Hey! Posting pictures like this can be dangerous to our health!
Posted on 07/22/2004 4:17:31 AM PDT by johnny7
During the 1980s, renowned radio commentator Paul Harvey said something that I’ve quoted often to my friends. Opining about various wars and upheavals — in the Middle East, Central and South America, Northern Ireland, and Cambodia — Harvey said, “Sometimes you have to laugh, just to keep from crying.”
During this election year — while the country is at war with shadowy terrorist networks, both here and abroad — Paul Harvey’s advice seems especially appropriate. Americans have already come up with various combinations of “Berger & Ketchup” to describe the relationship between former Clinton Administration national-security advisor Sandy Berger and presidential candidate Senator John Kerry (who is married to ketchup-fortune heiress Teresa Heinz-Kerry). Adding to that, I will say that Berger’s recently-abdicated title as an “informal advisor” to the Kerry campaign is starting to look a lot like the “unofficial spokesman” on the Wendy’s Hamburgers TV commercials. (Oddly, the Wendy’s theme has shown up in another of my articles about the Flight 800 mystery.)
The recent revelation by Sandy Berger that he removed highly-classified documents from the National Archives, and then “lost” them, has numerous implications during this election season. Berger was the national-security advisor to Bill Clinton, who is the most scandal-laden president in US history. Flight 800 was destroyed in mid-air during the 1996 re-election campaign of Bill Clinton. Another high-level Clinton insider — former White House chief of staff, turned ABC-TV news analyst, George Stephanopoulos — referred to the bombing of Flight 800 on the air. With that remark — and his associated description of being inside the “other situation room” in the White House at the time of the Flight 800 disaster — a direct link was made between Clinton and Flight 800. This link was, of course, overlooked by the “mainstream” news media.
So, what does this link between Bill Clinton and Flight 800 have to do with the current John Kerry presidential campaign? Well, perhaps nothing, except thatJohn Kerry also referred to Flight 800 as a terrorist incident in a televised interview. The problem is that, with the upcoming release of the final report of the “9-11” Commission, the general public will have the opportunity to refresh their memory about the link between Flight 800 and terrorism. Having spent years on the Senate Intelligence Committee, it is now impossible for Kerry to deny that he had access to information about any link between Flight 800 and terrorist acts. Therefore, if such a link is proven, then a line can be drawn between the downing of Flight 800 in 1996 and the “9-11” attacks in 2001. Again, because of his committee experience and his televised interview, Kerry cannot now distance himself from his comments about “9-11”. Follow along: if a link is made in the public’s mind between terrorism, Flight 800, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and “9-11”, then what is the logical result? Surely, donations to the Democratic Party and to the Kerry campaign would dry up rapidly. Therefore, it is imperative to the Kerry campaign to destroy evidence of such a link. Enter: Sandy Berger. He is a person that had intimate knowledge of high-level decisions about terrorism, and access to the records of those decisions. Now, it is public knowledge that Berger has “lost” some of those documents. Were the “lost” documents related to Flight 800? The only person that knows hasn’t talked.
What is known is that there are numerous pieces of evidence that point to the involvement of a missile in the TWA Flight 800 disaster. What is known is that President Clinton issued an executive order that was targeted to silence the Navy SEALs that were on scene at the Flight 800 debris field in the Atlantic Ocean. What is known is that the FBI was very embarrassed when news of Bureau interest in missile technology became public. (Read the portion about the Teledyne fax to Dee Muma.) What is known is that the Navy SEALs are following the Flight 800 story. What is known is that there were other terrorist plots on US soil between 1996 and 2001. What is known is that the Clinton Administration ignored warnings about Operation Bojinka, and thus paved the way for the “9-11” attacks. What is known is that Clinton wanted to cover his tracks about the probable Bojinka—“9-11” link. What is known is that Berger is a close ally of both Clinton and Kerry. What is known is that Berger removed highly-classified documents from the National Archives. What is known is that those documents were related to information examined by the 9-11 Commission about the extent of terrorist operations in America prior to 11 September 2001. (operations that apparently continue today) What is known is that Bill Clinton and his ilk will do anything to gain and retain political power. And, just recently, it became known that Operation Iraqi Freedom had more justification than Kerry has admitted.
As this article is being written, a Federal appeals court is in session in Massachusetts. The topic is the secrecy over autopsy reports of the Flight 800 crash victims. As I reported last week, independent researcher and electrical engineer Graeme Sephton — vice-president of FIRO, and founding president of FOIAC — is winning so far in his lawsuit against the FBI. The suit is trying to force the Bureau to release autopsy reports, which allegedly contain proof of missile shrapnel in the bodies of Flight 800 victims. If the lawsuit is successful, then the official Clinton Administration story about Flight 800 will be blown to bits. The political explosion, however, will not only affect the elusive “Clinton legacy”. The fireball would also burn up the chances of John Kerry to become elected as President of the United States. And, with that would come the destruction of any potential pardons of criminal charges for culpability in a Flight 800 cover-up. And, the shrapnel from this explosion would also shred the hopes of other Democratic Party candidates, especially in Massachusetts. The timing of Berger’s revelation that he “lost” valuable documents — coming in between last week’s article about the lawsuit, and today’s court hearing — seems quite suspicious. And, the fact that the hearing is being held in Kerry’s home state certainly adds fuel to the speculation — especially considering that a Fox-TV news item mentioned the lawsuit on the Flight 800 anniversary last Saturday. It appears to me that Berger’s revelations about illegal activity are designed to take heat off Kerry, in the same way that Janet Reno’s raid on the compound outside Waco seemed timed to take media attention away from the indictment of Hillary Clinton.
