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LIVE THREAD: Hardball's 12 Missed Chances That Could Have Prevented 9/11
MSNBC ^ | July 21, 2004 | Chris Matthews/Lisa Myers

Posted on 07/21/2004 4:51:15 PM PDT by Howlin

On Sept. 11, 2001 — it all seemed so sudden, and without warning. But three years and two investigations later, it's clear there was a tragic trail of missed opportunities to stop some of the hijackers, disrupt the plot and perhaps save 3,000 lives.

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We can be prepared to DISCUSS/REFUTE the following items that will be discussed on this show tonight at 9:00 P.M. EDT.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 911; binladen; missedopportunity; preventing911; soxgate
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To: Howlin

If Chrissy is up to his usual version of fair and balanced, I'm sure he will have James Carville, Michael Moore and Molly Ivans to comment on the presentation


181 posted on 07/21/2004 6:33:02 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("KERRY" & "EDWARDS" ARE TWO "JOHNS" THAT NEED FLUSHING!)
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To: MJY1288

I think Chrissy definitely qualifies as a "girlie man."


182 posted on 07/21/2004 6:34:16 PM PDT by Merry
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To: Howlin

Half an hour through the show....and I can say that a lot of the problems were organizational issues.....That Senate and House folks have regulatory oversight of.

I am SO Sure we will see the Congress types acknowledge their own fowl ups.....

Oh wait...that's why they called the hearings...so they could control what results our shown.

TERM LIMITS FOR CONGRESS!


183 posted on 07/21/2004 6:35:07 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: MJY1288

Oh Gawd .. I turned on CNN for a second

Edwards is a parrot and REPEATS THE SAME DANG THING ALL THE TIME


184 posted on 07/21/2004 6:35:40 PM PDT by Mo1 (50 States .... I want all 50 States come November!)
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To: Merry

Naaah, he's a punk :-)


185 posted on 07/21/2004 6:35:49 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("KERRY" & "EDWARDS" ARE TWO "JOHNS" THAT NEED FLUSHING!)
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To: Mo1

John Edwards sees two Americas, Plaintiffs and Defendants


186 posted on 07/21/2004 6:37:26 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("KERRY" & "EDWARDS" ARE TWO "JOHNS" THAT NEED FLUSHING!)
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To: spectre

Exactly.

Maybe the Democrats will hire people who are perfect.


187 posted on 07/21/2004 6:37:28 PM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is the day AFTER my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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To: Mo1

And Liz needs a breast reduction .. *L*


188 posted on 07/21/2004 6:38:18 PM PDT by Mo1 (50 States .... I want all 50 States come November!)
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To: Mo1

I flipped over for just a minute and I cannot believe that Elizabeth Edwards wore a sky blue sleeping bag to a television interview.


189 posted on 07/21/2004 6:38:44 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("It's the Hypocrisy, Stupid,")
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To: Mo1

Frances Townsend is a good representative of the administration!!


190 posted on 07/21/2004 6:38:54 PM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: windchime

April 12, 2004

Kerry Ignored 9/11 Warnings

John Kerry had far more warnings than George Bush about 9/11 and completely ignored them. On May 6, 2001 (3 months before the PDB) Brian Sullivan, a retired FAA special agent from the Boston area, Kerry's home state, sent a letter to John Kerry outlining exactly how the 9/11 tragedy would happen. He even mentioned Logan Airport, the very airport two of the 9/11 planes took off from.

Sullivan's letter (pgs 1,2) was prompted by a report on Fox 25 TV News in Boston. They set up an undercover investigation where in 9 out of 10 attempts, news crews got knives thru airport security. Here are some cuts from Sulivan's letter to his Senator, John Kerry:

"With the concept of jihad, do you think it would be difficult for a determined terrorist to get on a plane and destroy himself and all other passengers?"

...Think what the result would be of a coordinated attack which took down several domestic flights on the same day. With our current screening, this is more than possible. It is almost likely.

