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Details of Classified Document Handling Procedures
None ^ | Jul 22, 2004 | Barry (tang-soo)

Posted on 07/22/2004 1:34:39 PM PDT by tang-soo

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21 posted on 07/22/2004 8:04:58 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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22 posted on 07/23/2004 12:35:33 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: angkor
"Bill Clinton has ultimate adminstrative authority over the classified docs from his administration..."

Including their removal, loss and destruction? Bill Clinton has the authority to order that?

23 posted on 07/23/2004 4:06:55 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: tang-soo
More NARA info here. And here.
24 posted on 07/23/2004 4:24:58 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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Including their removal, loss and destruction? Bill Clinton has the authority to order that?

No. By statute, the President can grant or deny access to classified materials (and 5 other categories of materials) for 12 years.

25 posted on 07/24/2004 8:14:06 AM PDT by angkor
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Thanks for the clarification, angkor. There could be some thorny legal issues here that may at least partly explain the apparent stand-off between Berger and the DOJ.


26 posted on 07/24/2004 11:15:57 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: tang-soo

As I've alluded to before, I am very impressed by your summary. One item that I would like you to add, when you get a chance to update it:

There are many, many people who have had "Confidential" or "Secret" clearances, or even marginal "Top Secret" access. Those people are likely to under a delusion that this "Code Word" - Highest sensitivity - material is handled in a similar manner. Nothing could be further from the truth.

This stuff is handled with far more care than the lower clearance material, and even the archivists (or investigators of criminal behavior with respect to it) are under severe restrictions when they have to handle it in any way because they do not have the clearances and "need-to-know" to be allowed to view it.

There is no way - I mean NO WAY - for this material to be inadvertently carried off and subsequently lost or disposed of.
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27 posted on 07/25/2004 4:50:48 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I am dead certain that the Demodogs leaked this.

Berger was expected to be Sec.State or some other top level appointment. Can you imagine the clamor if this story was broken a week or so after Kerry "pre-announces" his "team" - or in another way flags what his Cabinet would be? We had a very good idea of who was in Bush's Cabinet well before the election. They NYSlimes even said "there's a chance this will hurt Berger's chances to be Sec.State", so they knew Berger was in line. Really, what type of damage would having this come out a mere 2-4 weeks before Nov.2 cause? Berger apparently saw fit to hide this story from Kerry!

Demodogs leaked this... pure and simple.

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I sure wish somebody with a little more recent experience with super-high level security procedures would verify what tang-soo has posted here.

His experience is about 10 years old, and mine is even older.

Anybody verifying, updating, and adding to his post would be very appreciated.
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28 posted on 07/25/2004 6:56:49 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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29 posted on 07/25/2004 7:19:24 PM PDT by independentmind
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30 posted on 07/26/2004 6:35:56 AM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: tang-soo

Thanks for this informative post!


31 posted on 07/30/2004 9:38:01 AM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: tang-soo

A most enlightening post. Michael Savage made mention of the "Code Word Access" and how secrete that level is. This Berger thing simply does not pass the smell test in any shape or form...Berger committed a crime and I suspect he did not do this for himself – shades of Ron Brown.


32 posted on 07/30/2004 5:05:52 PM PDT by yoe (Bill Clinton lied again to the Nation – his Convention speech was 90% bogus.)
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To: tang-soo
I should stress that I'm no security expert - but I did work in that environment for nearly 12 years as an engineer in the aerospace industry (stealth technology).

I know that even "honest mistakes" where procedures were improperly followed, but which resulted in no actual compromise of the data results in severe punishment for people in the military: Reduction of rank, loss of multiple months pay, and confinement to quarters - in addition to possible revokation of security clearances.

That's just for mishandling or misrecording. Anything even remotely like what is described would result in jail-time.

33 posted on 07/31/2004 12:00:07 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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My experience in Classified Printing and Pub. for USAREUR in the early 70's is that upon leaving one's position, he is debriefed and further access is prohibited, despite personal authorship or involvement.

Generally Presidents and certain other positions like CIA Directors retain their clearances after leaving office - assuming a sort of "emeritus" status.

34 posted on 07/31/2004 12:02:52 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
Generally Presidents and certain other positions like CIA Directors retain their clearances after leaving office - assuming a sort of "emeritus" status.

O.K. apparently there is a mechanism that makes it look like they still have clearances. See the Order likned above.

35 posted on 07/31/2004 12:14:53 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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