National Security? What's that?
Posted on 07/20/2004 7:44:02 PM PDT by BILL_C
And McVeigh went to his execution without uttering a word about this, huh?
PAPER TIGER:
The terrorists all assumed whether it was Bin Laden or Iraq that the U.S. would not really respond in a significant way.
IRAQ CLAIM CREDIT?
Iraq would not claim credit. That would invite an armed response but small things like airliners were OK. Sadaham would do this for the persoal satisfaction of killing Americans.
MURRAH BUILDING BOMBING/OKC:
Not to focus on the details of the bombing, I have believed a post made on FREEREPUBLIC years ago which was from a lawyer across the street who said "how come the windows in my office were blown out but no other significant damage occurred?" This seemed to be a reasonable argument that there were indeed explosives planted in the Murrah Building. Also taking into account previous information that said the bomb was too small to do that amount of damage (the crater was too small) plus seismic traces showed multiple explosions plus analysis of two recordings showed multiple explosions. I'm not going to solve that here but of course that's in the back of my mind.
EGYPTIAN PILOT CRASHES AIRPLANE:
The plane as I recall crashed into the Atlantic off Boston, not NY Harbor. It probably was taken into account in the progression to 9-11. There has been much written about the thought that only a few of the terrorists on the 8-11 planes knew that it was a suicide mission.
TWA 800: BOMB OR MISSLE?
I believe that to get to TRUTH, you have to first listen very closely to what the witnesses say. Jack Cashill has convinced me that the "experienced" witnesses saw a missle.
THE IMPORTANT QUESTION:
GIVEN THAT THERE WERE IRAQIs INVOLVED IN THE BOMBING, WHY DID THE US GOVERNMENT LIE?
A possible answer is that it fit with Bill CLinton's election. Buildup for a war wasn't going to happen on his watch, especially right before an election.
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE OF CLINTON'S LYING. By HIM IGNORING IRAQI TERRORISM, HE INDIRECTLY KILLED THOUSANDS.
I contend that many of the headlines this year are consistent with that premise. It all seems to makes sense.
Now to prove this you don't have to get Gorelick to tearfully plead for mercy. You would only need to show the police officers were pressured to ignore real leads. As with every conspiracy, there are people out there who know pieces of the truth.
Based on history, there will be no pursuit of truth by our government.
And McVeigh went to his execution without uttering a word about this, huh?
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McVeigh was a freedom fighter. Read some of the things he wrote in the link below. The Iraqi assistance was not an important issue to him (IMHO) and why would he want to implicate people who helped him?
"But if there is a hell, then I'll be in good company with a lot of fighter pilots who also had to bomb innocents to win the war."
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/timothy.htm
He could have been protecting his family. Once dead, there would be no chance of his ever giving up what he knew and endanger them. The government's rush to execute him was similar to the bulldozing of the buildings at Waco, getting rid of evidence, IMHO.
And this from a Dem named John Loftus. (Don't shoot me; I'm the messenger)
I heard one of the Republican appointed 9-11 commissioners, either the older Navy man or Keane on a TV interview show saying that Gorelick was in charge of deciding which documents the commission would use for their investigation. He was saying this in praise of her abilities, defending her inclusion on the commission. No one brought up the possibilitiy that she screened out documents that would be injurious to the Clinton Administration. I was astonished and horrified.
Seems Clintoon had a clandestine policy to USE Al-Quada to balance the strength between the Serbs and the Albanians. IOW; Clintoon worked WITH Al-Quada in 1997-1999 timeframe.
TV interview show saying that Gorelick was in charge of deciding which documents the commission would use
Would people like Rumsfeld and Cheney just let this go? An Iraqi tie to OKC? Let it go? And not get the documents themselves? But just let them sit in there until Berger shows up and stuffs them in his socks? Oh darn we should have made copies! This hysteria does not add up.
October 1999 EgyptAir 990 out of Kennedy airport was plunged into the ocean by an Islamic TERRORIST who had taken over the cockpit, but the Clinton administration insisted terrorism was not the cause of the plane's disappearance even before the plane's fate was discovered.