...The DOT OIG has become an ineffective overseer of the FAA, ... Scathing reports have been developed on airport/airline security and FAA facility security. Still, the culture continues to perpetuate itself and managers have been promoted up the chain, despite the fact that they've supported this facade of security and abused line agents who dare speak the truth.

After receiving no reply from Senator Kerry, Sullivan had a copy of the tape hand delivered to John Kerry's office. 11 Weeks later, after Mr. Sullivan told Kerry the DOT OIG was ineffective and urged congressional hearings, John Kerry finally replied:

Thank you for contacting me regarding your work on civil aviation issues. I appreciate hearing from you.

I have forwarded your tape of WFXT-25's recent report on airport security to the Department of Transportaion's Office of the Inspector General. (OIG) My staff has requested that the OIG respond...

A total of 3 FAA agents contacted John Kerry in the months before 9/11 and tried to get him to do something. Each one detailed the problems at Boston's Logan as well of other airports. One agent even offered to fly to Washington at his own expense to brief Kerry on the problem. A Kerry aid told him not to bother because, "You're not a constituent."

John Kerry, more than anyone, could have stopped 9/11. He had multiple warnings detailing how the hijackings would be done. He chose to ignore the warnings.

I know all the "usual suspects" that have been harping on what Bush knew in the Aug 6, PDB will now have the same moral outrage about this. Right? Right?


191 posted on 07/21/2004 6:39:24 PM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is the day AFTER my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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To: Howlin
I guess I just don't understand hair anymore. It's driving me crazy to look at women on television, especially older women, all gussied up to look their best, with greasy, droopy hair that looks like they got caught in the rain.

Martha Stewart, Elizabeth Edwards, Judy Woodruff, and countless others.
U G L Y

192 posted on 07/21/2004 6:39:37 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@Kerry +Edwards + Wilson +Berger = gigolo, ambulance chaser, liar, thief.com)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

OMG .. I can't handle Edwards ..

I'd rather listen to Chrissy Matthews, then those two


193 posted on 07/21/2004 6:40:24 PM PDT by Mo1 (50 States .... I want all 50 States come November!)
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To: Mo1

Mark Geragos needs to step aside; Edwards replaces him as microphone hog!


194 posted on 07/21/2004 6:40:36 PM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is the day AFTER my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

LOL!


195 posted on 07/21/2004 6:41:09 PM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is the day AFTER my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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To: spectre

That was then, this is NOW!



-That's the point we should all think about.
All this stuff they are saying that the FBI and CIA etc should have done....
If they had done that before 9/11.....People would have been screaming their heads off about 'Abuse of Power' 'Military State' 'Insert radical scream here'

That is the problem with this whole 9/11 commission.
They claim that everyone should have been the Great Carnac...and seen everything coming.

Yeah, folks screwed up ...no doubt about it.....but in the end...this will just make hard working Agents/LEOs take a publicity hit for organizational matters forced by Congressional Gimps.


196 posted on 07/21/2004 6:41:22 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: spectre

That was then, this is NOW!



-That's the point we should all think about.
All this stuff they are saying that the FBI and CIA etc should have done....
If they had done that before 9/11.....People would have been screaming their heads off about 'Abuse of Power' 'Military State' 'Insert radical scream here'

That is the problem with this whole 9/11 commission.
They claim that everyone should have been the Great Carnac...and seen everything coming.

Yeah, folks screwed up ...no doubt about it.....but in the end...this will just make hard working Agents/LEOs take a publicity hit for organizational matters forced by Congressional Gimps.


197 posted on 07/21/2004 6:41:27 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I cannot believe that Elizabeth Edwards wore a sky blue sleeping bag to a television interview

FOFL .. doesn't she look awful

Did you see the photo in Time Magazine of her?

WOW .. did they photoshop her or what

Oh good .. James Woosley is on Hardball

198 posted on 07/21/2004 6:43:28 PM PDT by Mo1 (50 States .... I want all 50 States come November!)
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To: Mo1

OMG! Edwards wife does not have neck!


199 posted on 07/21/2004 6:44:34 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: Mo1

OMG! Edwards wife does not have neck!


200 posted on 07/21/2004 6:44:37 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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