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When One Is Enough
www.nytimes.com ^ | Published: July 18, 2004

Posted on 07/19/2004 10:55:19 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

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To: InvisibleChurch
That's easy for you to say, but I'd have to give up my life. Not only would I have to be on bed rest at 20 weeks, I wouldn't be able to fly after 15. I was already at eight weeks.

This woman's story elicits zero sympathy from me. It does however, remind me of a slightly similiar situation.

Not long after an 18 y/o co-worker of mine discovered she was pregnant two years ago, I heard that she had was going to abort her baby. I talked with her and pleaded with her to let my husband and I adopt her baby instead of aborting it.

In any event, at nine weeks, her mother took her to the doctor for a check-up and an ultrasound in order to discuss her 'options' and plan her next step from there.

The next evening that I was at work, she grabbed my arm and told me that she had been waiting for me to come in and that had something to show me. Smiling, she handed me her ultrasound picture. It took me a second before I realized that I was looking at what would be the first picture of her identical twin sons, Ethan and Erich. I got to watch her balloon up with babies and listen as her excitement grew right along with her tummy.

I could never explain why, but next to my own children being born, I had never experienced a joy like I did when Christine's babies arrived.

She married the father soon after, their boys turned a year old on June 5, and at 19, she is a wonderful mother.
21 posted on 07/19/2004 11:55:05 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (May God Continue to Bless The United States of America!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

She'd have to give up... sheesh... is she in for a major "life" wake-up call. Get rid of one or two... spit.


22 posted on 07/19/2004 11:59:21 AM PDT by exhaustedmomma (REtired: raising grandkids (pray for us))
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To: InvisibleChurch
My immediate response was, I cannot have triplets. I was not married;

An excellent article for why one should not have sex until one is ready to become a parent.

When one becomes a parent, one does not give up his/her life. Life changes. It may even become better as you learn the true joy of giving your life for another.

Of course, someone who won't commit to a marriage but prefers to shack up is probably too selfish to understand that.

Shalom.

23 posted on 07/19/2004 12:00:52 PM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Williams

It's just really wild to me, that on one board I post/visit, we talk football (Chargers, specifically), and one guy is asking, as a 41 year old man who has not had any children, about children, the decision to have (or the decision to not have any), the highs, and lows, the good times and the bad, basically.

I then came over here, and read this. It's just such a stark polar opposite, I really can't get away from. I'm tempted to sign up at the NYTimes to be able to link this story, because frankly, this needs to be in the MSM, (sarcasm) that the national, and local news needs to tell this womans' (horror) story. (/sarcasm)


24 posted on 07/19/2004 12:16:33 PM PDT by Ro_Thunder (Sarcasm? That's humor lost on anyone but yourself.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

How sad for the children.


25 posted on 07/19/2004 12:32:50 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: YankeeGirl
The article doesn't say when the son was born or how old he is. The article does imply that the boyfriend, Peter, was uncomfortable with her decision to abort two of the three pregnancies.

I wonder how long it will be before Peter breaks their relationship and sues for custody, and/or suffers from symptoms of post-abortion stress. (Yes, men suffer also.)

I also wonder how long it will be before Amy exhibits PAS symptoms herself.

26 posted on 07/19/2004 12:37:47 PM PDT by Prov3456
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To: Williams

Good Lord! That's about the most shocking thing I've read on FR! Did he dump her????


27 posted on 07/19/2004 12:43:26 PM PDT by kaylar
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
That's easy for you to say, but I'd have to give up my life. Not only would I have to be on bed rest at 20 weeks, I wouldn't be able to fly after 15. I was already at eight weeks.

It has the same effect on me. Zero sympathy.

Two personal acquaintances come to mind:

A couple in our neighborhood had tried for years to have a second child. Without fertility drugs, the mother conceived triplets. Almost from the start, around 3 months, she started having complications. Despite 5 months of bed rest and the best specialists, only one baby survive. Their younger daughter is a happy 9 yr old, and they love their girls but grieve still over the lost 2.

Several years ago at a previous workplace, my new coworker shared with me her good news, she was pregnant and thrilled about it but afraid to tell her boss. She went on to say that her sister in law, an acquaintance of mine, was pregnant but in turmoil. See, she and her husband had wanted only 2 kids, a boy and a girl, and although they were disappointed that their first was a girl (they really wanted a boy), they had just found out the devastating news that they were having twins. The 'mother' wanted to eliminate the girl twin, only to find the babies were identical twin girls, not a boy and girl, and it would be impossible to eliminate just one, but she could eliminate both, something her husband was opposed to, although he had been coming around to the idea of eliminating just one twin. In the end after much arguing and counselling, they even separated briefly, they had healthy full-term twin girls, now about 9 or 10. I see them every once in a while, and they are always complaining about what burdens the girls are. Oh, yeah, she proudly proclaims how she made her hubby get a vasectomy after the twins so they wouldn't make that mistake again. Nauseating.

28 posted on 07/19/2004 12:57:33 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: InvisibleChurch
Let's add this message up.

