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The Berger 'faux pax' has already been spun as a Bush dirty tactic by the Dems and the BS media. His deliberate covert act is being swept aside as a 'sloppy mistake'. Whether this guy is is just blowing smoke or not... we cannot let them deep six Bergers actions!
1 posted on 07/22/2004 4:17:32 AM PDT by johnny7
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46 posted on 07/22/2004 6:06:01 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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The first thing I thought of when I heard the Sandy Bergler news was TWA 800.

GMTA

50 posted on 07/22/2004 6:20:31 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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Wow, this explanation makes way too much sense. What if what was 'lost' by Berger were the documents with margin notations regarding TWA 800?


65 posted on 07/22/2004 6:46:39 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (The Democratic party has been hijacked by terrorists.)
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Sounds to me that it's about time that W. gets Condi to go to the Archives and start doing a bit of data-mining herself, and see what else there might be in the files around the same timeframe.


73 posted on 07/22/2004 7:18:01 AM PDT by aShepard
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I've posted this top a few other threads. Please ignore if you've seen it before ...

I called our local Clear Channel station the night after this story broke and spoke for about 10 minutes describing the procedures used to handle classified information. The following is a basic description of what I said ...

1) A person who wishes to review classified information at a given facility must have his/her clearance on file with the security office that has legal custody of the information.

2) Once they arrive to the facility, they must show their credentials to identify themselves, sign into the facility - maybe issued a badge indicating their clearance and access and escorted to the room where the material will be reviewed.

3) A quick sidebar on program access and document marking. The term "Access" refers to the concept of "Need to Know". The fact you have a clearance that matches the level required to have access to the material does not establish your "need to know". It must be determined by someone like a program manager or security personnel that your job function requires access to certain information. If you are granted access, you may be required to go through another level of investigation. Some levels of access (at least the ones I was exposed to) are known as "Special Need to Know" or SNTK (pronounced Snick) and "Special Access Required" or SAR. Programs with these designations require special prominent markings on each page of a classified document along with the classification level. Believe it or not, after all the markings (top and bottom) there usually is enough room for the content of the page.

4) I should also mention that each paragraph of the document starts with a designation indicating the classification level of that paragraph. This would look like (U), (C), (S), (S/SAR), (S/SNTK), (TS) or (TS/SAR). Every page is marked top and bottom based upon the highest level of any paragraph on that page. ie. it's possible to have an unclassified page in a top secret document. And as you might think, the overall classification of the document is classified at the highest level of any single page.

5) This next point is especially important in light of the current investigation. Every page is marked "Page x of y Pages". For example page 13 of a 32 page document would be clearly marked in the banner section of the page "Page 13 of 32 Pages". This is done for obvious reasons - if any page is missing, it can be accounted for. The page count is also part of the document's registration in the security catalog.

6) Once in the room, the container (probably a safe i.e. a very heavy duty file cabinet with heavy combination locks with different combinations on each drawer) is opened. This process should be logged by security personnel.

7) The documents are taken from the container. All classified documents are stamped (each page) with items such as a control number, date of creation, level of clearance (top and bottom), program name indicating what access is required and eventual dispensation (i.e. when the material is designated to destruction if applicable).

8) If the documents are classified "top secret", each document has a log on the cover sheet. EACH time a person has access to this information, they must sign and date it.

9) The material is not to be removed (ie stuffed in underwear, socks ... etc) without approval of security personnel. If this takes place, the transfer is documented on both ends of the transaction. If the material is top secret or above, it requires at least two cleared people as an escort.

10) If you travel overnight, the material is not to be kept in your hotel/motel room but instead must be taken to an approved facility. Arrangements are usually made in advance. Security people do not like suprise visits. They like to make them but not receive them.

11) No photocopies are to be made or notes copied without the proper security personnel logging this activity and making appropri
78 posted on 07/22/2004 7:29:01 AM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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If they can send Berger to jail which they can for legitmate criminal crimes; than they can surely do the same for Bill and Hillary Clinton.


79 posted on 07/22/2004 7:32:36 AM PDT by freekitty
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It's not just the files they want removed but what Berger and serial rapist Bill had hand written on the security reports. They knew about all the threats to the US and did not do squat to set up barriers.
86 posted on 07/22/2004 8:21:23 AM PDT by jetson
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NEVER FORGET

...It was the take down of TWA Flight 800 the night before HILLARY-Hired White House Security Chief CRAIG LIVINGSTONE's Nationally Televised Senate Testimony about who hired him to get her FBI Files on Republicans in Congress ..that got his TV Appearance cancelled.

...CRAIG LIVINGSTONE ended up protecting HILLARY by Pleading the 5th against Self-Incrimination far away from the glare of National TV Cameras weeks later.


For...


.."It's the TV, Stupid, no matter WHO pays for it"..


...is still the CLINTONS' Lifetime M.O.


NEVER FORGET

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93 posted on 07/22/2004 8:54:08 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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...and it ain't over, till it's over:


HILLARY & TERRORISM's plan to regain the White House

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1022571/posts

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94 posted on 07/22/2004 8:55:56 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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"What did he pants, and when did he pants it?"
(And did he show Kerry what was in his pants?)


107 posted on 07/22/2004 10:05:56 AM PDT by talleyman (The fruitcake doesn't fall too far from the tree...)
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Go to www.usdoj.gov and you will find contact info for the appropriate departments. Berger needs to be charged and prosecuted, IMO, and we also need to contact our reps (I do love beating my head against a wall).

Carolyn

108 posted on 07/22/2004 10:06:19 AM PDT by CDHart (I'm not crazy. I've just been in a bad mood for 40 years. [Steel Magnolias])
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112 posted on 07/22/2004 10:27:21 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 7 month old son with Down Syndrome)
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Since the documents are missing and no one but Berger knows what was in them, we might as well make up anything about the possible contents. Speculation season is . . . open!


113 posted on 07/22/2004 10:30:01 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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The files in question need to be reviewed by someone who knows what's supposed to be there, to identify what is missing.


114 posted on 07/22/2004 10:36:21 AM PDT by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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