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Habeas Dangerous
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | July 20, 2004 | Henry Mark Holzer

Posted on 07/21/2004 2:43:19 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Late last month, the Supreme Court of the United States decided its first three War-on-Terrorism cases. It’s bad enough that two of the three decisions considerably weaken the President’s power as constitutional Commander-in-Chief to fight that war, exemplify judicial activism at its worst, and again expose the Court as an Orwellian “more equal than others” branch of government. Worse, is that the decision in the third case – Rasul v. Bush – augurs ill not only for the War-on-Terrorism, but for all future United States military actions. To understand the importance of Rasul and the danger it poses to America’s national security, it is necessary to examine first the other two cases.

Rumsfeld v. Padilla. An American citizen, Jose Padilla (the so-called “dirty bomber”) was arrested in Chicago, brought to New York, later designated an “enemy combatant,” and given into military custody in South Carolina. Assigned counsel sought habeas corpus in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York (in Manhattan), challenging Padilla’s detention.

In a narrow technical decision, the Supreme Court held that Padilla’s lawyer had sued in the wrong jurisdiction. Since the “immediate custodian” who had control of enemy combatant Padilla was the warden of the naval brig in South Carolina, that jurisdiction, not New York, was where the alleged dirty bomber’s case belonged. Accordingly, the Supreme Court told Padilla that if he wanted to challenge the detention, he would have to re-file his case in the South Carolina federal court. Thus, Padilla decided nothing substantive—the case only further defined the statutory meaning of “immediate custodian.” (Justices Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg and Breyer were prepared, knowingly, to misinterpret the habeas corpus statute and reach the merits because Padilla’s claims, apparently unlike the plain meaning of a venerable federal statute, were “important”).

Hamdi v. Rumsfeld. When the clerk of the Supreme Court published this decision, he should have provided a scorecard: There was a plurality opinion written by Justice O’Connor, joined by Chief Justice Rehnquist and Justices Kennedy and Breyer. Justice Thomas, though writing in dissent supporting the government on another issue, provided the crucial fifth unequivocal vote for the proposition that the President could legally designate Hamdi and others similarly situated (American citizens, and non-citizens alike) as “enemy combatants” who can be held without criminal charges being laid, and without being tried, until an armed conflict is ended, whenever that is. This plurality-plus-Thomas opinion relied on the World War II Supreme Court precedent of Ex parte Quirin, in which a unanimous Court held that the President could hold the Nazi saboteurs (at least one of whom was an American citizen) for the duration of the war. (Indeed, after trial before a Military Tribunal, some of the Quirin spies were put to death).

However, the fractured Hamdi opinions reveal what must have been serious horse-trading within the Court itself, because while that part of the Hamdi decision just described was certainly a victory for the President’s power as Commander-in-Chief to fight the War-on-Terrorism, that win did not come without a substantial and dangerous cost.

For the second part of the opinion—obviously a compromise—another voting lineup formed: the original plurality (O’Connor, Rehnquist, Kennedy and Breyer), now plus Souter and Ginsburg (six votes), and without Thomas. Although Souter and Ginsburg would have preferred Padilla to go free unless the government charged him with a criminal act, they went along with the O’Connor-Rehnquist-Kennedy-Breyer ruling: “We hold that . . . due process demands that a citizen held in the United States as an enemy combatant be given a meaningful opportunity to contest the factual basis for that detention before a neutral decision maker. . . . . Plainly, the ‘process’ Hamdi has received is not that to which he is entitled under the Due Process Clause.”

Apparently recognizing that they had just opened Pandora’s due process box, the judge-legislators deigned to provide a tiny bit of guidance for the government that now faces the task of affording enemy combatants their day in “court.” Well, yes, maybe “an appropriately authorized and properly constituted military tribunal” would suffice. That is, of course, if the Court approved of how “appropriate” the authorization and how “properly constituted” the tribunal. Testimony?: “Hearsay may need to be accepted as the most reliable available evidence from the government in such a proceeding.” But then again, maybe not. About the clearest requirement imposed by the Court was Hamdi’s and every enemy combatant’s right to counsel. Imagine this: We may soon be treated to the obscene spectacle of Hanoi-lover Ramsey Clark, Islamists-lover Stanley Cohen, terrorists-lover Lynne Steward, and their ilk, “defending” enemy combatants who hold American citizenship.