1) She was living with a boyfreind (mistake #1)
2) She considered becoming preganant out of wedlock (mistake #2)
3) She had problems and looked for the easy way out - Abort some babies (Big mistake #3).
4) After the 'procedure' (semantic justification) she had troubles with smells and tastes, ignoring her concious and her heart (Mistake #4)
5) I don't see where she married the boyfreind (Big Mistake #5).
6) She promoted her experience as normative extending her culpability througout society. The blood of many innocents, not just two, now will be on her hands.(Major mistake #6)
7) She has not repented of her actions and not seeked forgiveness from God, her family or society at large (May be an eternal mistake #7).

So they need prayers. Odds are they won't be together in 2 years.
Psychological pressures will mean she will probably be in counseling for years to come or her personality will become fragile and or bitter. She may consider suicide.
The surviving child will probably be told the issue deliberately or after it spills out and will be tramatized
She will think about the twins whenever she looks at her boy.

29 posted on 07/19/2004 12:57:48 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: InvisibleChurch
I sent the following email to Ms. Richards, and prayed for her and her son. May God forgive her and protect her remaining child.


Ms. Richards,

I read your article (on FreeRepublic.com) about how you killed two of your unborn children.

It was heartbreaking to read, and my first reaction was anger.

But then I realized that I should pray for you and your surviving child.

So that is what I am doing instead.

I am praying that one day you will look at your son, see his missing siblings, and let God touch your heart.

I am praying that you will realize how cold your heart is to have done this horrible deed, and that you will ask God to forgive you for what you have done.

I am praying that God will forgive you for what you have done.

I am praying that your son will not self-destruct in his own life after he learns that you killed his two siblings.

I am praying for you and your son's souls.

May God answer my prayers.

George Culp
30 posted on 07/19/2004 2:00:10 PM PDT by Col Freeper
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To: Col Freeper

I see a lot of people accusing this woman of something she is completely guilty of...but not many people saying, "This poor woman is blind and knows not what she has done."

Pray for her...don't judge her. There is not one person here that hasn't sinned against God...no not one. Sin is sin, no matter what it is. We like to classify different "levels" of sin. That is a "man" thing, not a God thing. This woman needs to know that Jesus loves her and that He offers forgiveness, love and hope.

To those of you just waiting for her to be standing in front of God's throne on judgement day, so you can see how God judges her because of this terrible deed she has done, remember this: Jesus does not want even one of us to be lost. It is our DUTY as Christians to extend the love and grace God has given us to those who are blinded by life in this world.

God bless you all with love, joy, mercy, peace and grace.


31 posted on 07/19/2004 7:04:14 PM PDT by CMS1
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To: InvisibleChurch

Three Miracles

We prayed and prayed for so many years,
Said rosaries, novena and shed a few tears,
It was a hearache as time went by;
Sometimes we didn't talk about it, my love and I.

But wait, don't give up God seemsed to say,
The time has arrived - your babies are on their way.
And for being so patient and trusting in Me,
I won't send you one - I will send you "three"!!!

- Author unknown


32 posted on 07/19/2004 7:44:08 PM PDT by gatopfs
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To: InvisibleChurch

When my wife and I found out we were having triplets, time stood still. We couldn't believe it. We also presumed she would have difficulties becoming pregnant. To realize triplets... Oh my God.!!! (we only wanted one!!!, someday) We were not ready for this!!!

The doctor mentioned "selective reduction" to us while showing concern about my wife and worrying about the difficult pregnancy she would go through. I initially wanted to "selectively reduce" him for suggesting such a thing. We never considered the "procedure".

Anyway, long story short, my wife ended up having a textbook pregnancy, delivered all three at 36 1/2 weeks (each weighed over 5 lbs at birth) and she never went on bedrest. They all came home from the hospital three days later and our lives have changed like no one could believe. Single income, former-military with no college degree and now an assumed stay-at-home Mom forever. How would we manage?

Looking at pictures, I get sick to my stomach when I think of who would've been "reduced". Life without anyone of them is unimaginable. Life starts with kids and God will provide.

I know that when this lady grows up, like most liberals do, she'll realize what she has done, and it WILL truely haunt her forever.

May she find Christ, and may He have mercy on her and all those she has infected while living this selfish, immoral lifestyle.


33 posted on 07/19/2004 8:05:49 PM PDT by gatopfs
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To: CMS1

She's not blind - she knows EXACTLY what she has done.

Pray for her, yes - sure, fine. But that doesn't mean you can't feel anger, revulsion, or pity for her son and his two siblings that were murdered.


34 posted on 07/20/2004 6:50:25 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder (Sarcasm? That's humor lost on anyone but yourself.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Maybe we should all chip in and buy her some Mayo?


35 posted on 07/20/2004 6:56:14 AM PDT by DesignerChick
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To: InvisibleChurch
What has happened to us?

This is one of the most macrbe things I have ever read. It's not like squeezing a pimple!

Some quotes from this person:

"I...asked the doctor: ''Is it possible to get rid of one of them? Or two of them?'' The obstetrician wasn't an expert in selective reduction, but she knew that with a shot of potassium chloride you could eliminate one or more."

"This is why they say it's the woman's choice, because you think I could just carry triplets. That's easy for you to say, but I'd have to give up my life."

My hopes are that this woman reconciles herself to Christ. Her human nature will, in time cause her great anguish in regards to this, because I would venture to say that eventually, when she sees the one child that has grown up and reached maturity, this woman will remember what she did to her two other children.

36 posted on 07/21/2004 11:00:04 AM PDT by Fury
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