This would be a great movie or documentary. How can we get it done? If the fat pig moore can do it, surely there is a patriot out there that can do it too.
Let's turn this into a documentary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Berger will never face charges. Laws are for Republicans, not Liberals.
Nor do Republicans have the GUTS to prosecute a former member of the Clintion regime. Remember, Hillary still has her copies of the FBI files...
You are correct. What you have here is the Democrats releasing this so that it is "old news" by the time of the election.
Your assumption is that they know.
My basic assumption is when someone says "CONSPIRACY" virtually everyone turns off their brain and moves on. The government has said, the news media agrees and the thinking is over except for some nuts on the internet.
But, in this case,
1. Jayna Davis has proved beyond any doubt that Iraqis were involved with the Oklahoma City Bombing in 1995.
2, OUR government investigation openly lied.
3. I contend that to pull off a lie like this, only the President has that kind of power.
I'm now understanding more and more why Gore did all he did to steal the election in 2000. Clinton needed much more coverup to WhiteWater-Wash his legacy, too much American blood on his hands. Gore did not know Bush would be so tuff in the aftermath. D@mn, we're gettin' deeper into Dim Doo Doo. Its amazing how low these people will go.
peace...D
EARLY 1996
Sudan, which has harbored bin Laden since his 1991 expulsion from Saudi Arabia, offers to turn al Qaeda's founder over to the Saudis for trial. Saudi Arabia doesn't want him, and President Clinton does not push the issue of expulsion. In May, Sudan throws bin Laden out; he and his family go to Afghanistan.
MAY 26, 1998
Osama bin Laden holds a news conference in Afghanistan declaring war on the United States. Information obtained by senior U.S. policy makers and the intelligence community indicates that bin Laden intends to strike. The U.S. Joint Inquiry Staff, however, reported in September 2002 that intelligence-gathering agencies did not know where, when or how a terrorist attack might have occurred and the information was not corroborated.
JUNE 1998
Several sources reveal to the U.S. intelligence community that bin Laden is considering attacks in the United States -- targeting cities such as Washington and New York. Senior U.S. officials receive this information a month later.
The U.S. intelligence community consists of the 14 government agencies that conduct the U.S. government's intelligence activities, including the CIA, Treasury Department, Energy Department, State Department, Defense Intelligence Agency, FBI, National Imagery and Mapping Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, and the intelligence agencies the U.S. Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, Marine Corps and Navy.
AUGUST 1998
The FBI and the Federal Aviation Administration receive information that unidentified Arabs plan to fly an "explosive-laden plane" from an unnamed country into the World Trade Center. The FAA finds the plot "highly unlikely given the state of that foreign country's aviation program." Skeptical FAA officials also believe a flight originating outside the United States would be detected before it reached its target. The FBI's New York office files away the information.
FALL 1998
Intelligence officials are notified of a bin Laden plot involving aircraft and the New York and Washington areas.
SEPTEMBER 1998
The intelligence community details the infrastructure of al Qaeda in the United States. Also, intelligence information indicates bin Laden's next plan could be to fly an aircraft loaded with explosives into a U.S. airport and then detonate the plane.
OCTOBER 1998
U.S. intelligence officials learn that al Qaeda is trying to establish an operative cell within the United States
NOVEMBER 1998
The intelligence community is notified that an al Qaeda terrorist cell is trying to recruit a group of five to seven young men from the United States to travel to the Middle East for training.
Intelligence officials also learn that bin Laden and senior associates have agreed to offer a $9 million reward for the assassinations of four top CIA officers.
1999
The FBI creates a unit that focuses on bin Laden.
On September 10, 2001, about 17-19 people are working in that division.
SPRING 1999
The intelligence community is notified that bin Laden is planning an attack on a U.S. government facility in Washington.
AUGUST 1999
Officials are informed that bin Laden's organization planned to target the U.S. secretary of state, secretary of defense and the director of central intelligence. CIA analysts interpret "target" to mean "assassinate."