While one can’t seriously quarrel with the Supreme Court’s conclusion that American citizens captured in the United States have certain constitutional due process rights—even “enemy combatants,” who can be held until cessation of hostilities—the Hamdi decision places the government at the top of a slippery slope. Do we want the spectacle of attorneys like Ramsey Clark, Hamas’ counsel Stanely Cohen, indicted pro-terrorist Lynne Stewart and their terrorist sympathizing “progressive” colleagues at the Center for Constituional Rights and the National Lawyers Guild exploiting the many uncertainties in the Supreme Court Hamdi decision? How “meaningful” is the opportunity to contest? Is the enemy combatant limited to contesting the “factual basis” for his designation and detention, or can he make legal arguments? What does “neutral” mean? Must the “decision maker” be a judge? Is the adjudicatory process criminal or civil? Do enemy combatants have the right to an appeal, and if so where and to whom? Do rules of evidence apply, and if so which? Can the enemy combatant obtain discovery of the government’s case? Must he be given exculpatory evidence? What about other constitutional rights, like protection against self incrimination and double jeopardy? Are enemy combatants entitled to compulsory process and to be confronted by witnesses? How about being read their Miranda rights in some Afghanistan cave? After all, due process is due process!

In the face of the O’Connor-Rehnquist-Kennedy-Breyer-Souter-Ginsburg opinion, and the strange-bedfellow dissent of Scalia and Stevens (who rejected entirely the “enemy combatant” concept and argued instead that, absent Congressional suspension of habeas corpus, captured Americans should be charged as criminals), only Justice Clarence Thomas understood the real issue in Hamdi, and enunciated a consistently principled position: The power to designate captured Americans as enemy combatants lay with the President, and the courts had no role except to ascertain whether he had made a good faith determination.

While the “designate-them-enemy-combatants-and-hold-them-until-the-end” portion of Hamdi is a plus for the President and those who want a no-holds-barred fight against terrorism, the due process part of the decision is a large minus. Luckily, not too many American citizens can be expected to be like Yaser Hamdi, and thus entitled to some domestic due process protections. So there won’t be much work for the Clarks, Cohens and Stewarts in those kinds of cases – and not too much risk for our country. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about the Guantanamo case.

Rasul v. Bush. On July 13, 2004, the wire services reported that “The Pentagon yesterday began informing detainees at the U.S. naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, that they could challenge their captivity before newly created military tribunals.” This notice was sent by the government as a consequence of the third Supreme Court War-on-Terrorism case—engineered by the America-hating Center for Constitutional Rights, preeminent defender of the ruthless radicals who would destroy this country.

Unlike Yaser Hamdi, Shafik Rasul (and other petitioners) were captured fighting, or otherwise acting against the United States, outside our borders. They were incarcerated at the United States Guantanamo naval base, and eventually sought habeas corpus relief to challenge their detention.

Writing for a five-justice majority, Stevens, joined by O’Connor, Souter, Ginsburg and Breyer (Kennedy concurred in the result, and Scalia dissented joined by Rehnquist and Thomas), noted that: “The [trial] court held, in reliance on our opinion in Johnson v. Eisentrager . . . (1950), that ‘aliens detained outside the sovereign territory of the United States [may not] invoke a petition for a write of habeas corpus’.” In other words, the federal district court from which enemy combatant Shafik Rasul sought habeas corpus followed Supreme Court precedent, as it was bound to do.

Rasul appealed to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. According to Stevens, “[t]he Court of Appeals affirmed. Reading Eisentrager to hold that ‘the privilege of litigation’ does not extend to aliens in military custody who have no presence in ‘any territory over which the United States is sovereign’ . . . it held that the District Court lacked jurisdiction over petitioners’ habeas actions . . . .” In other words, the Court of Appeals was also bound by the Supreme Court’s Eisentrager precedent.

But while the federal district courts and the federal courts of appeals are bound by Supreme Court precedent, the High Court itself is not—despite the venerable principle of stare decisis.

Stevens’ ruling for the Court’s majority was that: “The Court today holds that the habeas corpus statute, 28 U.S.C. Section 2241, extends to aliens detained by the United States military overseas, outside the sovereign borders of the United States and beyond the territorial jurisdictions of all its courts.”

