Posted on 07/20/2004 11:14:11 PM PDT by propertius
Edited on 07/21/2004 11:16:05 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Update from Wash Times: A U.S. military spokesman in Tikrit told United Press International that the report was untrue. "Nothing's been found. The report is not factual," said Master Sgt. Robert Cowens, a spokesman for the 1st Infantry Division... A spokesman with Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's office told UPI that the report concerning the alleged missiles and warheads emerged "while gathering information for Saddam Hussein's tribunal" during the interrogation of a captured former official of Saddam's regime.
Al Sabah, the Iraqi newspaper funded by the Coalition Provisional Authority, reports on its front page this morning that a former senior Ba'ath party activist has led coalition troops to three nuclear warheads hidden in a bunker.
Will post translation when we have it.
To: All
Here is story in full:
Headline: Khidhur (or Khidhir) al-Douri, back from the dead, reveals three nuclear missiles
Sources in the Interior ministry and the National Security Advisor's Office refused to comment on news reports that three missiles with nuclear warheads had been seized during the arrest of Khidhur al-Douri, the former Ba'ath party member.
Iraqi political sources, who requested anonimity, inisisted that Iraqi security authorities arrested al-Douri and seized the missiles.
The same sources told al-Sabah that al-Douri, who held meany Ba'ath party positions during the former regime, was falsely pronounced dead on its demise. Forged death certificates had been circulated.
He was arrested in an area between Oja and al-Dour, in Salahidine province.
The same sources said three missiles were found with nuclear heads attached in a tunnel six metres underground.
A cement layer six metres thick had been built over the tunnel to hide it from scientific ray detection that could detect the radiation emitted by the nuclear heads.
The tunnel leading to the three missiles is connected to a small hole that opens out on the main road between Ouja and Dour.
The sources said al-Douri was arrested after sending an email, specifying the location and a meeting place in Tikrit.
Authorities analysed the message. Iraqi forces then moved into the area, laying a trap that snared al-Douri and his son.
Al-Douri then revealed the location of the missiles. Various light weapons and money was also seized during the operation.
ENDS
171 posted on 07/21/2004 12:00:20 AM PDT by propertius
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Damn night shift.
Liberal Nit:
Although that is true, you would need at least a pair of two nukes on the bottom, and then very carefully place a fifth nuke on one pair, and a sixth nuke on the other pair, to call it "stock piles of nukes".
Hey, I don't think a bomb or a missile need to be buried under six meters of concrete! The Poles recently found several missiles barely covered by sand:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1168029/posts
pictures from Diogenes #32
Loved the forklift, loved the bomb, loved the comment.
A nuclear bomb is a slightly different animal than a chemical bomb.
Nuclear bump
Just posting this for the heck of it. Can't vouch for the source but this makes me wonder if Joe Wilson and Rock Creek Corp and al Amoudi had any dealings with mining firms in Africa? :
It is reliably learnt from well-placed observers that it also came out during the recent interrogation of the associates of Khan in Pakistan's nuclear establishment that after Osama bin Laden shifted from Khartoum to Afghanistan in 1996, Dr.Khan was also looking after bin Laden's extensive investments in the mining industry in many African countries and that the money invested in the Timbuktu hotel had come from these investments of bin Laden. The Pakistani authorities have reportedly suppressed this information and not shared it with the US.--- "A. Q. KHAN & OSAMA BIN LADEN," B. Raman, Kashmir Herald on the Web, Volume 3, No. 10 - March-April 2004
The fact that they are covered is only something that's done to hide them. Nothing more.
OK. So where would you keep one or two or three if you had it? An underground bunker under six meters of concrete sounds like a pretty good place to me. The biological warheads were left lying around in dumps, littering the landscape by comparison, and the missiles in the photographs provided by Diogenes #32 were buried in sand.
There must be something rather special about what was found, if the story is true, for the weapons (missiles or bombs,) to be so carefully concealed.
I wish they would put it in the English version!!
http://www.alsabaah.com/20040720/english.htm
NEW INCREASE IN PENSIONERS' SALARIES
Baghdad, As-Sabah, July 20, Page 1
The ministry of finance has announced new increase on pensioners' salaries ranges between % 10 -% 90 will be implemented starting from July, August and September.The spending of the pension salaries for the civil employees will be on 2nd August. The military retired salaries are to be spent on 2nd September.The statement's ministry informed by the humanitarian society indicated that the pension directorate classified the retired into two categories which are military and civilian.The ministry of finance said that this 2nd increase on the pensioners' salaries included all retired. Times and times again, the pensioners expressed their rejection and non- satisfaction over the salaries they received.Notably, the retired staged demonstration demanding to improve their situation in accordance with the Iraqi financial plans and revenues, carried placards calling to question the negligent.
13 DEAD , VICTIMS OF TERRORISM IN I'LAAM DISTRICT
Baghdad, As-Sabah, July 20, Page 1
About 13 civilians were martyred among whom five of the Iraqi policemen, injuring more than 33 owing to the explosion of trapped car in I'laam district south-western Baghdad .Ali Muhammed from Dora police station said that specifically at 8:20 a.m , a fuel vehicle hit the back fence for the police station caused human and material damages in the near shops and the population's houses .Witnesses said that the ambulances and fire-engines hurried soon to the scene owing to the outbreak of fire in one of the sub-electricity feeders.
