Posted on 07/22/2004 4:17:31 AM PDT by johnny7
During the 1980s, renowned radio commentator Paul Harvey said something that I’ve quoted often to my friends. Opining about various wars and upheavals — in the Middle East, Central and South America, Northern Ireland, and Cambodia — Harvey said, “Sometimes you have to laugh, just to keep from crying.”
During this election year — while the country is at war with shadowy terrorist networks, both here and abroad — Paul Harvey’s advice seems especially appropriate. Americans have already come up with various combinations of “Berger & Ketchup” to describe the relationship between former Clinton Administration national-security advisor Sandy Berger and presidential candidate Senator John Kerry (who is married to ketchup-fortune heiress Teresa Heinz-Kerry). Adding to that, I will say that Berger’s recently-abdicated title as an “informal advisor” to the Kerry campaign is starting to look a lot like the “unofficial spokesman” on the Wendy’s Hamburgers TV commercials. (Oddly, the Wendy’s theme has shown up in another of my articles about the Flight 800 mystery.)
The recent revelation by Sandy Berger that he removed highly-classified documents from the National Archives, and then “lost” them, has numerous implications during this election season. Berger was the national-security advisor to Bill Clinton, who is the most scandal-laden president in US history. Flight 800 was destroyed in mid-air during the 1996 re-election campaign of Bill Clinton. Another high-level Clinton insider — former White House chief of staff, turned ABC-TV news analyst, George Stephanopoulos — referred to the bombing of Flight 800 on the air. With that remark — and his associated description of being inside the “other situation room” in the White House at the time of the Flight 800 disaster — a direct link was made between Clinton and Flight 800. This link was, of course, overlooked by the “mainstream” news media.
So, what does this link between Bill Clinton and Flight 800 have to do with the current John Kerry presidential campaign? Well, perhaps nothing, except thatJohn Kerry also referred to Flight 800 as a terrorist incident in a televised interview. The problem is that, with the upcoming release of the final report of the “9-11” Commission, the general public will have the opportunity to refresh their memory about the link between Flight 800 and terrorism. Having spent years on the Senate Intelligence Committee, it is now impossible for Kerry to deny that he had access to information about any link between Flight 800 and terrorist acts. Therefore, if such a link is proven, then a line can be drawn between the downing of Flight 800 in 1996 and the “9-11” attacks in 2001. Again, because of his committee experience and his televised interview, Kerry cannot now distance himself from his comments about “9-11”. Follow along: if a link is made in the public’s mind between terrorism, Flight 800, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and “9-11”, then what is the logical result? Surely, donations to the Democratic Party and to the Kerry campaign would dry up rapidly. Therefore, it is imperative to the Kerry campaign to destroy evidence of such a link. Enter: Sandy Berger. He is a person that had intimate knowledge of high-level decisions about terrorism, and access to the records of those decisions. Now, it is public knowledge that Berger has “lost” some of those documents. Were the “lost” documents related to Flight 800? The only person that knows hasn’t talked.
What is known is that there are numerous pieces of evidence that point to the involvement of a missile in the TWA Flight 800 disaster. What is known is that President Clinton issued an executive order that was targeted to silence the Navy SEALs that were on scene at the Flight 800 debris field in the Atlantic Ocean. What is known is that the FBI was very embarrassed when news of Bureau interest in missile technology became public. (Read the portion about the Teledyne fax to Dee Muma.) What is known is that the Navy SEALs are following the Flight 800 story. What is known is that there were other terrorist plots on US soil between 1996 and 2001. What is known is that the Clinton Administration ignored warnings about Operation Bojinka, and thus paved the way for the “9-11” attacks. What is known is that Clinton wanted to cover his tracks about the probable Bojinka—“9-11” link. What is known is that Berger is a close ally of both Clinton and Kerry. What is known is that Berger removed highly-classified documents from the National Archives. What is known is that those documents were related to information examined by the 9-11 Commission about the extent of terrorist operations in America prior to 11 September 2001. (operations that apparently continue today) What is known is that Bill Clinton and his ilk will do anything to gain and retain political power. And, just recently, it became known that Operation Iraqi Freedom had more justification than Kerry has admitted.
As this article is being written, a Federal appeals court is in session in Massachusetts. The topic is the secrecy over autopsy reports of the Flight 800 crash victims. As I reported last week, independent researcher and electrical engineer Graeme Sephton — vice-president of FIRO, and founding president of FOIAC — is winning so far in his lawsuit against the FBI. The suit is trying to force the Bureau to release autopsy reports, which allegedly contain proof of missile shrapnel in the bodies of Flight 800 victims. If the lawsuit is successful, then the official Clinton Administration story about Flight 800 will be blown to bits. The political explosion, however, will not only affect the elusive “Clinton legacy”. The fireball would also burn up the chances of John Kerry to become elected as President of the United States. And, with that would come the destruction of any potential pardons of criminal charges for culpability in a Flight 800 cover-up. And, the shrapnel from this explosion would also shred the hopes of other Democratic Party candidates, especially in Massachusetts. The timing of Berger’s revelation that he “lost” valuable documents — coming in between last week’s article about the lawsuit, and today’s court hearing — seems quite suspicious. And, the fact that the hearing is being held in Kerry’s home state certainly adds fuel to the speculation — especially considering that a Fox-TV news item mentioned the lawsuit on the Flight 800 anniversary last Saturday. It appears to me that Berger’s revelations about illegal activity are designed to take heat off Kerry, in the same way that Janet Reno’s raid on the compound outside Waco seemed timed to take media attention away from the indictment of Hillary Clinton.