In dissent, Scalia, for himself, Rehnquist and Thomas, wrote that: “This is not only a novel holding; it contravenes a half-century-old precedent on which the military undoubtedly relied, Johnson v. Eisentrager . . . (1950). The Court’s contention that Eisentrager was somehow negated by [the Braden case of 1973]—a decision that dealt with a different issue and did not so much as mention Eisentrager—is implausible in the extreme. This is an irresponsible overturning of settled law in a matter of extreme importance to our forces currently in the field.”

Thus did the Supreme Court liberals, aided and abetted by the turncoat O’Connor and the inconsistent Kennedy, open the doors of every federal district court in the United States to the Guantanamo detainees, many of them killers captured on the battlefield and elsewhere around the world, their murderous hands at least figuratively, and sometimes literally, soaked with the blood of Americans, our allies, and innocent civilians.

The speciousness and indefensibleness of Rasul, the nature and scope of that decision, and the danger it poses to America in general and our War-on-Terrorism in particular, was eloquently exposed by Scalia’s lengthy and comprehensive dissent. Scalia proved that Eisentrager was de facto overruled by the Stevens majority based on illogic and bad history—and with no explanation of why that case was wrongly decided a half-century ago. Today, Scalia wrote, the Court “springs a trap on the Executive . . . .” The dissenting justice also observed: that “. . . the Court boldly extends the habeas statute to the four corners of the earth,” that “[t]he consequence of this holding . . . is breathtaking. It permits an alien captured in a foreign theater of active combat to bring a Section 2241 [habeas corpus] action against the Secretary of Defense” and that “[f]rom this point forward, federal courts will entertain petitions from these [Guantanamo] prisoners, and others like them around the world, challenging actions and events far away, and forcing the courts to oversee one aspect of the Executive’s conduct of a foreign war.”

Then, albeit to no avail, Scalia confronted the Stevens majority with language from the now de facto overruled Eisentrager case:

To grant the writ to these prisoners [held in Germany] might mean that our army must transport them across the seas for hearing. This would require allocation for shipping space, guarding personnel, billeting and rations. It might also require transportation for whatever witnesses the prisoners desired to call as well as transportation for those necessary to defend legality of the sentence. The writ, since it is held to be a matter of right, would be equally available to enemies during active hostilities as in the present twilight between war and peace. Such trials would hamper the war effort and bring aid and comfort to the enemy. They would diminish the prestige of our commanders, not only with enemies but with wavering neutrals. It would be difficult to devise more effective fettering of a field commander than to allow the very enemies he is ordered to reduce submission to call him to account in his own civil courts and divert his efforts and attention from the military offensive abroad to the legal defensive at home. Nor is it unlikely that the result of such enemy litigiousness would be conflict between judicial and military opinion highly comforting to enemies of the United States.

As if these potential consequences of the Stevens majority ruling are not bad enough, consider this irony: Scalia correctly observed that “today’s clumsy countertextual reinterpretation [of the habeas corpus statute] . . . confers upon wartime prisoners greater habeas rights than domestic detainees. [Why?] The latter must challenge their present physical confinement in the district of their confinement, see Rumsfeld v. Padilla [above] . . . whereas under today’s strange holding Guantanamo Bay detainees can petition in any of the 94 federal judicial districts. * * * For this Court to create such a monstrous scheme in time of war, and in frustration of our military commanders’ reliance upon clearly stated prior law, is judicial adventurism of the worst sort.”

In typical liberal fashion, once the Stevens majority wreaked havoc on the President, the military and the country, those justices—with typical detachment—walked away from the potential consequences. “Whether and what further proceedings may become necessary after [the Government] make[s] their response to the merits of [the Guantanamo] detainees’ claims are matter we need not address now,” Stevens dismissively noted.

But unlike the cloistered liberals of the Supreme Court—irony: four of the six justices in the Stevens majority were appointed by Republican presidents—the rest of America must face the music right now. Armed with the Supreme Court’s Hamdi (due process) and Rasul (habeas corpus) decisions, and aided and comforted by radical lawyers like Clark, Cohen, Stewart, and their America-hating colleagues, the flotsam and jetsam of Guantanamo Bay, and perhaps other enemy combatants held from Afghanistan to who-knows-where-else, can now forum shop among our 94 federal judicial districts in search of judges sympathetic to tales of mistaken identity and religious persecution—anything to justify the habeas corpus petitioners’ release.