SEPTEMBER 1999
A report titled "Sociology and Psychology of Terrorism" commissioned by the National Intelligence Council raises the specter of a September 11-style attack by al Qaeda., including crash landing an airplace packed with explosives into the Pentagon, CIA headquarters or White House. "Whatever form an attack may take, bin Laden will most likely retaliate in a spectacular way for the cruise missile attack against his Afghan camp in August 1998."
A source tells the U.S. intelligence that bin Laden's group and others are planning attacks in the United States, possibly against landmarks in California and New York. The reliablity of the source was unknown.
LATE 1999
Intelligence information raises the possibility of attacks on targets in Washington and New York during the New Year's millennium celebrations.
DECEMBER 14, 1999
Ahmed Ressam is arrested in Port Angeles, Washington, as he tries to enter the United States from Canada. A U.S. Customs Service officer searched his rented car and found 130 pounds of explosive chemicals and four homemade timing devices. Ressam was convicted of conspiracy to detonate a suitcase bomb at Los Angeles International Airport on New Year's Eve of 1999, the last day before the new millennium. He has not been senteneced.
JANUARY 2000
Khalid Almidhar, left, and Nawaf Alhamzi -- two of the hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 77, which hit the Pentagon -- are seen on a surveillance tape at a meeting in January 2000 at a hotel in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Also at the meeting is Tawfiq al-Atash, who U.S. officials suspect played a hand in the Cole's bombing. The CIA says it warned the FBI about Almidhar but the CIA also did not place him on a watch list until August 2001.
FEBRUARY 2000
Reports indicate that bin Laden may be planning to assassinate U.S. intelligence officials, including then-FBI director Louis Freeh.
MARCH 2000
An unnamed nation tells the CIA that Alhazmi had flown from the January meeting in Malaysia to Los Angeles.
The U.S. intelligence also obtains information on the places that bin Laden's network might attack, including the Statue of Liberty, skyscrapers, ports, airports and nuclear power plants.
DECEMBER 2000
U.S. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice says it was this month when the U.S. intelligence community started reporting increases in traffic concerning terrorist activities
JANUARY 30, 2001
September 11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah is questioned at the Dubai airport at the CIA's request, United Arab Emirates government sources and other Middle Eastern and European intelligence sources told CNN. Sources said he was released because U.S. officials were satisfied but a CIA spokesman denied the agency had anything to do with the questioning, saying it was "flatly untrue." The CIA said it learned of the questioning from CIA officers in the UAE after September 11. The FBI believes Jarrah, who held a Lebanese passport, was the hijacker-pilot of United Airlines Flight 93.
FEBRUARY 2001
Testifying before Congress, CIA Director George Tenet says "Osama bin Laden and his global network of lieutenants and associates remain the most immediate and serious threat" to U.S. security.
"As we have increased security around government and military facilities, terrorists are seeking out 'softer' targets that provide opportunities for mass casualties," Tenet said
MARCH 2001
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) informs specific U.S. airlines of threats from suspected terrorists in Middle Eastern nations served by those carriers.
APRIL 2001
A source with terrorist connections speculates that bin Laden might be interested in using commercial pilots as terrorists. The source warns that embassy bombings should not be the focus of intelligence measures because the operatives want "spectacular and traumatic" attacks, like the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993.
The source did not mention when an attack may occur. The information is not disseminated within the intelligence community because the source was speculating and did not offer hard information
APRIL 18, 2001
The FAA sends another warning to U.S. airlines that Middle Eastern terrorists could try to hijack or blow up a U.S. plane and that carriers should "demonstrate a high degree of alertness." The warning stemmed from the April 6, 2001, conviction of Ahmed Ressam over a failed plot to blow up Los Angeles International Airport during the millennium celebrations
APRIL-MAY 2001
Rice said U.S. intelligence sources reported specific threats regarding al Qaeda attacks against U.S. targets or interests that might be in the works.
