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AP: Clinton Adviser Probed in Terror Memos [Sandy Berger is the focus of a criminal investigation]
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Posted on 07/19/2004 5:07:42 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: MinuteGal
Don't you just love how this news is coming out just days before the 'Rat convention

Yes it is.

However, we know that the events in question took place 9 months ago; So why are we learning of it this evening?

From what I gather, Ashcroft, in his testimony to the 9/11 committee this spring, alluded to the original un-washed-by-Beger report that Damned Clinton. So insiders on both side of the aisle knew this would break before the election, just when?

Perhaps the 'Rats {they very well might be the source of this leak} want this issue to be hot on the skewer now so they can use the upcoming convention to publicly water the issue down with 98 degree .....

1,501 posted on 07/19/2004 11:26:32 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry plans to graff post-Vietnam policy on Iraq: Cut funding and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: Deb

Why aren't we hearing this all over the news?


1,502 posted on 07/19/2004 11:28:01 PM PDT by bellas_sister (" Senator, do you know there's a girl found dead in your car?")
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
Just DAMN! But I guess it's only to be expected,from the Slimes.
1,503 posted on 07/19/2004 11:29:49 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Ain't life grand,sometimes? :-)


1,504 posted on 07/19/2004 11:31:44 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: bellas_sister
Why aren't we hearing this all over the news?

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For internet news it's on Fire!

317 + articles in the last 6 hours:

Give TV 12 hours to catch up.

1,505 posted on 07/19/2004 11:38:14 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry plans to graff post-Vietnam policy on Iraq: Cut funding and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: Mudboy Slim; ntrulock

Mudboy, I may have the names confused, may be Richardson I'm thinking of, but I'm sure Berger had to testify in the Starr Investigation, but that's nothing!
Remember Chinagate?? I bet Notra Trulock would have some choice comments about Mr. Sandy Berger.

Here's some interesting notes, mostly from Alamo Girl's downside legacy:

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http://www.alamo-girl.com/0211.htm


The Hill 3/17/99 Dick Morris "…Sandy Berger is about as qualified to be White House national security advisor as I am. He’s a political operative who had virtually no foreign policy experience before he became Tony Lake’s deputy. He was put into the National Security Council (NSC) under Lake so that Tony, who didn’t have a clue about politics, wouldn’t get cut apart in the congressional swamp. His job was to know politics. Tony’s was to know foreign policy…. When Lake and Christopher left, Berger got the top NSC job, the first professional politician ever to be named national security advisor. It was a major mistake….Clinton’s choice of Berger was, however, just right for his concept of foreign policy, that it is subordinate to domestic political and economic considerations. Where the president can intervene abroad and do well at home with domestic constituencies — as in Israel, Ireland and Haiti — foreign policy is important. But where global strategy is concerned, the prime motive is economic — to create jobs in America — and not diplomatic, military or strategic. He runs foreign policy like a governor promoting his state…



Stratfor.com 3/29/99 Freeper Newskeeper "…0100 GMT 990329 - The New Yorker Magazine has published an article by Sy Hersh, a Pulitzer Prize winning writer, which claims that Saddam Hussein paid Russian Prime Minister Yvgeny Primakov $800,000 to obtain strategic material from Russia. Primakov is known to have extremely close ties to the Middle East since his days in the KGB and he knows Saddam well. What is interesting about the report is not whether or not it is true, since we have no doubt that Primakov is working closely with the Iraqis. What is interesting is that the administration has now decided to leak this information in an attempt to damage Primakov’s reputation. From the article it appears that the source of the story was Sandy Berger, or that he at least authorized the leak. If so, this will deepen tensions between the U.S. and Primakov. If he doesn’t fall, and corruption by itself does not destroy careers in today’s Russia, Clinton and Berger have now made a mortal enemy of Primakov. On a night where Russian negotiators are trying to broker a peace in Belgrade, this complicates matters substantially….."