To paraphrase Godfather Don Corleone: Radical lawyers with word processors can do more harm than 100 terrorists with machine guns.


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To: jwalsh07

I am sorry that you and your brother are saddened and distressed. Now put aside the name-calling stand up straight and try to make a clear and cogent argument for your point of view - in declarative English sentances.


61 posted on 07/21/2004 7:49:08 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: jim macomber
Nothing. I don't have anywhere near the problem with Hamdi that I do with Rasul.

This is not a direct answer. It neither answers a question I asked nor does it state with any clarity a point of view. Just to be clear so that you get it, a clear question to which you could provide a clear answer would be: What do you believe the implications of Rasul and why do you find those implications so distasteful? In particular if you have no problem with President Bush sending out military judges with a commissions to convene tribunals to inquire into the status of detainees and classify them as POW's, unlawful combattants, and say neutrals and friendlies who should be released and returned to their countries of origing, then what about Rasul do you think is injurious? As I read it, that is all that is required.

62 posted on 07/21/2004 7:55:01 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: jim macomber

In particular, why do you see the requirement for a neutral hearing in Hamdi any different from the same requirement in Rasul.


63 posted on 07/21/2004 7:59:34 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Bumping to ponder later.


64 posted on 07/21/2004 8:01:15 PM PDT by snopercod (What we have lost will not be returned to us.)
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To: jwalsh07
You better read HAmilton again, you and he have vastly differing opinions on the importance of habeas.

Just like last time all you can do is put words in the mouths of others. Now tell everyone here so we can all understand, just exactly where you think Hamilton and I differ on the importance of habeas?

Otherwise, this statement is just an example of your slandering others because you cannot stand up straight and argue like a man.

The real problem is that you are at heart a petty little tyrant who loves other petty little tyrant and cannot stand the notion of someone having to tell a judge civil or military exactly on what basis someone is being held as a terrorist. I am amazed to find someone on FreeRepublic who would trust absolute power to anyone especially Ashcroft.

65 posted on 07/21/2004 8:07:00 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: jim macomber
Re Braden: But nothing in Braden supports departing from the immediate custodian rule in the traditional context of challenges to present physical confinement.

As I recall, and you may correct me if I am wrong, you are quoting Scalia's dissenting argument. The problem if I recall correctly is that Scalia is doing a deft dance around statutory interpretation to do what Scalia would not normally do, which is to use statutory silence (in this case on jurisdiction for someone confined by the U.S. government overseas) to avoid extending a right that they have under the constitution, or in this case to avoid a limitation on government power - namely that the U.S. government cannot lock someone up withot a showing somewhere that that detention is lawful.

66 posted on 07/21/2004 8:14:31 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: jwalsh07
I issued you the same challenge last time. America has held millions, literally, of POWS outside US sovereignty over the history of this nation. Find one, JUST ONE, who has been afforded habeas rights.

Whilst i agree totally with bush on Guantanamo bay i think the controversy over what should happen with Australia's detainees should be dealt with in a unconventional way . i think we can trust our great friend John Howard to ensure no terrorist walks the streets again. But i think the courts shouldn't make the decision the President should.
67 posted on 07/21/2004 8:17:48 PM PDT by newfarm4000n (Taxes for social security is theft)
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To: jim macomber

Thanks for the ping!


68 posted on 07/21/2004 9:18:07 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: jim macomber; jmstein7; AndyJackson

Thanks for the ping......I enjoyed reading this thread........but don't know enough to comment on the legal ramifications,

However, I don't believe foreign terrorist non-combatants attacking our military or plotting to attack American citizens should be entitled to the protection of our Constitution.


69 posted on 07/21/2004 9:19:57 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: okie01

"but simply in order to hamstring the military and the Commander-in-Chief."

As the bard would say "First, we kill all the lawyers..."


70 posted on 07/21/2004 9:28:49 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: jwalsh07

Methinks somebody got under your skin. When you get to the point that you are posting to yourself, it is time to take a jog, and then kiss your wife. I will have to get around to reading the decision at some point, and then render the Torie final judgment. LOL. I am somewhat torn on this issue. I wish I knew how to parse the needle.


71 posted on 07/21/2004 9:39:45 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie; AndyJackson
He lives in a parallel universe where black is white and up is down. He denies that Cuba is sovereign over GITMO even though I have twice posted the relevant wording from the lease agreement and the treaty concerning GITMO which explicitly states same.