MAY 29, 2001
Four men are convicted in the bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Witnesses testified at the trial that Osama bin Laden was sending al Qaeda agents to the United States for flight-school training and acquiring planes.
JUNE 22, 2001
The FAA issues another warning to U.S. airlines. It mentioned "unconfirmed reports that American interests may be the target of terrorist threats from extremist groups." The warning also said that hijackings might be used to get the release of Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, who was convicted in a plot to blow up New York landmarks in 1993
JUNE 26, 2001
The State Department issues a worldwide caution warning American citizens of possible attacks.
Rice said at this time, there was a "threat spike," focusing on possible attacks on U.S. citizens or targets overseas.
JULY 1, 2001
Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Richard Shelby, both members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, appear on CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer", and warn of potential attacks by Osama bin Laden. "One of the things that has begun to concern me very much as to whether we really have our house in order, intelligence staff have told me that there is a major probability of a terrorist incident within the next three months," Feinstein said.
JULY 2, 2001
The FBI issues a warning of possible al Qaeda attacks to law enforcement agencies. The messages stated that "there are threats to be worried about overseas. While we cannot foresee attacks domestically, we cannot rule them out." The FAA, meanwhile, issues another message regarding convicted millennium bomb plotter Ahmed Ressam. Rice said Ressam told authorities "there was an intention of using explosives in an airport terminal."
JULY 5, 2001
In a morning meeting, President Bush asks Rice to find out what agencies are doing with intelligence regarding al Qaeda threats. Rice said at this point, "the threat reporting had become sufficiently robust, though, not, again, very specific, but sufficiently robust. There was a lot of chatter in the system."
JULY 6, 2001
Counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke leads a meeting of the Counterterrorism Security Group, part of the National Security Council, to discuss intelligence regarding terrorism threats and potential attacks on U.S. installations overseas. The meeting leads to a suspension of nonessential travel by counterterror staff
JULY 10, 2001
FBI Agent Ken Williams sends a memo to the counterterrorism division at the FBI's Washington headquarters. It outlines a theory that Middle Eastern students at an Arizona flight school could be al Qaeda agents training for hijackings. FBI analysts review the memo but do nothing. The White House, FBI Director Robert Mueller and Attorney General John Ashcroft are informed about the memo only after the September 11 attacks.
MID-JULY 2001
U.S. intelligence reports another spike in threats related to the July 20-22 G-8 summit in Genoa, Italy. The reports include specific threats against Bush, who is to attend the summit. The head of Russia's Federal Bodyguard Service is quoted as saying that Osama bin Laden had threatened to assassinate President Bush at the summit. "In fact, the CIA went on ... a full-court press to try and deal with these potential attacks and, indeed, managed, through these intelligence activities and liaison activities,to disrupt attacks in Paris, Turkey, and Rome."
JULY 18, 2001
The FBI issues another warning to domestic law enforcement agencies about threats stemming from the convictions in the millennium bomb plot trial. The FAA also issues a warning, telling the airlines to "use the highest level of caution."
JULY 28, 2001
Authorities in the United Arab Emirates arrest Djamel Beghal, a French-Algerian man, for trying to travel to Europe on a fake French passport. Intelligence sources close to investigators in the UAE say that, under days of interrogation, Beghal told of planned attacks in France, including the U.S. Embassy in Paris, as well as details of terrorist cells operating in Paris and Rotterdam, Netherlands. Beghal has since been extradited to France and investigators there say he has retracted his confession.
JULY 31, 2001
The FAA issues another warning to U.S. airlines, citing no specific targets but saying "terror groups are known to be planning and training for hijackings, and we ask you therefore to use caution."
AUGUST 1, 2001
The FBI issues another warning that mentions the upcoming third anniversary of the bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa. It reiterates the message that had been in the July 2 warning
AUGUST 6, 2001
At his request, President Bush receives a report on al Qaeda during his daily intelligence briefing, known as the Presidential Daily Brief. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said this report was an "analytic brief" and not a warning that only mentioned hijackings in the traditional sense. "Hijacking before 9/11 and hijacking after 9/11 mean two very different things," she said on May 16, 2002.