WATER RESOURCES MINISTER ATTENDS CONFERENCE
Baghdad, As-Sabah, July 20, Page 2
Dr. Abdul Lateef Jamal Rasheed the minister of water resources said that the ministry's plan for 2005 included priority for implementing Basra water project, affirming that great deal attention concentrated on making available large quantities of drinking water in the southern region.Replying to a question of As-Sabah regards the shortage in the drinking water in the southern region, the minister said that the ministry's task is confined to make available waters via rivers' canals and tributaries so as other departments undertook filtering process.The minister considered what has achieved during this year since the collapse of the regime as a qualitative leap in field of rehabilitation water projects.During the conference which attended by Arab and foreign reporters, the minister tackled the outcomes of his political tour to the United States , referring to his acquaintance with the latest developments in technology field, water projects , dams , means of stockpiling and facing the flood .
ENGINEERS STAGE DEMONSTRATION IN FRONT OF CABINET MINISTERS
Baghdad, As-Sabah, July 20, Page 2
The association of Iraqi engineers has staged demonstration in front of the cabinet ministers, denouncing the decision issued by the ministry of housing .The decision was relied the temporary committee of the engineers syndicate.Eng. Ghanim al- Obaidi commented on the decision issued by Omar al- Damloji the minister of housing and construction , describing such decision as sectarian reflects irresponsibility as it legitimizes temporary committee previously frozen by the dissolved Governing Council .Al- Obaidi demanded creation of neutral committee under supervision of the ministry of Justice , affirming importance of separating the syndicate work and the ministry work for being non-governmental organization .
OIL MINISTER DENIES USING TRODDEN HAIFA OIL PIPELINE
Baghdad, As-Sabah, July 20, Page 2
Eng. Thamir al- Ghadban the minister of oil has denied news of pumping oil via old pipeline of Haifa, saying that the said line is old enough that would not be able to be used.The pipe was extended in the early beginning of the past century and now is buried underground while %90 of its facilitates are damaged and would not be able to be repaired as it suffers of tens of kilometers length breaks, the minister said.Meanwhile, Ghadban told reporters that Iraq's oil company is selling oil according to world prices and that its revenues are put in Iraqi bank so as to be spent on reconstruction drive , improvement of the services and other people needs.As for sabotage, the minister considered sabotaging oil facilities targets Iraq's national economy and result in halting the power electricity. He denounced claims of foreign administration regards the oil company or that its revenues could be leaked into Israel! Calling the said rumors as fabricated news by opponents of new Iraq.
'49 NEW IRAQI AMBASSADORS APPOINTED'
Baghdad, As-Sabah, July 20, page 3
Hoshiya Zibari, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, announced in a press conference held yesterday that the ministry has appointed 49 new ambassadors at the Iraqi embassies and consulates outside Iraq. "This step, though it took a long time to be achieved, is the first step to assure Iraq's sovereignty and the beginning of Iraq's restoration of its normal situation among the world countries."He assured that this will be followed by many other steps like reopening the closed Iraqi embassies, indicating that they will depend on efficiency in work in appointing the ambassadors. Ziybari added that the list includes 49 ambassadors, 43 of them will work outside Iraq and the rest are to be centered in Baghdad. And the ministry will contact the countries to gain approvals to the ambassador credentials.He assured that Iraq is keen to establish diplomatic missions in all countries, like the Arab countries, Arab League, some religious, European and Asian countries. Speaking about the UN role in Iraq, Zibari assured that political process in Iraq is in need for the UN to guarantee its success, stressing on holding the national congress on the appointed date.Answering questions about Iraq's participation at the neighboring countries conference due to be held in Cairo tomorrow, Zibari said that this meeting is of special importance for it will be attended by Lakhdar Al-Ibrahimi, and general coordinator for Foreign Affairs at the European Federation and it will focus on many issues concerning Iraq, top of them is respecting Iraq's sovereignty and non-interference in its interior affairs, controlling the borders and supporting reconstruction.
Fascinating and hugely portentous if true.
Did you see this?
Then you said,"There must be something rather special about what was found, if the story is true, for the weapons (missiles or bombs,) to be so carefully concealed."
Figure out which side you are on the we can discuss. My original post concerned how somepeople might say nuclear missile" or "warhead" when they really mean just a bomb. A big ole bomb requires much less sophistication than a "warhead" or a "nuclear missile". That was my whole point.
BTW the missiles you reference were anti-aircraft missiles not something nuclear capable. There is absolutely nothing special about a Roland anti-aircraft missile.
For that inane reply from the DUer. If I take two nukes, dig a 12' hole bury them, then take the third one and stick it where the sun don't shine, yes that would be a stock piles. (Nice one C21)
Conrad
Probably a bit uncomfortable as well (;-)
Conrad
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Why would the coalition funded paper publish something this big with nothing to back the story up?
I hope this is confirmed soon.
We all knew Saddam may have had a nuclear warhead, even Clinton suggested as such, but was it a long-range nuclear warhead? If not it isn't even worth reporting ...why confuse the masses who may not be capable of making this (bogus) distinction?
Maybe we should wait until a news agency that someone has heard of picks this up.
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