But since ole O6 Andy "feels" that is isn't so, the lease agreement and treaty are no longer valid contracts. Its easy to see why O7 was not in the cards and impossible to understand how O6 was.

72 posted on 07/22/2004 4:32:30 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: JulieRNR21
I don't believe foreign terrorist non-combatants attacking our military or plotting to attack American citizens

How do you know they are terrorists and not U.S. citizens in the wrong place at the wrong time?

It is really simple. You hold a tribunal - which the army always used to do - and find that they are terrorists. End of story. Having done that you are free to lock them away on Guantanimo forever.

73 posted on 07/22/2004 4:36:59 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: newfarm4000n
i think the courts shouldn't make the decision the President should.

Bush is not going to go down there to personally interview each detainee. The court didn't say the courts get to make the decision. They said that Bush has to commission a judge to hold a hearing (military tribunal) and decide whether or not they are terrorists. It is really very simple and not so hard.

74 posted on 07/22/2004 4:40:20 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Torie; AndyJackson; mrsmith
Once again for the sunbaked and those not similarly afflicted:

The Court gives only two reasons why the presumption against extraterritorial effect does not apply to Guantanamo Bay. First, the Court says (without any further elaboration) that “the United States exercises ‘complete jurisdiction and control’ over the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base [under the terms of a 1903 lease agreement], and may continue to exercise such control permanently if it so chooses [under the terms of a 1934 Treaty].” Ante, at 12; see ante, at 2—3. But that lease agreement explicitly recognized “the continuance of the ultimate sovereignty of the Republic of Cuba over the [leased areas],” Lease of Lands for Coaling and Naval Stations, Feb. 23, 1903, U.S.-Cuba, Art. III, T. S. No. 418, and the Executive Branch–whose head is “exclusively responsible” for the “conduct of diplomatic and foreign affairs,” Eisentrager, supra, at 789–affirms that the lease and treaty do not render Guantanamo Bay the sovereign territory of the United States, see Brief for Respondents 21.

75 posted on 07/22/2004 4:47:19 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: AndyJackson; JulieRNR21; Alamo-Girl; Eastbound

"Re Braden: But nothing in Braden supports departing from the immediate custodian rule in the traditional context of challenges to present physical confinement.

As I recall, and you may correct me if I am wrong, you are quoting Scalia's dissenting argument. The problem if I recall correctly is that Scalia is doing a deft dance around statutory interpretation to do what Scalia would not normally do, which is to use statutory silence (in this case on jurisdiction for someone confined by the U.S. government overseas) to avoid extending a right that they have under the constitution, or in this case to avoid a limitation on government power - namely that the U.S. government cannot lock someone up withot a showing somewhere that that detention is lawful."

--I had a nagging sense that you were playing gadfly more than anything when I signed off and went to bed last night. But I can't let this misrepresentation pass. You may stand corrected. The quote is NOT from Scalia's dissent. That would be difficult since Scalia didn't dissent in that case. The quote is from the majority opinion, written by CJ Rehnquist in which Scalia joined.


76 posted on 07/22/2004 11:11:20 AM PDT by jim macomber (Author: "Bargained for Exchange", "Art & Part", "A Grave Breach" http://www.jamesmacomber.com)
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To: jim macomber

Thanks for the correction!


77 posted on 07/22/2004 11:13:16 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: jwalsh07
Once again for the sunbaked and those not similarly afflicted

Your first problem is that you cannot stand up like a man and state your position without whining and sniveling and namecalling.

Your second problem is that you are committing a rhetorical fallacy - quibbling over the differences of jurisdiction, sovereignty and "ultimate sovereignty" whatever that means.

Then you fall into the trap of being suckered in when Scalia tries the same semantic trick in order to avoid a decision that he doesn't like - and there is nothing as badly reasoned as a badly reasoned Scalia decision of which there are a number. He should be ashamed of himself - but that is a different subject.

In particular "Eisentrager, supra, at 789–affirms that the lease and treaty do not render Guantanamo Bay the sovereign territory of the United States."

Scalia's putting words into the mouths of the previous majority. Eisentrager said nothing about Cuba. It said nothing about leased territory, since the Eisentrager case dealt with cases in Germany, who had been subjected to a military tribunal.

78 posted on 07/22/2004 4:59:19 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: jim macomber; jwalsh07
Interestingly I found the following article while looking up some cites. It is particularly interesting because it was written before the decision.