AUGUST 15, 2001
A Minneapolis flight school reports Zacarias Moussaoui to the FBI because he was interested in learning how to fly jumbo jets but did not have a pilot's license. The following day, Moussaoui was taken into custody and formally arrested the next day on immigration charges. Agents wanted to get a special warrant to search his laptop computer but were denied permission. Later in August, French authorities tell U.S. officials that the French-born Moussaoui is a suspected Islamic extremist.
AUGUST 16, 2001
The FAA issues a warning to airlines concerning disguised weapons. According to Rice, they were concerned about some reports that the terrorists had made breakthroughs in cell phones, key chains and pens as weapons.
AUGUST 17, 2001
Zacarias Moussaoui is arrested by the FBI in Minnesota and is charged with an immigration violation. Agents fear his flight training may have violent intentions. The agency's Minnesota bureau tries to get permission to search his laptop computer, but is turned down.
AUGUST 23, 2001
In late August, the CIA asks the Immigration and Naturalization Service to put Khalid Almidhar on a watch list due to his ties to the October 2000 attack on the USS Cole in Yemen.
On August 23, the INS informs the CIA that Almidhar was admitted into the United States as a nonimmigrant visitor on July 4. Almidhar was one of the four hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 77 that slammed into the Pentagon.
EARLY SEPTEMBER 2001
An FBI agent in Minneapolis, Minnesota, writes a memo suggesting Zacarias Moussaoui is training to learn to fly planes into buildings. The agent "mentioned the possibility of Moussaoui being that type of person that could fly something into the World Trade Center," FBI Director Robert Mueller later tells Congress. The FBI notifies the CIA about Moussaoui, but neither agency tells the White House Counterterrorism Security Group. The Federal Aviation Administration, also told about Moussaoui, decides not to warn airlines about a possible threat, an FAA official says.
SEPTEMBER 10, 2001
A CIA plan to strike at al Qaeda in Afghanistan, including support for the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance, is given to the White House. Sen. Dianne Feinstein asks for a meeting with Vice President Dick Cheney. The California Democrat is told that Cheney's staff would need six months to prepare for a meeting.
The National Security Agency intercepts two communications from Afghanistan to Saudi Arabia. "Tomorrow is zero hour," says one. "The match begins tomorrow," says the other. The messages are not translated until September 12.
SEPTEMBER 11, 2001
Nineteen men of Middle Eastern descent linked to al Qaeda hijack four commercial airliners and crash them into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a rural Pennsylvania field. More than 3,000 civilians die in the terrorist attacks.
One need only consider an alternate scenario to see
where we should go with this.
Imagine Condoleeza Rice walking off with these documents.
The demorats would be getting out the fishing poles!
Cries of "Independent Prosecutor!" would fill the airwaves.
I am personally of the opinion that Sandy B. certainly was
there to retrieve SOMETHING, and not necessarily the documents named. What would be the point of that? There was
something there that they HAD to have. Something that he
was willing to go to prison over to protect BC and his admin. or WIFE!
National Security? What's that?
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Wowser, A.P.!
What a great timeline on events leading up to 9/11. We do realize that much of that timeline was actually classified top secret in the months and days leading up to 9/11. (Wonder if some of that is what Berger was after?)
If the right people in the right places would have just gotten past the political correctness of not going after Islamic terrorists, 9/11 likely would not have happened.
The rest is history.
So what was up with the Feinstein/Cheney meeting and why would it take six months for her to get in to see Cheney?
Check this out . .
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Surveillance Tape Shows 9/11 Hijackers Passing Through Airport Security
Video shows how easy it was for five Sept. 11 hijackers to get through the system. Two of the 9/11 hijackers, wearing light-colored shirts, pass through the security screening area at Dulles airport.
— An airport surveillance tape obtained by ABC News shows the five hijackers of American Airlines Flight 77 easily passing through security at Dulles International Airport outside Washington, D.C., in the hour before the flight took off on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001.
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