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Obeying the law [Barf Alert!]
The Guardian ^ | 22JUL04 | The Guardian

Posted on 07/22/2004 3:49:26 AM PDT by familyop

[UK (Britain)]

Once again Israel has vowed to flout a United Nations resolution and once again America will let it. In voting against the general assembly's resolution demanding that Israel obey a World Court ruling to dismantle the wall it is building through the West Bank, the deputy US ambassador James Cunningham said the move was missing the point. "The resolution diverts attention from where it should be - on the practical efforts to move the parties towards realisation of the ultimate goal of two states living side by side in peace and security," he said. But who exactly is making these practical efforts? Not the US, if we are to believe the analysis written by the Department for International Development and signed off by the development secretary Hilary Benn. DfID said there was a real risk of US disengagement from the peace process, just at the moment when diplomatic pressure was needed to stop it collapsing. One can always look for reasons for inaction: the current meltdown within the Palestinian Authority, a fast-approaching presidential election in November in which nothing must be said by either candidate to upset Jewish voters, the all-consuming effort to stabilise Iraq. The same argument that it is never a good time ensured the longevity of attempts to seek a political settlement in Northern Ireland. But time is not on the side of those who maintain that oxygen can be administered to the limp corpse of the road map. The separation barrier is going up, and no one but the profoundly optimistic believes it will come down soon. A new political border is being created, effectively dividing the West Bank into three or four cantons, and America and Europe look on, as if powerless to stop it.

Israel argues that the choice is between life or death. To stop building the barrier, Ariel Sharon's spokesman Raanan Gissin said, would be to abdicate Israel's inalienable right to self-defence. But 90% of the argument is not about Israel's right to build a wall, but where it builds it. Palestinian lawyers argue that if the barrier were a purely defensive measure, it would be built along the 1967 border known as the green line. The World Court agreed. It found that the first 125 miles of a planned 435-mile barrier, involved the confiscation and destruction of Palestinian land, the disruption of the lives of thousands of civilians and the de facto annexation of large areas of territory: in other words a land grab. While the Israeli supreme court argued that the wall was not illegal, it did find that the barrier caused unjustified hardship to 35,000 Palestinians in one area , by cutting them off from their lands, schools and hospitals. The supreme court ruling gives Mr Sharon the opportunity to drag the barrier closer back to the green line. His cabinet will shortly consider one of three options presented by the army. But while some of the less grievous injustices may be reversed, there is no evidence that Mr Sharon has any intention of abandoning the three main salients into Palestinian territory, Ariel, Maale Adumim and Etzion, which account for most of the expropriated territory.

International pressure should be applied on Mr Sharon now. But if, in the real world, nothing will change until the battle for the White House is over, the case for economic sanctions against Israel will start to build inexorably.The European Union is Israel's biggest trading partner and, as Gerald Kaufman has argued, member countries could make trade agreements conditional on Israel's compliance with international law. While Jack Straw told Arab leaders in the run-up to the Iraq war that there were two types of UN resolution - the binding ones which applied to Saddam and the non-binding ones which applied to Israel, this is not a good argument. A just settlement in the Middle East will never be achieved by looking the other way.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: american; antiamerican; antijewish; antisemitic; european; hezbollah; israel; on; proterrorist; terror; war; wot
Another European, Anti-Jewish, Anti-American rant...
1 posted on 07/22/2004 3:49:27 AM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

That's the Guardian for you.


2 posted on 07/22/2004 3:55:13 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: familyop
The Guardian is an extreme Leftist U.K paper and has been known for its anti-Israel stance. In any case, Israel has no intention of not taking the necessary measures to protect its citizens in order to placate a hostile world opinion. And it behooves the British press in particular to remind themselves where the British government reneged on its promises to the Jewish people during the Palestine Mandate. None of this is ancient history in Israel.
3 posted on 07/22/2004 3:59:55 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: familyop
Once again Israel has vowed to flout a United Nations resolution..

Breaking the law? What law?

F U UN

4 posted on 07/22/2004 4:00:59 AM PDT by Looking4Truth (NEVER trust Muslims to keep their word.)
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To: Looking4Truth

UN General Assembly resolutions are not binding. The Palestinians can get an operative resolution in the Security Council where it will face a certain American veto.