The Upcoming Supreme Court Cases Involving the Guantanamo Detainees By EDWARD LAZARUS http://writ.news.findlaw.com/lazarus/20031113.html

What Will Likely Be the True Basis for the Court's Decision

In the end, however, I don't expect that the Justices are going to decide the Guantanamo cases based mainly on a reading of the Court's precedents. Neither Eisentrager nor Verdugo-Urquidez provide clear enough guidance.

Indeed, the Executive's claim of authority to act independently of any outside legal constraint, and without providing any due process, is truly unprecedented. In Eisentrager, as noted above, convictions had already been duly rendered. In Verdugo-Urquidez, a seizure was at issue; after that seizure, process could and did follow.

As a result, the Justices have lots of room, in the Guantanamo cases, to make law without disturbing previous decisions. Thus, instead of looking to precedent, I think a majority -- including Justice Anthony Kennedy, the Court's pre-eminent moralist and a crucial swing vote -- will be moved by a visceral repulsion. They will be repelled -- rightly so -- by the idea that the Executive Branch may limitlessly detain any person without trial of any kind and hold that person incommunicado without any judicial review at all.

That didn't happen in Eisentrager or Verdugo-Urquidez. But it's happening now at Guantanamo.

For these Justices, such Executive self-aggrandizement will run headlong into basic notions of Constitutional checks and balances, and of the proper role of the Judicial Branch in particular. It will also run smack into the historical view - dating back at least to the Magna Carta - that unchecked Executive authority is a basic hallmark of tyranny.

This negative reaction, moreover, is likely to be compounded by the fact that the Administration's legal arguments will importantly hinge on a claim that, even viewed charitably, is mere hair-splitting. It is the claim that Guantanamo, land that the United States holds under lease in perpetuity and over which it exercises total control, is not U.S. territory because Cuba holds "ultimate sovereignty" to the land.

For these reasons, I believe the Court will rebuke the Administration in the Guantanamo cases. At a minimum, it will require that judicial review of "enemy combatant" status be provided.

Even If Legally Defensible, the Bush Administration's Claims Are A Policy Disaster

Meanwhile, a question of surpassing importance remains unanswered. I've explained why the Bush Administration is able to concoct a plausible (though not convincing) legal basis for its claim of unrestrained power over the Guantanamo detainees. But why in the world is it choosing to do so?

In the international community, the Administration's approach exposes the nation to the corrosive charge of hypocrisy. The charge is simple but powerful: America cannot impose democratic norms on others while flouting the rule of law at home.

Meanwhile, this approach exposes Americans stationed abroad to the substantial danger that other countries will give Americans taken prisoner the same legal rights the U.S. is affording the Guantanamo detainees -- that is, none at all.

Even within our own borders, the Administration approaches creates risk and distrust. Most people recognize that, in the age of terrorism we now entered decisively, Americans will be called upon to trade some of their liberty for a greater assurance of security. But, at the same time, they hope that incursions on liberty will be minimized -- taken as a regrettable necessity, not a fresh opportunity to avariciously expand power. This hope is dashed when, as in the Guantanamo cases, the Executive Branch arrogates to itself the right to exercise totally unreviewable power. Courts patrol the boundary of our liberties. But what if the courts cannot intervene?

In sum, we can be hopeful (though never extravagantly) that the Guantanamo cases will mark a decisive high note in the Supreme Court's sporadic history of checking unbridled governmental power. But it will remain a sad and troubling fact that the hubris of the Bush Administration made this test of national character necessary in the first place.

79 posted on 07/22/2004 5:06:38 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: jim macomber
I already said that I was working from memory - and misremembered as I said.

The issues that the SC are dealing with in Ahrens and Braden are very complex. The court is doing a delicate balance between observing the administrative convenience that was provided for in the statute with each judge within his jurisdiction, while avoiding the constitutional hazard of allowing the statute to be constructed so that it denies a habeas right altogether - at least in some circusmstances - in which case the statute becomes unconstitutional.

The problem with relying on precedent in Rasul is that it presents a new problem. Detainees were held under the powers of the U.S. overseas without benefit of any hearing whatsoever. THAT case had never been brought to the Supreme Court before, partly because no administration apparently had tried it before.

80 posted on 07/22/2004 5:18:08 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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