Because of my own experience in the Air Force, I know that it might never be possible to determine which documents disappeared at the hands of Sandy Berger. When documents reach a certain level of classification, even the table of contents listing the documents is classified. Therefore, only people with that level of clearance, and a specific “need to know”, may be granted access to even the table of contents. Most members of the public do not realize that there are actually several layers of classification above Top Secret. If the Clinton White House did, in fact, engage in a cover-up of the shoot-down of Flight 800, then the most likely “classification authority” would have been Sandy Berger. He would have been under great incentive to hide the proof under the highest classification possible. Thus, even proof that such documents ever existed would be difficult to access.
Were the missing documents shredded, and/or burned? If so, then did Berger “fry” any records of the truth about the downing of Flight 800? (I had to make a joke about it, because, “Sometimes, you have to laugh, just to keep from crying.”)
Now after 9/11 the US public, as well as the world flying public is aware of the Moslem terrorists, and their capability of atrocities. Hence, it is time that these lies, and the Egypt Air lies are uncovered for us all to learn that Arab Moslems have been messing with us for more than ten years without us lifting a finger and also that our public should NEVER take whatever our government tells us a word of gospel! Yes the Egyptian government INSISTED on calling Egypt Air an accident despite of our government objection! But now we should not be afraid of pointing to the Moslem fanatics, and their terrorist actions against us, and against their own governments.
Was there a "Flight 800" connection that Bergler was after when he stole the documents?
Why John Kerry talks about TWA 800
An excerpt:
John Kerry seems to have his sights on Al Gore's Achilles heel. After the events of Sept. 11, the story of how Al Gore helped subvert the investigation into TWA 800 and undermine airport security is a career-killer.
My Bad. I said Saudi and it was Egypt as you stated...
Thank you for posting this. I wish there could be a separate category for Berglargate to keep all threads in one place.
If any freeper has her email I'd like them to ask her to comment on that specific issue.
If the doors had been hardened then NO planes could have been flown into buildings......
2) The FBI went into the investigation, as Kallstrom himself said, expecting to find a BOMB, (not a missile). Again, I refer you to the discussion of this in Peter Lance (who thinks it was a Lockerbie-type device).
3) As far as I can tell, no one, ever, has produced any radar evidence from ANY source showing a missile. I understand that something so small might not be picked up by all FAA radars, but certainly there were more than enough radars that would have identified an airborne object. Not one has surfaced to my knowledge.
4) The bomb and missile theories are, in many cases, mutually exclusive.
5) The guy who wrote the book on TWA 800 has vascillated between a Stinger and a Navy drone. There are problems with each. Most don't think a Singer could have operated that far out, or at that altitude. A "drone-run-amok" implicates the whole U.S. navy, and, again two administrations, which, so far, has not had A SINGLE LEAK. Too kooky to believe.
Hey! Posting pictures like this can be dangerous to our health!
And ?
Did he drown ? What's the story here ?
I saw the ship he was on and there is no way anyone could have accidently fallen overboard......rail much too high.
) As far as I can tell, no one, ever, has produced any radar evidence from ANY source showing a missile. I understand that something so small might not be picked up by all FAA radars, but certainly there were more than enough radars that would have identified an airborne object. Not one has surfaced to my knowledge.
Click the link
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NEVER FORGET
...It was the take down of TWA Flight 800 the night before HILLARY-Hired White House Security Chief CRAIG LIVINGSTONE's Nationally Televised Senate Testimony about who hired him to get her FBI Files on Republicans in Congress ..that got his TV Appearance cancelled.
...CRAIG LIVINGSTONE ended up protecting HILLARY by Pleading the 5th against Self-Incrimination far away from the glare of National TV Cameras weeks later.
For...
.."It's the TV, Stupid, no matter WHO pays for it"..
...is still the CLINTONS' Lifetime M.O.
NEVER FORGET
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...and it ain't over, till it's over:
HILLARY & TERRORISM's plan to regain the White House
http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1022571/posts
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Just so we get that on record and don't beat around the bush. And, as I recall, I have seen this series before, submitted it to a USAF radar controller, who said it was bunk. Since I'm not a radar specialist, I can't say any more than that.
You can do a Google search, Flight 800 radar, and see what happens.
I am not saying the incident was deliberate, heaven forbid! What I am saying is that Military mishaps do occur and most of the time with fatalities.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9703/13/twa/
And this:
http://www.twa800.com/index.htm
You can put me on record as saying I believe that Flight 800 was downed by a missle, who fired it, I don't know. I do not want to think our military did it, but it is possible with the conditions noted.
I also provided you the link to show you radar images exist.
I agree mishaps do occur, but when they do (i.e., the screwups in the D-Day practice landings, or the Iranian airliner shootdown) they are EXTENSIVELY covered. It's an urban legend that the D-Day practice disaster was "covered up." It was in all the papers the next day! And U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings did an entire issue on the screwup of shooting down an Iranian airliner. That said, I find it VERY hard to believe that hundreds of sailors, officers, related support personnel, radar operators, P-3 Orion crew, etc. would ALL lie and cover up about a genuine "mistake." Quite the contrary,a they would admit to it. Only if it was deliberate would they cover up.
Got the radar images, though they certainly are not conclusive. As I say, the forensic evidence indicated, if anything, a BOMB, not a missile. I think there are several technical reasons a Stinger cannot have shot down this airplane.
1. Terrorists fired the missle, which not one admitted being responcible
2. It wasn't a missle. hardly the case, due to the evidence found, not only reported by those involved but by my Navy Diver buddies. (I only know 2 who went to help)
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