Because of my own experience in the Air Force, I know that it might never be possible to determine which documents disappeared at the hands of Sandy Berger. When documents reach a certain level of classification, even the table of contents listing the documents is classified. Therefore, only people with that level of clearance, and a specific “need to know”, may be granted access to even the table of contents. Most members of the public do not realize that there are actually several layers of classification above Top Secret. If the Clinton White House did, in fact, engage in a cover-up of the shoot-down of Flight 800, then the most likely “classification authority” would have been Sandy Berger. He would have been under great incentive to hide the proof under the highest classification possible. Thus, even proof that such documents ever existed would be difficult to access.
Were the missing documents shredded, and/or burned? If so, then did Berger “fry” any records of the truth about the downing of Flight 800? (I had to make a joke about it, because, “Sometimes, you have to laugh, just to keep from crying.”)
From what was shown on news footage, the parts were blasted with firehoses as they came out of the water and prior to loading on the decks. Many sites have also pointed this out. Don't the ship firehoses use surface water?
yes...they do from what I am told. I wasn't in the navy.
my buds were. I don't know if they were involved with the hosing on the decks. They just said that hosing them down was required.
And let's say that Condi and Bush and the rest of the administration "know" that the official story is a lie, but they can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt to an unreasonable press corp. On how many Clinton scandals has that scenario been played out? For example, do you believe that Vince Foster committed suicide and/or that he committed suicide in Ft. Marcy park?
You can have it several ways. Maybe Bush believes it. Or perhaps they know report is a lie but the Bush administration can't prove it. We live in a political world. Making such unprovable charges would create a host of enemies out of the people and organizations that signed off on the report, so the administration either quietly investigates or is busy enough with other things to let it go. You have to pick your battles and maybe right now Flt. 800's not the hill they want to die on.
Heck, you can't even get the democrats to admit that they publically stated that they believed that Saddam had WMDs. And look at the heat Bush has taken for the British report on the Niger uranium story that turned out to be true. For that matter, look at how Clinton is dancing around his missed opportunity to take OBL from the Sudanese.
If Bush has this much trouble getting public acknowledgment for these things, do you really expect him to, assuming that he knows but can't prove, publically refute the official story and say that a terrorist missile took out Flt. 800? And why must it be AQ? Was there even knowledge of AQ at that time?
President Bush is not responsible for fixing everything that happened on Clinton's watch. Clinton has spent his entire life covering his tracks and he's still a free man. And let's not forget Sen. Clinton is still at work in high places keeping the bodies buried.
Clinton couldn’t even get a hummer in his own office without the world knowing about.
The National Archives is apparently wide open. The real secret is that our government is largely incompetent at keeping secrets and equally incompetent in finding out those of our enemies.
Bureaucratic incompetence is the real threat to our national security.
It's still too much to believe. Again, you have hundreds, perhaps THOUSANDS of insiders who would have some knowledge and a BIG payday from a book contract and or the Dem smear machine (even if it could be traced back to Clinton, the immediate impact would be "Bush knew"). I'm telling you, there is no way this could stay bottled up. No way, regardless of motives.
To be more clear, the aircraft parts were lifted by cranes out of the water. As the parts were held over the water, they were blasted with firehoses...news footage of several ships doing same.
I can't wait to see him and his lawyer start screaming "entrapment"...that he was TRAPPED by repeated sloppy criminal behavior...
Still peculiar, why hose off a part with seawater when it was already in seawater?
Keep us up on any inside information.
I have no idea what happened to TWA Flight 800, but I am nearly 100% certain of this: the "official" cause of the crash was utter bullsh!t.
Which immediately brings up an inevitable question: Why would anyone in an investigative capacity be interested in providing an erroneous cause of an airline crash?
Understood. I have no problem implicating the Bush administration in a cover-up about Flight 800, since this is apparently what they are doing with regard to the Oklahoma City bombing.
And I've said here on FR many times that IF TWA Flight 800 was shot down, it didn't involve terrorists . . . it was an accidental shoot-down by a naval vessel.
Alert! Now you people who think these conspiracy kooks are "just out for the truth" know where all this is heading.
I think the real question is why people can't accept a real cause as the real cause, and are obsessed with jumping into UFOs and grassy knolls.
So, what does this link between Bill Clinton and Flight 800 have to do with the current John Kerry presidential campaign? Well, perhaps nothing, except that John Kerry also referred to Flight 800 as a terrorist incident in a televised interview.
You also have to figure that multiple references like this to "terrorist incidents" in comments about Flight 800 are more than just a coincidence, right?
You believe whatever you want.
"Put not your trust in princes." -- Psalm 146:3
I've read a fairly credible explanation of what may have happened off the south shore of Long Island that night, and while I have no idea exactly what happened, there's no doubt in my mind that this explanation is more credible than the staged animation that the NTSB and FBI used to illustrate the cause of the crash.
Ask any pilot who saw that "performance" what thay thought of it, and to a person they'll tell you that it was utter bullsh!t.
Big Thanks for the PPPIIINNNGGG.....Bkmrk for later...not enough hours in the day it seems!!
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