5 posted on 07/22/2004 4:05:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: All
Once again Israel has vowed to flout a United Nations resolution and once again America will let it.

So, once again "da evil Joos," aided and abetted by their running-dog lickspittle lackeys, "Imperial America," spits in the face of International Law...

Below is a clickable logo, and while it appears to be about the oil for food scandal, there are hundreds of links documenting the UN's long and sorry history of malignacy towards free people and general malfeasance.

Why anyone would give them money, power, respect, credibility, or the time of day, escapes me:


6 posted on 07/22/2004 4:17:27 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: familyop
Rewrite:

International pressure should be applied on Mr Arafat now. But if, in the real world, nothing will change until the battle for the White House is over, the case for economic sanctions against Palestine will start to build inexorably.The European Union is Israel's biggest trading partner and, as Gerald Kaufman has argued, member countries could make trade agreements conditional on Palestine's compliance with international law. While Jack Straw told Arab leaders in the run-up to the Iraq war that there were two types of UN resolution - the binding ones which applied to Saddam and the non-binding ones which applied to Palestine, this is not a good argument. A just settlement in the Middle East will never be achieved by looking the other way.

Better.

7 posted on 07/22/2004 4:26:53 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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" The Guardian is an extreme Leftist U.K paper and has been known for its anti-Israel stance."

Yes. The only sometimes pro-American and pro-Jewish newspapers in England that I know of are the Telegraph and the Sun.

The Independent and others are also very anti-American and anti-Jewish most of the time.
8 posted on 07/22/2004 4:33:47 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons.)
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To: goldstategop

Oops...wrong thread. ;-)

On second look, the Independent just might be getting more objective. We'll see, in time. I have a few really nasty older columns from that publication.


9 posted on 07/22/2004 4:51:01 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons.)
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To: goldstategop

And, before we even get to who advocates for which resolution, it should be noted that there is no such thing as "international law", at least in the sense that the frothing at the mouth crowd uses it.


10 posted on 07/22/2004 5:05:21 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Ignorance is king. Many would not prosper by its abdication.")
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To: Gefreiter

When it comes to our national security, "International law" is whatever the United States says it is. As it should be.


11 posted on 07/22/2004 5:23:12 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: familyop

Amazing, the euros just don't get it. The Israelis could wipe the Palestinians off the map if the US would turn them loose. It is only pressure by the US on ISRAEL that prevents full scale warfare. Yet the Euros still have the gall to blame the US for sabotaging the peace process.


12 posted on 07/22/2004 5:35:37 AM PDT by stremba
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To: MNnice

Well, seriously... we have a huge elected body of legislators responsible to all of us to make new law or amend existing law. And every couple years we get to decide whether they've done a good enough job.

Now, wtf that has to do with the UN, and a General Assembly of parasites, each lord of his little 3d world rubble pile, I've no idea.


13 posted on 07/22/2004 5:37:30 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Ignorance is king. Many would not prosper by its abdication.")
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To: MNnice

I like that.


14 posted on 07/22/2004 6:14:26 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (God bless our Veterans!!! And God bless America!!!)
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To: familyop

Gee, I thought this would be a money-for-oil scam thread, or at least a Sandy Berglar thread. Jew-bashing? That's far, far too passe!


15 posted on 07/22/2004 6:15:54 AM PDT by MortMan (Complacency is an enemy sniper)
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To: familyop
The liberal rag in my area is going down the tubes, they are giving the paper away free now, and they can't even give it away.

Israel was told that it was legal for it to take enough land to have "defensible borders", since the cowardly international community won't mark the area, Israel will.

That was the agreement, after the Six Day War and Israel took the Sinai from Egypt, and owned most of the middle east. Israel would give the attacking parties most of their lost territory back, territory in which Israel had developed oil wells, and refineries, in exchange for recognition, defensible borders, and eventual recognition of a Palestinian State. Egypt was the only one to honor the agreement.
16 posted on 07/22/2004 6:53:12 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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