 


Washington Times 3/22/99 Edward Timperlake and William Triplett authors of Year of the Rat "
…We believe that, for the national interest, President Clinton's National Security Adviser Samuel Sandy Berger should resign immediately…. Right out of the starting gate, Mr. Berger was an unfortunate choice for a national security position with the government because of his prior role as the chief Washington lobbyist for the Chinese government trade office. Having once had a personal financial stake in the promotion of pro-Beijing policies raises an immediate question of his present judgment and decision-making. If only for appearances, let alone personal ethics, he should have recused himself from anything connected to Beijing and its military ambitions…. We now know, for example, it was Mr. Berger who led the charge to repeal export controls on military useful satellites to China. According to White House Documents released to Congress in 1995, as soon as Secretary of State Warren Christopher made his decision to keep controls, Mr. Berger began campaigning from the White House to reverse the decision…. We also now know it was Mr. Berger who was deeply involved in saving Bernard Schwartz's Loral Space systems from the bloodhounds at Justice. Even though Mr. Berger's own staff was informed by the State Department that Loral's offenses were serious and knowing and that Loral was likely to be indicted for secret help it gave China's missile program, he recommended going ahead with a presidential waiver. As a result, the leading donor to President Clinton's 1996 re-election campaign is very likely to escape prosecution. And we now know Mr. Berger was directly involved in the administration's decision to ignore a successful Chinese penetration of our nuclear weapons labs….


On Mr. Berger's watch, Chinese intelligence carried out a massive and successful penetration of the White House itself. A number of persons identified by the CIA as associates of Chinese intelligence poured millions of dollars in illegal campaign funds into the 1996 Clinton-Gore re-election effort. The Riady family of Indonesia, criminal syndicate figure Ng Lapsing, convicted entrepreneur Johnny Chung, fugitive businessman Ted Sieong and indicted Democratic fund-raiser Maria Hsia all had such connections, all were major donors and collectively, they had hundreds of contacts with the White House, President Clinton or Vice President Al Gore. On Mr. Berger's watch, American anti-proliferation laws have not been applied to Chinese military companies when illegal campaign contributions to Clinton-Gore were part of the mix. High-ranking Chinese military spy and arms dealer Liu Chaoying laundered hundreds of thousands of dollars into the 1996 campaign, all the while secretly selling cruise missiles to Iran…. On Mr. Berger's watch, the Clinton administration inaugurated a program of rehabilitation for Chinese generals who have the blood of Chinese young people on their hands. As near as we can determine, at least six People's Liberation Army general officers with personal command and control responsibility for the 1989 Tiananmem Square massacre have received the royal treatment in Washington. Nearly all this occurred in secret.

On Mr. Berger's watch, Chinese military elements have occupied strategic islands hundreds of miles off the China coast. These military outposts sit astride shipping lanes in which all of Japan's energy needs are transported…. Finally, in a preview of the infamous definition of what is is, Mr. Berger told the Congress in 1997 there is no credible evidence COSCO (the China Ocean Shipping Co.) is engaged in a host of illegal activities, including arms smuggling. This misleading and dishonest statement completely ignores COSCO's pivotal role as the delivery boys for China's arms merchants. COSCO is on the record having delivered missiles to trouble spots and 2,000 fully automatic machine guns destined for drug gangs in the United States….."



Freeper Sakida reports 1/31/97 Jewish Telegraphic Agency "…The Washington Post reported that Berger was advised by White House lawyers in 1994 to sell a longtime family stock in the Amoco oil company. After initially questioning the advice, Berger agreed to sell the stock, but forgot to do so until reminded by White House lawyers to do so more than one year later, the Post said. Still, then-White House counsel Abner Mikva said he had no choice but to refer the case to the Justice Department's public integrity division. But White House counsel Jack Quinn said that Clinton was aware of the Justice Department probe of Berger, and believed Berger had committed a harmless oversight that should not interfere with his promotion, the Post said…."
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1,506 posted on 07/19/2004 11:47:38 PM PDT by AuntB ("You are entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own set of facts.’ R.Reagan)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
" what is fun is knowing about this stuff before it's reported in the MSM, and seeing how long it takes to "hit".

it just bubbles up to the surface after all that activity (drudge, talk radio)....and then BAM!

wtf ever happened to kerry's intern in africa?

And What happened to the guy the feds sprung from prison in Brazil .....had the goods on a LA fundraiser for hillary and the missing $2M.....?

1,507 posted on 07/19/2004 11:49:21 PM PDT by spokeshave (strategery + schadenfreude = stratenschadenfreudery)
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To: windchime

" Maybe there's a connection with Los Alamos."


