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Black & right: Black Americans almost uniformly opposed to homosexual marriage
WORLD ^ | 7/24/04 | Gene Edward Veith

Posted on 07/21/2004 7:56:57 AM PDT by rhema

THE METHODISTS FOUGHT, THE PRESBYTERIANS (USA) dithered, and the Episcopalians gave in as their national conventions struggled over what to do about homosexuality. But the African Methodist Episcopal Church (AME), the largest black church in the country with 2.5 million members, voted in its national convention unanimously not to allow pastors to perform same-sex marriages.

Black Americans tend to be liberal politically. They are the most reliable components of the Democratic Party's base, with the possible exception of gays, whose causes Democrats and liberals are championing. And yet, black Americans are among the demographic groups most opposed to gay marriage.

This frustrates gay activists and their allies. African-Americans have experienced terrible discrimination. Why aren't they more sympathetic with the discrimination that gays experience? There used to be laws against blacks marrying whites. Just as those racist laws needed to be repealed, surely the laws against men marrying men also need to be repealed. Blacks and gays should be natural allies, liberals are saying.

Of course, some black leaders -- like former presidential candidate and ordained minister Al Sharpton -- follow the party line of the liberal establishment. But across the country, black pastors have been staging rallies against gay marriage. African-Americans bitterly resent the attempt by homosexual activists to appropriate the civil-rights movement for their cause. Even the extremely liberal Congressional Black Caucus has denounced comparisons of the gay-marriage movement to the civil-rights struggles of the 1960s.

"Why are blacks, who know so well the reality of discrimination, so uniformly unsympathetic to the case that the gay community is making?" That question is raised by Star Parker, a black evangelical, in a column for Scripps Howard News Service. She says that the main reason is that the civil-rights movement depended on objective moral truth. Homosexual marriage, on the contrary, depends on a rejection of objective moral truth.

"It is not just that they know when their movement is being hijacked," she quotes Wilfred McClay, history professor at the University of Tennessee, as saying. "It is that the religious sensibility that animated the civil-rights movement, and that is still very much alive in the American black community today, is bound up in a biblical worldview that would no more countenance the radical redefinition of marriage than it would the re-imposition of slavery."

"Blacks know instinctively that the debate on gay marriage is the symptom and not the problem," says Ms. Parker. "They know that the root problem is the implicit de-legitimization and marginalization in the United States today of traditional standards of right and wrong." She argues that it was just such a marginalization of right and wrong that allowed slavery. "Without an anchor in ultimate standards, blacks know that the best politics and law, even in as great a country as ours, can lead anywhere."

Concepts such as justice, freedom, and human rights depend on a worldview that recognizes transcendent, objective, moral truths. If morality is just something that we can construct and reconstruct according to our own preferences, as postmodernists believe, then justice, freedom, and human rights will be in jeopardy. To reject universal teachings about sexual morality and to presume to redefine marriage to include homosexual relationships may seem kind and tolerant. But that comes with a horrible price, the repudiation of the very moral framework that makes kindness and tolerance possible.

One might say that black Americans are suffering the consequences of the sexual revolution. The whole culture has drifted away from sexual morality, and African-Americans have been paying the highest price, in the troubled children, the crime, and the poverty that accompany communities that do without marriage. But whites as well as blacks are affected by the moral breakdown. Among white women, Ms. Parker points out, the incidence of out-of-wedlock births is 25 percent -- what it was for black women 40 years ago.

The civil-rights movement of the 1960s was moral. The gay-rights movement is not. It is that simple. Perhaps African-Americans and their churches could start exerting the moral leadership that our whole country desperately needs. —•


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; blacks; homosexual; homosexualagenda; prisoners; samesexmarriage
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To: rdb3
Nope; it's quite simple, and your pretense otherwise is painfully transparent.

Whether or not A is the correct thing to do is, as I illustrated, completely independent of whether or not someone who does A is acting from ulterior motives.

41 posted on 07/21/2004 4:43:55 PM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: steve-b
Nope; it's quite simple, and your pretense otherwise is painfully transparent.

Yeah, there's something "painfully transparent" all right. You're missing it rather conveniently, however.


$710.96... The price of freedom.

42 posted on 07/21/2004 5:20:21 PM PDT by rdb3 (OPEN SOURCE: Millions of open minds can't be wrong.)
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To: Quester

I wish I could say I agree, but I see the institution of marriage going down the drain, together with the family, and the Constitution, and the black community is doing nothing to help stop that.


43 posted on 07/21/2004 7:31:19 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
I wish I could say I agree, but I see the institution of marriage going down the drain, together with the family, and the Constitution, and the black community is doing nothing to help stop that.

Do you know of any community, (other than that of the church), ... which is ?

44 posted on 07/22/2004 7:01:53 AM PDT by Quester
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To: Quester

The impression the article tries to give is that the black community is uniformly opposed to gay marriage. My point is that they are not so opposed to it that they are willing to do anything about it.


45 posted on 07/22/2004 7:04:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
The impression the article tries to give is that the black community is uniformly opposed to gay marriage. My point is that they are not so opposed to it that they are willing to do anything about it.

The truth is that this election will tell the tale.

The vast majority of polled blacks will testify to a vocal opposition to gay marriage.

How this translates into votes will be another matter.

I would suspect that there will be blacks who will be pulled over to Bush solely over the gay marriage issue. But I predict that these numbers won't be anything overwhelming.

I've experienced the same frustration with the black vote versus the predominate black opinion on the issue of abortion.

It's the classic case of having to choose between voting for one's own (presumed) self-interests vs. voting based on principle.

46 posted on 07/22/2004 8:35:35 AM PDT by Quester
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To: Quester

The problem is that black loyalty to the Dem party trumps every other issue. That is why our generation is doomed to be governed by Democrats who have no clue how a government should be run. It also presents a very grave risk that democracy in America will ultimately go the way of the dodo.


47 posted on 07/22/2004 9:03:11 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Explain? Why do you say that?


48 posted on 07/22/2004 8:35:31 PM PDT by rave123
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To: no more apples

But does this mean it is held in low regard? If that is the case how about people that get married one day and divorce the next as a joke (prevelant in the white community). Is this behavior holding marriage in high regard?


49 posted on 07/22/2004 8:38:00 PM PDT by rave123
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To: DameAutour

Thanks for your comments. This is more factual to the reason that blacks dislike the gay issue. It is interesting to read the generalities stated about blacks like they don't believe in marriage and they all have children by different men. I guarantee you that middle class blacks are not like this. Yet this is the same board that's asking blacks to vote as republicans. Kinda like saying all whites marry and then divorce the next day or so, have been married more than once and therefore disregard marriage.


50 posted on 07/22/2004 8:49:00 PM PDT by rave123
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To: Brilliant

Actually most blacks disagree with it; however, there are greater issues. Doesn't stop the fact that they disagree with it. Doesn't mean they can stop it either, if they could they would be miracle workers.


51 posted on 07/22/2004 8:59:20 PM PDT by rave123
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