abuse animals.......

I TOTALLY agree with you. Anyone who thinks that Republicans or Conservatives don't love animals is out of their mind. I could not read that thread ... I knew it would haunt me!

82 posted on 07/23/2004 5:43:27 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Chieftain

Wasn't a DA issue, OJ was given jury nullification. It was one of the best DNA cases ever. He even fled with a beard and $10,000 dollars.


84 posted on 07/23/2004 5:46:00 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Juries in LA are just fine, thank you. It's just that OJ's jury was almost exclusively black and they were not going to convict OJ ... a high profile black man. Case in point is when the couple whose dogs mauled that lesbian to death in SF got their trial in Los Angeles ... the Los Angeles convicted their butts like they should have been. When they got up to soppy San Francisco, the verdict was overturned! So don't tell me LA juries don't convict ... they do.


85 posted on 07/23/2004 5:47:23 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Chieftain
"... So she had sex afterwards, that doesn't nean she wasn't raped!"

The facts presented in this case have essentially become an intelligence test at this point.

Smarten up.

86 posted on 07/23/2004 5:47:50 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Er, smarten up Gunny.


87 posted on 07/23/2004 5:48:48 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: Chieftain

yeah well I believe she swore under oath that she hadnt. Add to that the possibility that she wrote a text message to the effect that she would go after him for money. She will be prosecuted for perjury.


88 posted on 07/23/2004 5:50:54 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Question_Assumptions
The real problem is that we have two people telling a different story and one has to be a liar. If she is the liar, it wasn't rape and no crime was committed. Is the promiscuous woman a liar or is the adulterous basketball star? I wasn't there. The jury wasn't there. It is his word against her word and the jury needs to believe her beyond a reasonable doubt. At that point, character matters.

Thank you. It does appear at this very early point to be his word against hers ... and they may well decide this young woman is unstable given that she tried to kill herself (before) and had sex with someone else (after).

But if Kobe's guilt cannot be absolutely proved, he should be declared not guilty. Colorado has the toughest rape laws with mandatory sentences.

89 posted on 07/23/2004 5:52:05 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Walkingfeather
She will be prosecuted for perjury.

If there is credible evidence that she bragged about having sex with him (rape) at a party sometime afterwards, then her credibility will be severely undermined.

91 posted on 07/23/2004 5:54:16 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: coloradomom

I'll bet this ruling will be the end to this case. She will drop the charges. Then he ought to sue the heck out of her.


92 posted on 07/23/2004 6:00:38 PM PDT by bfree (Liberals are EVIL!!!)
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To: muawiyah
If Bryant's accuser had diminished capacity which prevented her from consenting to sex, then shouldn't the prosecutor be pursuing charges against any other men the accuser had sex with during the same period? I don't think anyone will be making an argument of diminished capacity for the accuser.

You use the terms "normal" and "abnormal" for describing behavior. Reasonable people, which is what jurors are presumed to be, expect people to react and behave "normally" to events. The accuser's "abnormal" behavior, having consensual sex so soon after allegedly being raped, will likely require a compelling explanation in order to avoid creating doubt in at least some jurors' minds. The issue is will her "abnormal" behavior create sufficient doubt to cause jurors to conclude Bryant is not guilty of rape.
93 posted on 07/23/2004 6:08:04 PM PDT by Poodlebrain
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To: sinkspur
There is no doubt, now, that this accuser had a sexual encounter after her "violent assualt" by Bryant!

Well, I happened to have read the actual order and it does not establish that. I don't intend to argue with normally reasonable freepers who toss all rationality and logic out the window when it comes to this case. But I thank you kindly for the ping.

94 posted on 07/23/2004 6:08:22 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: BunnySlippers

It makes me sick and also conjures up memories of news stories such as pets being abducted and used as "training aids" for fighting dogs, etc.

I think about something like that happening to one of my boys and I go homicidal.

It takes a pretty sick SOB (or SOB'ette) to deliberately inflict pain and suffering on a creature that cannot fight back on your level (and meant you no harm in the first place).

And for those of you who might be inclined to cite stories of pit bulls, etc. attacking and mauling children, don't.

Those animals were trained to do that for reasons no responsible pet owner would conceive of. They didn't come out of the "doggie womb" predisposed to do this.

And, for the record, if I saw a dog attacking a human (child or otherwise), I'd cap him in a minute.

Sheesh!, my disclaimer was longer than my comment...


95 posted on 07/23/2004 6:15:50 PM PDT by CTOCS (Erections lasting more than four hours, while rare, require immediate medical attention)
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To: sinkspur
I thought FOX news just said her previous sexual history could be admitted.

And while at first my thought was "game, set, match...he will walk", this could very well backfire. If her lawyers pull their heads out of their butts and think, they can use this to show that she was not promiscuous, that she is not a gold digger, and all the other things that Kobe's lawyers are trying to paint her as being.
96 posted on 07/23/2004 6:25:24 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: SheLion

"and then she cried fowl"

You mean they were doing it "chicken style?"

My god, the dreaded "Poultry Defense"

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97 posted on 07/23/2004 6:27:55 PM PDT by CTOCS (Erections lasting more than four hours, while rare, require immediate medical attention)
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To: SheLion

BTW, regarding going to Kobe's room at night that was part of her job. She was a hotel employee.


98 posted on 07/23/2004 6:34:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NJ_gent
However, it can quite easily put reasonable doubt in the mind of a juror.

And, that is the bottom line. Do I think rich, sense-of-entitlement, basketball stars would behave badly with a hotel employee? Yes. Do I think that there are young women out there who look at a rich, sense-of-entitlement, sports star and see dollar signs? Yes.

Its a wash for me, and from what I've heard about this case, I'd have to think if I'm on the jury, I have reasonable doubt.

99 posted on 07/23/2004 6:36:15 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
If her lawyers pull their heads out of their butts and think, they can use this to show that she was not promiscuous, that she is not a gold digger, and all the other things that Kobe's lawyers are trying to paint her as being.

Her "lawyers" are the prosecutors, and they'd better stay away from trying to defend their client's sexual history.

They'd lose, big time.

100 posted on 07/23/2004 7:02:34 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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