Check this out, there' s plenty about Berger and Los Alamos:

http://www.alamo-girl.com/0211.htm


The Hill 3/17/99 Dick Morris "…Sandy Berger is about as qualified to be White House national security advisor as I am. He’s a political operative who had virtually no foreign policy experience before he became Tony Lake’s deputy. He was put into the National Security Council (NSC) under Lake so that Tony, who didn’t have a clue about politics, wouldn’t get cut apart in the congressional swamp. His job was to know politics. Tony’s was to know foreign policy…. When Lake and Christopher left, Berger got the top NSC job, the first professional politician ever to be named national security advisor. It was a major mistake….Clinton’s choice of Berger was, however, just right for his concept of foreign policy, that it is subordinate to domestic political and economic considerations. Where the president can intervene abroad and do well at home with domestic constituencies — as in Israel, Ireland and Haiti — foreign policy is important. But where global strategy is concerned, the prime motive is economic — to create jobs in America — and not diplomatic, military or strategic. He runs foreign policy like a governor promoting his state…"



1,508 posted on 07/19/2004 11:52:23 PM PDT by AuntB ("You are entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own set of facts.’ R.Reagan)
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To: Fledermaus

Oh ye of little faith! And I'm soooooooooooooo far behind now,I'm going to just give up anhd go to bed.


1,509 posted on 07/19/2004 11:55:16 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: AuntB

bttt


1,510 posted on 07/19/2004 11:59:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Is this cool, or what? LOL


1,511 posted on 07/20/2004 12:02:30 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Stop thinking, and end your problems. — Lao Tzu)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
"October 2, 2003 was when Archives said pages were missing. House was searched in January after Berger couldn't find papes and he had retained counsel. I guess just enough time to rid the house and office of any clues! LOL. "

NO it was a sting....they were probably monitoring him 24/7....taps on his phone/fax/internet use etc...

1,512 posted on 07/20/2004 12:08:27 AM PDT by spokeshave (strategery + schadenfreude = stratenschadenfreudery)
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To: pieces of time
"But burger didn't call Linsdey, Archive officials did!"

BINGO.......now the FEDs know who was covering for Berger in the secure room at the Archives....

1,513 posted on 07/20/2004 12:23:00 AM PDT by spokeshave (strategery + schadenfreude = stratenschadenfreudery)
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To: spokeshave

So what did Berger do with the missing documents?

Has anyone looked behind the copier at Los Alamos yet?


1,514 posted on 07/20/2004 12:25:42 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Sacajaweau
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/03/27/kerry.documents/

Sorry if this has already been answered, I have fallen behind by a thousand posts in my reading :)

"Gerald Nicosia, who spent more than a decade collecting the information, said three of 14 boxes of documents plus a number of loose folders containing hundreds of pages were stolen from his home Thursday afternoon."

1,515 posted on 07/20/2004 12:27:10 AM PDT by Graymatter (Kerry medical records are none of our business---and his veep pick is, who???)
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To: Graymatter

Well, isn't that special? I don't remember hearing about that one.


1,516 posted on 07/20/2004 12:35:53 AM PDT by AuntB ("You are entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own set of facts.’ R.Reagan)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Extremely. : )


1,517 posted on 07/20/2004 12:46:06 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; nopardons

Okay, I see nopardons state that they had -video- of him stuffing the papers in his pants.

Then I see Daughter ask "Where?!", and then say "Oh, I see it there in the article."

I read the article, and it says that Berger -admitted- to stuffing his pants with 'em, but I still see nothing in the article that says they caught him actually doing it on video.

Am I still missing something? I went through the whole article twice looking for it, but maybe I'm just being blind.

An actual video showing him doing that would be so absolutely damning on every level that I could actually see serious jail time as a result. The Kool Aid drinkers would find a way to make excuses for him -even with the admission-, but with video too? It would be so over the top trying to protect him under those circumstances (and they just might try anyway, I wouldn't put -any- defense of the indefensible past them) that I can't imagine an independent in the country that wouldn't be nauseated by that much partisanship.

Qwinn


1,518 posted on 07/20/2004 12:56:35 AM PDT by Qwinn
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To: Qwinn

No, you're right...it didn't say that. But when I saw that he admitted having done it, that was enough for me to start celebrating. (I don't know why would he have admitted it if they couldn't prove it.)


1,519 posted on 07/20/2004 12:59:04 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Nita Nupress
Has anyone looked behind the copier at Los Alamos yet?

I think it's closed.......LOL.

1,520 posted on 07/20/2004 1:01:07 AM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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